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Don't Order from KIMI... Worst Service Provider.. False Promises.. Liar..

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  1. mohammedsuhaib

    mohammedsuhaib Junior Member

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    Hello Guys,

    I ordered Infinite SEO (difficult competition) Package from KIMI on 2nd of May 2013 and since then all I have got from him is false promises, lies and excuses.

    Here is the service thread -
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...e-backlinks-unique-content-397-497-597-a.html

    I gave him my keyword (which is like "X and Y in CITY") and he told me to order HIGH Competition Keyword and give me $50 discount and I ordered a High Competition Package on 2nd of May for $547. So he claims in his Infinite SEO Package it is 2 months of link building ("STEADY LINK GROWTH OF MINIMUM 2 MONTHS")..

    Problem 1

    I ordered on 2nd May and I didnt hear back from him. On May 6, I pinged him on skype if there was any update on my order and he responded that I was scheduled to receive basecamp details that day which I didnt receive.

    On May 8 he asked me for my email address to send basecamp details which I provided him. He also told me, "[08/05/2013 03:56:51] Kimi: but I wanted to ask you something - as I see you have some major flaws in the on-page SEO and I'm willing to do it as a bonus
    [08/05/2013 03:56:55] Kimi: if you could leave me a small review"

    I agreed for it and provided him with WPlogin, FTP, hosting login info on May 8 but he didn't do any Onpage SEO for several days to follow. So then I thought maybe I should leave a review before and I left a review in his thread on May 17 about his offering of on-page SEO but to date he hasn't done any On-page SEO.


    Here is his response -
    False Guarantee 1 - as it was never adhered to

    Note 1
    Once I got the basecamp details I noticed that linkbuilding was scheduled to start from May 24 and ending on July 3. I asked him if the campaign can be delivered earlier but he told me it can be risky and I agreed with his devised schedule.
    Problem 2
    First set of link building deadline missed which was scheduled by him on May 24 and I didnt hear from him anything about my project. So I decided to contact him -

    Here is the PM I sent him on May 28

    "Hello Kimi,

    I would request you to kindly provide update on my project. Last time you informed that you will be providing reports in basecamp but I am not seeing any update in it. Also the onpage seo to my little knowledge is also not attended to.

    To be honest, I am getting a bit impatient now."


    Only after this PM was the first set of link building done.
    So this was all I got from him till date. I have got 5 Web 2.0 and 15 Social Bookmarks till date. The site was nowhere in Google when I ordered and it ranked nowhere as on date. Ahrefs and MajesticSEO shows 1 backlink.

    Second set of link building was schedule for June 6, 2013 which is not completed as on date. I waited and waited and waited but I didnt hear from Kimi. By this time I was really unhappy and pissed and I decided to write him a PM. Here it is -

    "Kimi,

    I am really not happy!! I planned to write this review in InfiniteSEO thread but it is closed.

    How many times are you going to give false promises. Never ever till now have you fulfilled on your words. I am extremely disappointed by your service so far. Just delays and excuses so far. Many a times you have given guarantees but not fulfilled what you said.

    I don't see any Onpage SEO done for which you approached me and asked me to do a review in exchange of Onpage SEO, in which i did my part but you never did.

    I paid you $547 on May 2, 2013. Forty days have passed since then and what I have received so far are 5 Web 2.0 and 15 social bookmarks. Yesterday I check indexing of those and only 2 Web 2.0 are indexed in Google and no social bookmark is indexed. Ahrefs and MajesticSeo shows 2 backlinks.

    This is really disappointing.

    I hereby request refund for my payment as you have never delivered on the reflected date in Basecamp SEO which was devised purely by yourself. I even asked you to do the campaign a bit quicker but it was you asked to do it slowly and even on your devised schedule you are not delivering.

    2 backlinks in 40 days? So much for InfiniteSEO, what I have experienced so far is InfiniteDelay and Hollow Promises.

    Please refund my payment so that I can order SEO services from other BSTs.

    Thanks and Regards,

    Mohammed Suhaib"

    and he responded back

    "Mohammed,

    If you would like to give me a chance to talk with you on Skype would be great. Even if you want a refund I want to talk with you on Skype before that if you want. I will appreciate that.

    I will be on Skype in 3 hours from now.

    Thanks"


    So we had a long chat on skype -

    The main thing to notice here is that he didnt show intent to refund and just kept giving excuses.
    So we both agreed on a date that by 22nd June the Project will be finished or otherwise he will refund me.

