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Duplicate content from a dead site - what does google think?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by puhvc, Feb 28, 2015.

  1. puhvc

    puhvc Newbie

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    In my niche, a competitors site (which ranked super well) was shut down. Dont know the reason but its now parking on an empty server.

    I used web archives to copy everything from the site. If I use this content on my money site, does google know my content is duplicate? And if the answer is yes, does it matter as im the only domain with the content?

    What happens if the old site comes back up? Is my copied content considered original or does google keep crawl histories (i would guess so but for days, weeks or years?).

    the other guys website has been down for about a week now.

    thanks for help!
     
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    Star Anise Registered Member

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    if the content is indexed right now and you can search it on Google then it will be marked as duplicate. if it isn't indexed, you might be able to use it. I'm not sure if Google keeps crawl histories.
     
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    It would work if the other site is not indexed right now.If you can Spin the old content ,that is a plus.
     
  4. Pablo Picasso

    Pablo Picasso Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    In case if it isn't indexed, then manually spin the content to a readable format and post them in your site. Good to go.
     
  5. GodsOwnWriter

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    Hey man.. that would be stealing someone's content. I suggest you pick the articles up and have a writer rewrite them, but dont just take all his content. Would you like it if you had to shutdown your website for a few days due to some reasons and when you came back, all your work was stolen?

    If you are going to treat others like that, might aswell consider what you would do if the same happened with you.
     
  6. TeKn1qu3z

    TeKn1qu3z Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    If the older site comes back, then you have to remove the content from them as they own copyright of that content. The archive site purely shows the content belongs to the original author.
     
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    Would definitely be duplicate IMO. I've seen no evidence that Google forgets content from old sites.
     
  8. fc-dh

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    Again, n00bs that obviously know nothing about SEO are giving advice (well i mean opinion based on their favorite Guru), Stop it!

    This is not the warriorforum were you can just repeat what your favorite guru told you.

    @OP it is save to use that content mate, don't let these n00bs tell you any different, there is no such thing as a duplicate content penalty, i have tested this myth thoroughly and and i can tell you that you can use, rank and bank on that content.
     
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  9. kbklash

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    Yep.Tell him to do that.
    OP,this where you will end up,IMHO

    Duplicate-Content-Warning-by-Google-Search.jpg
     
  10. WritersBlok

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    Be careful that you don't end up with a copyright infringement suit. Private registration for a domain name won't protect you, they'll go to your host and get your real information from your method of payment.
     
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    The people that end up there are people that have no backlinks pointing to their content, like i sad it is all about backlinks, the ranking factor of content isn't as high as you people might think, don't take my word for it just test it out yourself.

    Here is a simple test you can do, find yourself a expired domain with TF +20 in any subject, build a site and post only duplicate content that is indexed by google, it would be better for the test if the content is indexed multiple times, when you are done building that website point a 100 real PBN links to the site, you can add some tiered linkbuilding and some 301 with SAPE and wait a view weeks

    I am willing to bet a lot of money that your site will get a good amount of traffic and top rankings with dup content only, i have done this test a view times and it never failed me once, so maybe you should do some testing before you claim to know where sites end up when using duplicate content.

    And again just to get this point across: don't take my word for it, test it yourself, i have given you a blueprint that worked for me and it should work for you to, SEO isn't rocket science, it is just high quality backlinks, end of story.
     
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    Of course there are many sites that have crappy content, but outrank all those sites who have excellent and unique contents.Usage of some good links will surely get some good result.But that's not all as my experience.It can give you an initial boost.But ,in the long run,it has to fall down.As it is not carrying the weight of authenticity.I say ,Content is still king. The most unique and engaging your content is,the more exposure you get on SE.Google is smart.VERY smart.Off page SEO generate a good amount of traffic,for organic traffic,you certainly need a good ON page seo strategy.

    Just think,why the all the webmasters everywhere(even here on freebies/BST) asking guest bloggers to come with unique posts.Because the more you get hit,the more you know it.

    Once you do your ON page factors correct,i bet with minimum required backlinks you can rank among others on the top.
     
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    I have lead gen sites on .info domains with 98% duplicate content, the only difference in the content is the city name these site are running for almost 7 years now, they gave stood true all the panda's updates. Why? because they have a solid backlink profile that is the only reason why, duplicate content is not an issue, not even on the same .info domains.

    Content is only king for your visitors not for SEO, backlinks are king queen and God in SEO

    Because (like you) these "webmasters" are brainwashed by these so called SEO bloggers, the mouthpieces of Google like MOZ, Searchengineland and SEOrountable, if you do the tests you'll see that the whole myth is easy to bust, onpage factors or a small percentage of the ranking factor compared with off site ranking factors aka backlinks.

    You can rank shitty duplicated content with good backlinks and keep your rankings, you can't rank "great content" with shitty backlinks, that will take you nowhere.

    Content is NOT king!
     
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    Nothing to worry about, I have such a website myself. Just make sure the old website is entirely deindexed.
     
  15. puhvc

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    Thanks for the comments guys! Lots of good info.
    What I'm gonna do is:
    1. Run some tests with my other sites how duplicate content affects google.
    2. Wait for the competitors site to deindex
    3. While waiting, spin the most important content
     
  16. kushalshah

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    Try pasting a part of the content in Google, if your competitor shows up, you just cant use it but if nothing shows up, BOOOOOM! you've hit the jackpot. Google deindex dead websites and even if that website shows up again, you will be considered the owner of the content. However, 50% risk is involved in this but I'd still recommend you to take it.
     
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    Actually, it's a horror story used by Google to do business. Google has a few words of our research and the results are inversely proportional.

    If you want to succeed, follow your heart. Test, test and test. You will find loopholes.

    Does google help when you hard?
    The answer is not at all
     
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    If the content is not indexed in Google, you can use it on your site. I have been doing it myself for more than a year now and have never had problems with it.
     
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    Just make sure it is not indexed anywhere, works like a charm, always! ;) Tested many times by myself!
     
  20. Scorpion2

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    WHy not just spin the contant so you dont have to worry in the back of your mind if at some point you will get punished for copying the article.