eBay bidding service

PoisonAce · Nov 6, 2015

NOT OFFERING SERVICE, talk of idea solely!
This is not shill bidding, simply a way to stimulate your listings popularity and maybe have a reserve via the bid I create.

$2.50 a bid plus 15 percent of the price of its over 10 dollars.

this is not shill bidding, bids can only be made with this idea if it's in the first hour of the auction, hence its not really jeapordizing the fairness of the final moments.

Use this to create duplicate listings, since you have a bidder.

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toml3030 · Nov 6, 2015

This is VERY definition of shill bidding, dude.

"Shill bidding happens when anyoneâ€”including family, friends, roommates, employees, or online connectionsâ€”bids on an item with the intent to artificially increase its price or desirability. In addition, members cannot bid on or buy items in order to artificially increase a seller's Feedback or to improve the item's search standing. "

Deleted member 720373 · Nov 6, 2015

toml3030 said:
This is VERY definition of shill bidding, dude.

"Shill bidding happens when anyoneâ€”including family, friends, roommates, employees, or online connectionsâ€”bids on an item with the intent to artificially increase its price or desirability. In addition, members cannot bid on or buy items in order to artificially increase a seller's Feedback or to improve the item's search standing. "

^^^THIS^^^ plus the fact you have not met the requirements to offer a service here even though your service would be considered unacceptable.

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alemar · Nov 6, 2015

PoisonAce said:
$2.50 a bid plus 15 percent of the price of its over 10 dollars.

Is it not too expensive indeed for just making a bid? Anyone asked your service at those prices actually?

Duffers5000 · Nov 6, 2015

$2.50 a bid + 15% of the sale price ? Theres a line between optimistic and delusional that you have well cleared.

toml3030 · Nov 6, 2015

alemar said:
Is it not too expensive indeed for just making a bid? Anyone asked your service at those prices actually?

That's another thing. 15% of final value? I mean you want even a bigger cut than eBay for shill bidding?

Sythix · Nov 6, 2015

Lol.. "this is not shill bidding". Get out of here dude.

PoisonAce · Nov 6, 2015

Alright, let me clear some things up, yea it's not optimally legitimate in terms of rules and regulations, but is it fraudulent? I think this is an interesting thread... And no not 15% of final value fee. 15% of bid. Thanks for the feedback.

toml3030 · Nov 6, 2015

PoisonAce said:
Alright, let me clear some things up, yea it's not optimally legitimate in terms of rules and regulations, but is it fraudulent?

Yes, according to eBay rules, no matter how many times you repeat that this is not shill bidding.

PoisonAce said:
I think this is an interesting thread... And no not 15% of final value fee. 15% of bid. Thanks for the feedback.

And the reason people will pay that when they can buy eBay bids on fiverr for less than $1 each is because?

iulianalex · Nov 6, 2015

I give you 5 cents

PoisonAce · Nov 6, 2015

Toml3030 are you backing me up saying this isn't really shill bidding? So fiverr offers it? ill have to check that out and maybe lower the prices... I want to have a website at some point not even messing around. It may be around what you would pay for a reserve on eBay or a lot less. And you can duplicate list after.

toml3030 · Nov 6, 2015

PoisonAce said:
Toml3030 are you backing me up saying this isn't really shill bidding? So fiverr offers it?

No, I'm saying you're pretty delusional, like all those people who fall for this sort of stuff thinking that taking shortcuts on eBay won't come back to bite them in the butt.

nnahlee · Nov 6, 2015

Don't do this ebay will ban your account

HoNeYBiRD · Nov 6, 2015

PoisonAce said:
Toml3030 are you backing me up saying this isn't really shill bidding? So fiverr offers it? ill have to check that out and maybe lower the prices... I want to have a website at some point not even messing around. It may be around what you would pay for a reserve on eBay or a lot less. And you can duplicate list after.

fiverr doesn't offer shit lol, the sellers do, but they did offer fake Amazon reviews too not too long ago

, shill bidding - even if you think, your offering is different, which is not - is against ebay's TOS, hence it's against fiverr's TOS too and it isn't more legal than offering fake Amazon reviews

besides that offering your services here is against the rules, what if you win the item? even if an item received a bid, it's not a certainty that it will sell and you can't always just retract your bid, ebay would whoop your ass and you can't just always get a refund from the sellers either, that would look suspicious af too

PoisonAce · Nov 6, 2015

This would be done on multiple system accounts, Any item won wouldn't need to be payed for. eBay would have to refund the listing and final value fees to the seller. With the right prices I think I could make a good website. I'll make the domain in the next couple days or weeks, wich will take payment.

toml3030 · Nov 6, 2015

PoisonAce said:
This would be done on multiple system accounts, Any item won wouldn't need to be payed for. eBay would have to refund the listing and final value fees to the seller. With the right prices I think I could make a good website. I'll make the domain in the next couple days or weeks, wich will take payment.

So eBay starts cancelling account with history of non payment, and they start cancelling your buyer's accounts for shill bidding because they notice a history of shill bidding. Woopie....

DixieMarketing · Nov 6, 2015

Yeah you need to find a different method to make some money

PoisonAce · Nov 6, 2015

How much does an eBay account cost? Free. You are the weekest link. Goodbye.
You actually think that people wouldn't pay if they could evade the duplicate listing policy, wich states if your listing has one bid you can list duplicates.

toml3030 · Nov 6, 2015

PoisonAce said:
How much does an eBay account cost? Free.

So if eBay account is free, why would anyone pay you for this service rather than making free accounts themselves and shill bidding on their own accounts? It's not like you've reinvented the wheel or anything...

PoisonAce said:
You are the weekest link. Goodbye.

I'm moving $40K+ a month of product on eBay, you're here trying to brainstorm how to make a couple of bucks. Who's the weakest link here?

PoisonAce said:
You actually think that people wouldn't pay if they could evade the duplicate listing policy, wich states if your listing has one bid you can list duplicates.

NO. You have no market for this. No one really needs to avoid the duplicate listing policy, because you can change price by 1 cent or listing duration and it counts as a separate listing.

For example. I have something that is $49.99, I can list it at 49.99, 49.98, 49.97, 49.96, 49.95, 49.94, 49.93, 49.92, 49.91, 49.90 and list it as 5 day, 7 day, 10 day, 30 day fixed, GTC fixed and basically list the same item 50 times.

Nobody is going to pay you for this. Don't waste your time.

PoisonAce · Nov 6, 2015

Not for auctions though and you can get caught for doing that. If you making so much money on eBay I would try to save that account with any measures. That's a reason someone may be down to try this. It will never be traced back to them.

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