    Time passes and June 22nd is also missed btw he sent he two emails but never sent me any report.

    See here -
    See when I say that I will create a shitlist as I was left with no other option, I can get hang of him at SKYPE -
    POINT TO NOTE -
    He is not discussing about my email where I said REFUND MONEY but he is discussing about a thread where I applied as a prospective VA (which I did to know what was going on behind the scenes) and telling me all his bullshit problems. The 3 Web 2.0s he is referring to above, only 1 is a new web 2.0 and 2 of them are from first set of 5 web 2.0 already delivered. Now he also confessed here that 25 web 2.0 are created (to be honest I dont believe in him anymore).

    Also to note he is not able to deliver my project but then he started a new thread 'Black Hat Infinity' while doesnt have manpower to handle client projects. He is hiring VAs here while Clients like keeps on waiting.

    He is also confessing that only 25 web 2.0 are created whereas in his email of 23rd June, he confirmed all web 2.0 and social bookmarks was completed (and i knew they weren't because i was not provided with any report). This proves He is a LIAR.

    He even claimed on 25th June that Video submission was completed and that he will do PDF submission on the same day (which is again a BLATANT LIE).


    Now again I am waiting for KIMI's response for past 4 days but I didn't hear anything from him.

    So, I call on BHW Community to avoid ordering any service from such a Liar, Carefree, Insensitive Seller. He doesn't give a damn about his customers.

    Now, some may say I should wait and resolve this with him in private as he is a Respected Guy here at BHW but I ask you guys, how long can and should I try and resolve this with him. I could wait a week, he doesn't get back to me and then I write a email to him. He again give excuses and this goes on and on and on.

    For such people just his stats will speak for themselves -

    Originally I was intended for get these backlinks by 3 July (as per Kimi's schedule) but due to missed deadlines, we both agreed to complete the entire project by 22nd June.

    Tier 1 links only (not listing Tier-2)
    Web 2.0 - 60 (5 delivered)
    Social Bookmarking - 100 (15 delivered)
    Private Network Guest Posts - 55 (0 delivered)
    Social Media Profiles - 50 (0 delivered)
    Video Submission - 10 (0 delivered)
    PDF, DOC, PPS Sharing - 15(0 delivered)

    Social Signal (0 delivered so far)
    Delicious - 20
    Stumbles - 15
    Folkd - 10
    Pins - 40
    Re-tweets - 60
    Facebook Like - 50
    Google +1 - 40

    I just cannot wait even for a single day anymore as nowhere is it my fault that the seller is not able to on deliver time and that even it is I who have to contact him everytime for delays.

    I ask KIMI to refund my money Immediately and I also request Moderators to have a look and decide whether such sellers should be allowed to operate at BHW.
     
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  2. Kimi

    Kimi BANNED BANNED

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    Already refunded $400 this morning.

    Asked a week to get the $150 to refund the rest, refunding $400 today was the best I could do and I did it.

    Story & exact situation is known by the clients that are in delay with the orders and the exact situation will be known only by staff if needed.

    Thanks jazzc for letting me know about this. Really great help!

    Thanks
     
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  3. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Please both update the thread once the $150 has been paid so this issue can be set to rest.
     
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  4. CosmicSoundz

    CosmicSoundz BANNED BANNED

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    This....

    "[11/06/2013 04:14:06] Kimi: But since you want to order some other BST (that will not make you good at all, because I honestly can't name a solid service there) I want to ask you if you would like"


    Isnt Kimi a mod? Thats kinda fucked up that he/she would say that. Kinda shady
     
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  5. Kimi

    Kimi BANNED BANNED

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    That's right, few days ago I have made a request to Diamond Damien to deactivate my Jr. VIP membership, that will mean I will no longer be able to offer any services here.
     
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  6. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Are you drunk? Exactly how did you infer Kimi is a mod? :eek:
     
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    No, I am not drunk.
     
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    7878 Executive VIP Premium Member

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    Classic. One excuse leads to another and then the seller plays the victim as a last resort.

    Day 1 - "I'm just running a little late"
    Day 10 - "Don't worry Im working overtime to complete your project"
    Day 20 - "Oh man my assistant quit and left me scrambling to replace them, just give me a few more days and we'll wrap this up, promise"
    Day 30 - "DUDE - I got struck by lightning while trying to escape my house that coincidentally got washed down river by a tsunami. Can I borrow fifty bucks until wednesday?"

    :squint:
     
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  9. Kimi

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    Mohammed,

    I will manage to refund you the rest of $150 in 14-15 hours from now.

