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Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by harshareddy, Apr 24, 2014.

  1. harshareddy

    harshareddy Power Member Premium Member

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    I decided to take this thread down.
     
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  2. auxiliarus

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    What the fuck this I just read?
    No offence.
    Why did you put up that your from Russia if your from India anyway?
    I kind of lost it on this line -
    Your cousin gets paid to marry someone else who is much prettier than your cousin?
     
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    Nothing new. All the "banias" are known to strike a wedding deal with a fixed amount. In India even poor worker has to atleast give a motorcycle nowadays to get done with marriage of daughter. Such is the wedding business in India.
     
  4. harshareddy

    harshareddy Power Member Premium Member

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    Location Means when i live not where im from:) so its russia
     
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  5. auxiliarus

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    Do you speak Russian? It seems your English isn't quite good, and without it there is not even a small chance you can speak to someone?
     
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    Ohh, so this is what he is talking about.
    Yeah, I get it now.
     
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    Souljerr Regular Member

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    What he is saying is that in India, especially in the region where he is from, there has been an increase in the exchange of amount of money being paid from the brides parents to a groom to marry their daughter.

    A man can be paid anywhere from $400,000 - $600,000 by the brides parents if he is an American citizen because they want their daughters to receive American Visas and live in America.

    The majority of families spending this amount of money are those of that have either profited massively from the Real Estate boom or they are Government Officials.
     
  8. IAmNotLegend

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    Controversial topic. It has got nothing to do with IM.

    Though ultimately, the money is going to be spent by the girl for shopping and other things.
     
  9. BuildMoreLinks

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    Well nothing is going to change in India, set an example yourself by not accepting dowry.

    Now let me be honest with you here, when I got married I refused to take dowry. My wife and my inlaws respect me a lot for that.
     
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    controversial indeed. especially when the girls are murdered for non-payment of funds. :(
     
  11. imserious

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    Even though this is a controversial topic. there are always two sides to the story.

    Dowry is a traditional things. It has been happening for thousands of years and it will keep happening. It is known as Istri-Dhan or "Woman's Treasure.

    Dowry is illegal and there is a very strong law against it. Funny thing is it is one of the most abused laws in India.
    If there is any fight between husband and wife, wife can use this act to send the husband to jail. There is no bail in this case.
    If wife has an extramarital affair, husband has to keep quiet as this law can be used against the husband. The system has no protection built in for males.

    Another aspect of this dowry system is that 99% of the time, a girl foes not get any property from her parents after they pass away.
    This is a tradition. There is a law wherein girls have equal rights to boys and they can claim their part of the property but it is seldom used by girls.
    The whole property usually goes to the brother(s). This is also the reason for high female foeticide in India.
    This is the main reason a girl is expected to bring property into the family as the groom family is also expected to pay dowry when they marry off their own girl.

    Just like any other problem, money/greed is the root cause here.

    Anways, just typed this put things in perspective. It has become a tradition these days to
    create ruckus on the smallest things happening in India ( not on BHW but on internet in general )
    but without presenting both sides of the story.

    Inida has a lot of traditions. Indian culture is very different. There are both good and bad things as are there in all the cultures.
     
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    Tell me more about laws in Asia, never heard of such thing.
    PS : I come from it!
     
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    People can shock horror etc about other cultures, but it happens in the west also, we are just not so open about it.

    For example tradition dictates that when a couple agree to marry, the groom buys the bride an engagement ring. This is normally three or four times the monthly salary of the groom. The greater the value the more prospects. (Now this tradition is falling by the wayside but it still happens)

    Laws now consider the woman's financial future in the case of a relationship breakdown. In the past however it the sale of this jewellery which secured the bride financially.
     
  14. imserious

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    India is a part of Asia. The traditions and culture vary a lot across the countries.

    Well you can google the latest Anti - Rape law popularly known as Nirbhaya Law in India.

    Under this law, a guy can be sent to jail even if you are just looking at her.
    This law is so strong that a woman can send a man to jail for any reason.
    Recently a case was filed, wherein a woman said that she was raped 11 years ago.
    Actually she was having an affair, Her current husband forced here to file the false case.

    Recently, it was disclosed that over 800 of the 1500 rape cases filed in Delhi,
    based on the latest Anti rape law, last year were frivolous.
    In none of the frivolous cases, the girl making the allegation
    was sent to jail or had to face any consequence.
    Most of the cases were filed when there was a breakup
    or girl just wanted to teach a lesson to the guy.

    The accused guys in these cases, lost their jobs, their social standing,
    there families suffered and they received no compensation.

    Its not that all the women have suddenly turn against men.
    There is a huge majority of women who are tormented on a daily basis
    and need these strong laws. But more often than not, these laws end
    up being abused by women who take advantage of the system.



     
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    and in the west they've dropped the word "obey" from the wedding vows. and some girls don't take their husband's last name, or they just hyphenate it.
     
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    Dowry isn't an exclusive Indian tradition. It was also the norm in Europe up to the 18th century and still survives today in some areas.

    Dowry made sense in older times in strongly hierarchical societies based on agriculture. As societies move more and more into their post-industrial stages, the toolset of the old ages tends to disappear as it no longer holds any real meaning.