Doorway Pages?

It is really weird cus i do almost the exact some thing, what kind of redirection are you using?

1) Well more just look a bit to spammy, the good old days of keyword stuffing, i even use less now, like 2/3 tags, but i am not seeing huge differences to be hionest.

2) i divide the cities in the states and create different subdomains like ohio.findadentist.com or al.findingtcheaplaptops.com, things like that, mostly because my server craps out after a long haul of page building.
 
It is really weird cus i do almost the exact some thing, what kind of redirection are you using?

1) Well more just look a bit to spammy, the good old days of keyword stuffing, i even use less now, like 2/3 tags, but i am not seeing huge differences to be hionest.

2) don't think i'm allowed to post urls

I redirect about 50% of the time, using WPCloaker. I think my content just isn't unique enough, so I'm split testing a few different approaches to try to fix the problem.

1. I think you can get away with around 15-20 and stick long term. I track a few networks of SS sites, and I've seen one guy keep his entire network live for quite a while with #s like this. No idea if he does better traffic wise with this approach. People who go way overboard seem to be whacked.

2. I will test this out, along with splitting things up across multiple domains.
 
Go for pumper sites instead of doorway pages, unless you have a different purpose in mind.
 
I redirect about 50% of the time, using WPCloaker. I think my content just isn't unique enough, so I'm split testing a few different approaches to try to fix the problem.

1. I think you can get away with around 15-20 and stick long term. I track a few networks of SS sites, and I've seen one guy keep his entire network live for quite a while with #s like this. No idea if he does better traffic wise with this approach. People who go way overboard seem to be whacked.

2. I will test this out, along with splitting things up across multiple domains.


Let me know how it goes...
 
Hey Dave,
this thread turned from OP Gecko101 to OP fc-dh :D, you should open another one just for doorway-cloaking infos! :D

So me too now I have a question for you or anybody is using doorways.

What's the advantage to use a cloaking plugin to redirect the traffic to the same page?

I have many sites with doorway pages, some are covering different US states or cities with the same content as you have well explained, some other are covering different long tail keywords of the same topic. But I prefer to put my CPA ads in every page, instead redirecting the traffic to another page.

So, why do you redirect the traffic? There is no difference of getting the visitors click on one page or another.

Thanks
 
Hey Dave,
this thread turned from OP Gecko101 to OP fc-dh :D, you should open another one just for doorway-cloaking infos! :D

So me too now I have a question for you or anybody is using doorways.

What's the advantage to use a cloaking plugin to redirect the traffic to the same page?

I have many sites with doorway pages, some are covering different US states or cities with the same content as you have well explained, some other are covering different long tail keywords of the same topic. But I prefer to put my CPA ads in every page, instead redirecting the traffic to another page.

So, why do you redirect the traffic? There is no difference of getting the visitors click on one page or another.

Thanks

A few benefits:

1. You only need to manage 1 landing page instead of many

2. You can use lower quality content on the pages that you'll redirect (no one's gonna read it)

3. A lot of CPA ads leave a footprint, which you can largely eliminate if you're redirecting instead of putting the ads on all those pages
 
A few benefits:

1. You only need to manage 1 landing page instead of many

2. You can use lower quality content on the pages that you'll redirect (no one's gonna read it)

3. A lot of CPA ads leave a footprint, which you can largely eliminate if you're redirecting instead of putting the ads on all those pages

I could not have said it better myself, thank you for taking the time :)
 
Hi Dave,
Quick question for you...Do you noindex your category pages in Wordpress on your dooway page sites? I currently have mine as noindex. Just wondering if you're seeing your results with noindex or index on those.

Thanks.
 
Hey fc-dh
Very good info, thanks for sharing.
I do have a question if you don't mind. Are you targeting google.nl or google.com?
Thanks
 
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hi Dave
I don't know more about doorway pages,i have some ideals of it.Can you tell me which software is the best or what can i do to generate more sells?PM me please.
 
Why are you n00bs on a BLACKHAT FORUM!?!?!?!

[in a whinny voice of a three year old] Ohw the great whitehat mouthpieces of Google told me that Google updated their allllgooooooo, and, and, and you cannooooottttt make doorwaypages any mooooohhooooore, really i have read that somewhere and now i am parroting this truth to you [/ a whinny voice of a three year old]

F*ck what do i hate mindless parroting n00bs that spew their nonsense like it is fact, i am betting everything i have that you n00bs never done a test in your lives when it comes to what you call doorway pages. You n00bs don't belong on a blackhatforum, end of story.

@OP at the time of writing iu still make use and money with doorway pages, i use a plugin called serp shaker and a cloaker plugin, right now i am making a killing with a dentist CPA and DOORWAYPAGES!!!!! You know those pages where scaryhat n00bs will tell you that google doesn't rank them. Sure my shit could get banned eventually but for now i am banking with this site since Jun.

This is how i do it.

I build doorwaypages for local lead pages or product pages (TIP: don't use any redirects with amazon, they don't really like that), here is how i set it up my average BH site(stand for blackhat)

I have a list of longtail keywords often it is product +city + state, this could be any product, it doesn't have to be a a local business, you can make a killing with local keywords and CPA, amazon or affiliate programs.

Then i write a post of about 2000/2500 words and i spin that manually so the output is readable, it doesn't have to be great or anything just readable, nobody is going to read it anyway (at least not with my method) :)

In the content i add images and videos, i spin the images and videos so it looks like different images and videos, if that makes any sense, like {http://video-url1.com|http://video-url2.com|http://video-url3.com|http://video-url4.com} and for images {http://imageurl1.com|http://imageurl2.com|http://imageurl3.com|http://imageurl4.com}

Next i add my keywords in the content (and of course in the image tags and stuff), on average i ad my keyword once every 200/250 words, some scaryhats will say that this is way to much, fuck them, they don't know shit.

I also add 6 tags, and yes i let Google index them too, i don't give a fuck about dup content, as i know out of experience (and what some guru told me) that these tags van bring in heaps of extra traffic especially when you're longtailing.

When that is all done i let serp shaker run and it will create the website, on average i will build sites between 500 and 5000 pages, all doorway pages.

When the site is done i run it through Google webmaster tools, fetch a view categories and delete the website from GWT when these categories are indexed.

Now what i do is setup WPcloaker to redirect the traffic anywere i want, and that is how i still make money with my lead generation business, with my amazon business, with my ticket business and with my CPA business (well the last one is more a hobby then a business but you get the point) If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask.

TIP: if you really want to make a bank, spend some money on a strong domain, a good TF 25 with a legit backlink profile can do wonders for your ranking, but even a TF 15 will give you the boost you need

And for you n00bs, please go back to the warrior forum, or stay in the whitehat section, you have no business spewing your uninformed opinion in the blackhat section, leave that to the people who actually know something

Thank you

Dave

Holy crap dude. Love the attitude, and the information is powerful. Way to smack those newbies around and get them invested in the real dark side of this shit. This is what makes BHW what it is!
 
Hello buddy!
I want to inform you about an interesting information about doorway pages.
Google has updated the doorway pages algorithm page with huge information. You can more details on that page as well.

Anyone else just plain not understand what this guy is on about?

Google's page on "Doorway Pages" is full of reasons not to do it, rather than tips on how to do it.

Anyway, nothing wrong with doorways pages, especially in local SEO where you need to drive leads to a local business.

FC-DH is bang on the money anyway, nothing more I can possibly add to his perfect post!
 
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