    Please confirm you received $400 also because in the OP I can see you've said we haven't talked in last 4 days and that you also request immediate refund. However, the $400 refund was done by me this morning as I have talked with you and this shitlist was opened by you long hours after I have sent the $400 amount to you.
     
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  10. floorten

    floorten Newbie

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    I'm pretty disappointed with Kimi's service too. There's always a huge delay and false promises and excuses. I ordered same service (Medium competition $497) Package from Kimi on april 27th. Kimi sent me the basecamp detail on 1 May. The linkbuilding was scheduled to start from May 10 and ending on June 28. Untill today, the order has been only partially completed. I got only three reports ( WEB 2.0 *2 + SOCIAL BOOKMARKING *1), the total reports should be 8-10.


    After 2 month, i got only 8 backlinks (Ahrefs.com) and 12 backlinkg from 4 domains (majesticseo.com)
    How Ridiculous! Kimi, i buy your service just beacause i believed you are a pecialist of high prestige here, but you let me down, please refund my money too.




    Tier 1
    Web 2.0 - 40 (20 delivered)
    Social Bookmarking - 100 (20 delivered)
    Private Network Guest Posts - 50 (0 delivered)
    Social Media Profiles - 50 (0 delivered)
    Video Submission - 10 (0 delivered)
    PDF, DOC, PPS Sharing - 15(0 delivered)


    Social Signal (0 delivered so far)
    Delicious - 10
    Stumbles - 10
    Folkd - 8
    Pins - 30
    Re-tweets - 30
    Facebook Like - 40
    Google +1 - 10




    Tire 2-3 (0 delivered so far)
    bookmarks 400
    Web2.0 150
    Wiki 400
    Blog comments 5000
    Forum Prifiles 1500
    (I said i have limited budget, Kimi promised to give me 10 web2.0 and 20 private blog as bonus )




    [2013/6/3 22:09:00] Karl sp: Hi
    [2013/6/3 22:48:35 | Edited 22:48:37] Kimi: Hi Karl
    [2013/6/3 22:48:38] Kimi: I'm here
    [2013/6/3 22:48:46] Kimi: The project will be updated today
    [2013/6/3 22:48:49] Kimi: as it's now taken care of.
    [2013/6/3 22:48:56] Kimi: There have been some delays and I should have informed you
    [2013/6/3 22:49:05] Karl sp: great, thank you very much :)
    [2013/6/3 22:49:33] Kimi: I assure you this kind of delays won't be happening again, and also 100% guarantee this won't influence our campaign goal.
    [2013/6/3 22:49:35] Kimi: Thanks!
    [2013/6/3 22:50:28] Karl sp: (y)
    [2013/6/3 22:53:38] Karl sp: i checked the backlink with majesticseo.com, i can't find any backlink from blog, is it normal?
    [2013/6/3 22:54:38] Karl sp: majesticseo and ahrefs show differnt backlinks
    [2013/6/3 22:54:53] Kimi: Yes, it is normal. I get this question pretty often
    [2013/6/3 22:55:04] Kimi: Ahrefs or any other backlink checked has simply weak servers
    [2013/6/3 22:55:08] Kimi: and can't catch on with the backlinks
    [2013/6/3 22:55:33] Kimi: This is because most of my clients ask me this, Ahrefs & MajesticSEO don't have the servers that Google has
    [2013/6/3 22:55:38] Kimi: to find the new backlinks fast.
    [2013/6/3 22:55:40] Karl sp: your private blogs block the bot from majesticseo and ahrefs ?
    [2013/6/3 22:56:08] Kimi: Yes, but you will see some there because for diversification some have bots blocked some not.
    [2013/6/4 23:05:01] Karl sp: Hi Kimi, have you updated the project?
    [2013/6/5 18:56:31] Kimi: Hi Karl
    [2013/6/5 18:56:36] Kimi: It will took a litle more
    [2013/6/5 18:56:41] Kimi: But it will be soon
    [2013/6/5 18:56:43] Karl sp: oh
    [2013/6/5 18:57:04] Karl sp: could you please tell how many more days it will take?
    [2013/6/5 18:57:18] Kimi: I don't think it will be days
    [2013/6/5 18:57:21] Kimi: Today it will be updated
    [2013/6/5 18:57:26] Kimi: as we're working on it
    [2013/6/5 18:58:29] Karl sp: it's great, do you have a rank checker?
    [2013/6/6 15:58:40] Kimi: Hi Karl
    [2013/6/6 15:58:46] Kimi: Reports will be available soon
    [2013/6/6 15:59:11] Karl sp: :), take is easy, i know it wil get done these two days!
    [2013/6/6 15:59:13] Karl sp: thank you
    [2013/6/6 15:59:52] Karl sp: rather than the report, i'm more concert the ranking
    [2013/6/7 19:49:27] Karl sp: Hi Kimi, could you let me know how many days will i get the report?
    [2013/6/10 12:29:36] Karl sp: hi kimi, you there?
    [2013/6/10 21:38:55] Karl sp: Hi Kimi, can you get back to me?
    [2013/6/10 21:40:44 | Edited 21:40:52] Kimi: Hi Karl
    [2013/6/10 21:40:46] Kimi: Yes, I'm here
    [2013/6/10 21:40:56] Kimi: I know there have been some delays recently
    [2013/6/10 21:41:14 | Edited 21:41:19] Kimi: but I guarantee you we will finish them as soon as possible, I'm working on this
    [2013/6/10 21:41:45] Karl sp: could you tell me the exact time
    [2013/6/10 21:42:04] Kimi: If you could give me 24-48 hours more would be great. I also guarantee you there will be bonuses and additional backlinks to the campaign because of these delays.
    [2013/6/10 21:43:24] Karl sp: No problem. thank you :)
    [2013/6/10 21:45:56] Karl sp: could you let me know what those additional backlinks are?
    [2013/6/10 21:58:59] Kimi: We will add at the end of the campaign any bonus backlinks
    [2013/6/10 21:59:01] Kimi: or additions
    [2013/6/10 21:59:04] Kimi: when we see fit






