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  1. DebbieSprules

    DebbieSprules Senior Member

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    According to the makers of articl e b ot dupe content is a myth...

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    Duplicate content is a myth except when you're duplicating it within the same domain. If that were not the case, even RSS Feeds would be penalized and obviously they're not :)

    Incidently, the next version will allow you to enter your spun articles using Jet Spinner Syntax {word1|word2|word3} so that you can vary them.
     
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    well ... thing is ... you have limited number of char's to create text .... ( words / phrases ... ) so '' unique '' in true sense of the word it's something not-real , variation's of same text / phrase yes can be ... '' using other words '' to say same thing ... the myth come from here !

    The truth it's somewhere at the middle , and the fact it's let's face it we are humans and we are trying to '' make machines '' which can serve us ( * or others ) what we need , when we are speaking about unique content for search engines options become '' endless '' because we have imagination and we can make diverse combination's of words and content which can trick the engines ...
     
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    Google obviously likes fresh content.

    The value for search engine users would be dramatically reduced if there was no dupe content penalty.

    Imagine searching for "car engine advice" and reading the same article 10 times on the first page?
     
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    Now that you mention it, this has happened to me a few times...and it is indeed quite annoying
     
  5. Micallef

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    Why do we spin our articles if there is no ranking restruction on dupe content? Come on....

    As I keep saying on threads like these, I have personally experienced the duplicate content penalty on one of my sites, proof being that when I apply the "&filter=0" string, my site ranks again.
     
  6. cuteserra

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    yes , duplicate content is a myth .
    i personally had a website , with 700 dupe pages and it used to still make 1$ a day , after my host just ran away taking my money .
    voidstone.com are scammers.
     
  7. Yukinari84

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    This comes up all the time.

    Getting some sort of big penalty from Google for duplicate is a myth. The only time you have to worry about duplicate content is if you are posting it on the same site. You DO NOT want to have duplicate content on the same site, especially if it's your own domain.

    But if you are going to post duplicate content across a bunch of article directories and web 2.0 sites, then you have nothing to worry about.

    With that said, Google does love fresh content. So using duplicate content across many sites can get you lots of good rankings very fast, those rankings can fall after a little while.
     
  8. Micallef

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    So, Yukinari - you're saying that I wasted my time spinning 400 articles for my 30+ linkwheels, and that I would have had approximately the same success I'm enjoying now if I had just stuck word for word duplicates onto my web 2.0 properties?
     
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    wakkaoaka BANNED BANNED

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    http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&q=howies+apprentice&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=f&oq= Who needs content when you can have a forwarded/masked domain ranked 1 out of 3mil? :p Yes dupe content is a myth, all you need unique content for is article directories.
     
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    I've asked this a while ago and never really got an answer - what is the smallest "unit" of duplicate content that Google is looking for? Is Google looking for duplicate sentences, paragraphs or documents?

    I take 10 ezine articles about the same topic, each has 10 sentences.

    I randomize each sentence and make 10 new articles, each containing only 1 sentence from each of the original articles. (yes, it would read strange, but I've read crap on there that seems to mimic this.)

    Each of my articles is unique to itself, but each SENTENCE is not unique on the internet. What would Google think of this?

    Note: I HAVE created articles this way, and if you pick a non-technical topic, you'll be surprised at how well they read. They certainly don't look spun because the wording in each sentence makes perfect sense, just the article itself is kinda meandering. Again, I've read plenty of shit out there that reads pretty similar.
     
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    What if you outrank the site with the original content? For example they have 100 backlinks and I have 100,000?
     
  13. MDSOperandi

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    "What if you outrank the site with the original content? For example they have 100 backlinks and I have 100,000?"
    At that ratio you would surely outrank the original. However, obviously PageRank and link quality would come into play as well.

    Regards
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    Backlinks has nothing to do with it. Google knows which version of the content was indexed first. Any other versions of the content indexed later than the original would be considered duplicate.
     
  15. Yukinari84

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    Not saying you would have the same success. I blatantly said that using duplicate content across many different web 2.0 properties and article directories will be for quick hits. If you did this all the time, of course your rankings will fall.

    Like I said, Google likes fresh content. Even more so now with their upcoming launch of Caffeine. Google is known for giving the most up-to-date and relevant info to its searchers, and they want to keep it that way.

    With that said, I constantly post the same content across multiple web 2.0 sites/article directories and get multiple rankings for it. But again, this is a quick-hit strategy for me. If I'm going for a long-term promotion, of course I will want to use fresh or spun content more and more.

    But I won't spend hours spinning articles when I don't even know if a product/market will sell for sure. I will test it out, see if it sells, and then scale up from there.
     
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    SEO is a dirty game, you just have to test what works better
     
  17. Black_Hat_freak

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    One of my site containing only duplicate content is on the first page of Google.
     
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    I don't think its a myth at all and I tested it.

    I made a hubpage for an extremely non competitive keyword phrase.
    I was #1 on the first page for the phrase. I created a second hub with the exact same content, pictures, titles, everything. I wasn't able to be found at all in the top 10 pages (I stopped looking at that point lol). I gave it a couple days to make sure that it was indeed crawled.

    Couple days later I deleted the first hub but google still had it cached for about a week because I could still search for it and find it.

    About a week later BAM. 1st hub was gone from google and the second one was #4 on the first page.

    Morale of the story: Test it yourself. There are way too many myths and stories out there about what does and doesnt work.
     
  19. DebbieSprules

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    This quote from the makers of article b0t :

    [FONT=&quot]The whole duplicate content thing only applies to content duplicated on the same domain. The reason people spin articles is to mainly target different keywords in the same article to obtain as much diverse anchor text as they can. The other reason they do it is because they "Think" they're getting one over on Google, although no article spinner yet has been able to beat out Googles LSA routines[/FONT]
     
  20. BigBlue

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    well theres' your prob, you made the same content on the same site.