    Hi Kimi
    [2013/6/22 18:35:59] Karl sp: Kimi, you there?
    [2013/6/22 18:36:07] Kimi: Yes
    [2013/6/22 18:36:08] Kimi: Here
    [2013/6/22 18:37:03] Karl sp: it seems there is some delay on the project?
    [2013/6/22 18:37:55] Kimi: Yes, again sadly.
    [2013/6/22 18:38:05] Kimi: It will be fixed by Monday-Tuesday for sure.
    [2013/6/22 18:38:17] Kimi: because I'm taking care of the link velocity and drip feed to
    [2013/6/22 18:38:18] Kimi: so that's why.
    [2013/6/22 18:38:47] Karl sp: it over 1 month and a half, the site still nowhere to found. I check with Ahres and majectseo, there are only about 10 back links
    [2013/6/22 18:39:19] Kimi: The site will rank soon
    [2013/6/22 18:39:23] Kimi: That's for sure
    [2013/6/22 18:39:34] Kimi: Ahrefs will need more time to find the backlinks
    [2013/6/22 18:40:51] Karl sp: majesticseo also show only 11 backlinks from 4 domains
    [2013/6/22 18:44:21] Kimi: This happens with all backlink checkers
    [2013/6/22 18:44:30] Kimi: They simply don't have powerful servers to find the backlinks fast.
    [2013/6/22 18:46:47] Karl sp: i see backlinks for mainpage, but i can not find backlinks for the inner page.
    [2013/6/22 18:47:26] Karl sp: Did you build links to inner page?
    [2013/6/22 18:47:42] Kimi: That's right, the overall strategy is in process and some of the inner pages have receveid backlinks from private network blog posts
    [2013/6/22 18:47:47] Kimi: some web 2.0 blogs will be pointed to inner pages too




    (Basecamp message by Kimi)
    Kimi posted this message on Fri, 28 Jun.
    Reports
    "Hi floorten,


    Thanks for your huge patience!
    Reports will be available tomorrow.
    Thank you"


    No report sent by Kimi untill now
    I Skyped him, no respond so I loged into BHW and messaged Kimi on 2/7, still no respond.
    "report
    Hi Kimi,
    Do you miss my report?
    Thanks,
    Karl"


    I saw him online and skyped him also today, stll no respond
    [10:49:57] Karl sp: Hi Kimi, you there?
    [10:51:44] Karl sp: Could you get back to me please?
     
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  11. GiorgioB

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    Before I followed all threads and blueprints by Kimi, thinking "wow this stuff is great, this guy knows his shit".. then I ordered a service for about $100-150, can't remember. SEO bomb, it was.

    To be honest, i had better results from a 5$ BST from another provider. I also got a report with a couple of web 2.0s with competely bullshit unrelated content, a couple of social bookmarks, .etc.. as i said, not even worth $5. I didn't really complain cos i"m not that kind of person, but honestly OP, I completely side with you.


    Kimi is the kind of member like this... cultivate a great rep on BHW, pass off as a knowledgeable SEOer, offer services which look amazing.. however, its crap. Useless.. after his service, my traffic and my rankings didn't increase even a bit. I wouldn't go so far as calling it a scam or opening a shitlist, just crap business practice, definitely not worth the price which to be honest is quite high. As I said, I got better results from $5 BST providers.

    edit: Kimi, will you offer a refund to me? Last time I complained to you you said you would have another blast on your "mysterious" (imaginary?) blog network... now the only thing I interested in is getting a refund, even a partial refund. As I said, your service didn't bring me even $1 so i'm not interested in additional links or anything from you except my money.
     
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  12. Kimi

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    floorten, you are the 3th client out of 6 who have delays on the order.

    And since I have refunded $400 to Mohammed and I asked for some time to make up for the $150 I won't be able to refund you instantly today. It's obvious I will need some time for you to make up for the $497 I have to send.

    GiorgioB and yes, I will refund your money too - time if you can give me will be great :)
     
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  13. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Everyone who is due for refunds please update the thread when you receive it (partially or fully).
     
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    Had a nice talk with Kimi on Skype, he promised refund full payment within a week.
     
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  15. mohammedsuhaib

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    Many thanks to Jazzc for approving the thread.


    I confirm that Kimi has refunded $400 and has agreed to refund the balance amount. Also, this thread was not created after you sent me refund, it was created before you sent me refund. Only after submitting this thread, I pinged you on skype and informed you that the Shitlist thread is created.

    I will confirm once again when the remaining amount is refunded.

     
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    Refunded a big part of the rest just now. In total has been refunded 540$. I can't send the full rest + the fees so I will need few more days to send the rest and payment fees that will cover the full refund.

    Next is GiorgioB with 147$ to be refunded and floorten with 497$ to be refunded. I'm trying to do these two refunds as soon as possible obviously.
     
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  17. mohammedsuhaib

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    Just now got $140 more from Kimi.. So my refund stands completed.. (btw lost $30 in PP fees and 2 good months)

    But I am thankful to BHW Mods and Admin for getting this problem resolved.... BHW as a community is indeed great... This Shitlist Thread system really serves as a tool for members to guard their interests and warn others..

    Many thanks again.. You guys are awesome...
     
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  18. Kimi

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    Thanks Mohammed, as talked on Skype yesterday I will cover the fees too and regarding the 2 months lost I also said on Skype that we're not gonna delete the backlinks so that you will see rankings for your site.

    Working out to solve this situation in the best condition possible and trying to make it up for the time lost of course.
     
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  19. PeaceLoveSubmission1

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    I am having exact same problem KIMI, having ordered a package to test him out a month a go, soo far from what I can tell this guy has a way with words but lacks in action. He assuered me work had started 2 weeks ago and i should see movements over the coming weeks. One of the days he even told me " I am personally taking care of your order as we speak" I have the feeling he is a professional con artist. Time will tell....

    [12/06/2013 12:37:56] Kimi: Hi *******
    [12/06/2013 12:38:23] Kimi: There have been some delays as you can see
    [12/06/2013 12:38:40] Kimi: but If you are ok with this I will be able to create a bonus of 50% backlinks for you
    [12/06/2013 12:38:42] Kimi: is this fair?
    [12/06/2013 12:38:53] Gumbley: yes this is fair
    [12/06/2013 12:38:56] Gumbley: thank you
    [12/06/2013 12:39:36] Kimi: There were some issues, I know this is not your problem but just wanted to let you know why there was the late.
    [12/06/2013 12:39:57] Kimi: Everything will be fixed asap. I could say that you will get the complete reports within 2 days from now
    [12/06/2013 12:40:11 | Edited 12:40:12] Kimi: and the ranking results will come in 1 week or 1 week half maximum.


    He said I have to wait for a week to see a refund. Who know's what will be the story in week, and the week after that and the week after that. Charge Back time I think.
     
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    Messaged PeaceLoveSubmission1 on Skype:

    [4:16:23 AM] Kimi: Hi ---
    [4:16:25 AM] Kimi: Are you there?
    [4:16:53 AM] -----: yes
    [4****:03 AM] Kimi: I'm here, let's talk for a time as I understand you are sick of all the delays* and you think I'm a scammer, I totally get you

    And now meanwhile this thread I have one client that hasn't experienced any delay on his order asking me for refund. I guess people just panic, but it happens I can't complain.
     
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