Don't Listen to White Hat Propaganda [Test Results]

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Nowadays, this forum is full of white hat propaganda newbies. I want to give you folks a word of advice.

Don't listen to them. You know who I'm talking about... the "build natural" , "100% unique content Tier 1".

After Penguin, I was afraid to use spun content, etc. Frankly I had a mental block and it was killing me.

I am the owner of a ~200 domain high PR blog network, but again was afraid to use it b/c all the propaganda I read.

Now I've done my own testing and I can tell you for 100% Fact all of it is bullshit.

Links I used to "push" for these 3 tests ---- Low OBL HPR Blog comments, HPR Network posts (Unique).
All other content was spun (non 100% unique - Web 2.0 , Wikis , bookmarks, etc).

Test #1, Site #1:
Difficulty: Medium-Hard
http://panel.micrositemasters.com/reports/8e45fdf932784a51caff3503rr6egvx.html

Test #2, Site #2:
Difficulty: Medium-Hard
http://panel.micrositemasters.com/reports/07fc7e43023454d8b34d3504qs7rarj.html

Test #3, Site #3
Difficulty: Hard-Extremely Hard
(Site has made $400 profit at rank #29, mainly from LSI traffic. Monthly is around 70-90k exacts)
http://panel.micrositemasters.com/reports/9619875a05ad553e7d8d35054a04sk4.html


Conclusion: Do your own testing before listening to what ANYONE says on BHW nowadays.
If I wouldn't have run these tests... I would be missing out on HUGE sums of cash.

P.s. All tests were "Analyzed" with Microsite Masters and I verified no other backlinks were built during the test.
 
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Fancy Sharing your niche for the 3rd site? The prize is I will give you a secret handshake. ;)

Seriously now I agree with you, traditional methods are still working with me also but still you have to be careful and get a good balance. As one refresh could fuck you up later on.
 
The old methods may be working, but the old methods have been directly linked to sites being knocked back in the SERPS and sandboxed. Sure you don't have to do everything 100% white hat, but the old school method of sending 23892389238923892389239 scrapebox links to your money site doesn't work very well.
 
Yea, this is why I keep all my Network posts 100% unique, and diverse on the anchors. I find Web 2.0s boring, time-consuming, and not as effective as they once were... I'd prefer to just phase them out altogether eventually.
 
Sure, that's a given. On the HPR Low OBL comments I only sent ~100 per day (average), alternating URLs. But these fools saying "Use 100% unique content on Tier 1"... are just that, fools.

Sceptre said:
The old methods may be working, but the old methods have been directly linked to sites being knocked back in the SERPS and sandboxed. Sure you don't have to do everything 100% white hat, but the old school method of sending 23892389238923892389239 scrapebox links to your money site doesn't work very well.
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I've got many many hours invested into that one friend.

How does this "secret handshake" help me? :)

And do you compete in a similar market (search volume)?

PeaceLoveSubmission1 said:
Fancy Sharing your niche for the 3rd site? The prize is I will give you a secret handshake. ;)

Seriously now I agree with you, traditional methods are still working with me also but still you have to be careful and get a good balance. As one refresh could fuck you up later on.
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Black hat is becoming more time consuming... so it depends on the time/money ppl have to invest. You can't poop out a spun article and blast it evberywhere and then just blast junk BMs and SB to that for a cheap/easy pyramid anymore. BH takes as much time now as white hat used to I think. But it still works IF you know the secrets.
 
Ya, if I used "one" spun article, none of this would've worked. That's one of the "secrets" for sure, this article was... well... Massive, to say the least. Although, completely auto-generated... hehehe :spy:

ThopHayt said:
Black hat is becoming more time consuming... so it depends on the time/money ppl have to invest. You can't poop out a spun article and blast it evberywhere and then just blast junk BMs and SB to that for a cheap/easy pyramid anymore. BH takes as much time now as white hat used to I think. But it still works IF you know the secrets.
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It will be interesting to see your chats in a couple of months time

Spamming does work very very well but it's short lived, couple or three months then the slipping starts

Great for rank and tanks but for a proper business nah I'll be fine thanks
 
I can't wait to see what happens. My articles are rated 98% unique on TBS, 2500%+ unique on UD.

And all my blog network posts are 100% unique. I also keep my anchor ratio down at around 10-20% exacts.

My bet? I'll be sitting pretty for quite some time. It's not "spamming", it's called "intelligent blackhat (grey hat?) SEO". Big difference.

wannabie said:
It will be interesting to see your chats in a couple of months time

Spamming does work very very well but it's short lived, couple or three months then the slipping starts

Great for rank and tanks
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No problem buddy, I'm glad to be able to share this information.

Of course, there's a lot of "secrets" that I left out, and people would have to figure them out themselves.

My main objective was to help people in the same situation as me.

Drop the mental block, run as many tests as possible, as quickly as possible, and start winning again.

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Thank you OP
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I will stick to white hat methods for long term results
 
Great, I bet you said the same shit 3 years ago. Lol ... Alright back to work, I'll check the thread later.

ferma231 said:
I will stick to white hat methods for long term results
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It works, seriously how can a machine read an article to check if it is grammatical perfect? Seriously.... not now but maybe in future.

However, if you get a red flag and big g review your site you will be banned from serps. My suggestion for you is building different sites (dont focus in ONE) if something happens to one of them you still have another as backup. Also this is perfect for keyword analise.

And for the people that thinks manualy review of websites is UNLIKELY to happen I will tell ur wrong -that depends in the niche and also the amount of organic traffic you get. i guess...
 
So you're saying ALL the high competition markets don't have spam as backlinks?

Yea, they do. All of them. Analyze their profiles to find massive spam every time.

Manual review of website (on-page), very likely, and was implemented in Panda 1.0.

Manual review of Backlinks.... ermm... well, I think it's unlikely right now. It's hard (and not time-effective) to manually review thousands of backlinks.

P.s. I've never had a website, or client site "banned" (as in de-indexed) from the SERPs for backlinks in 5+ years.

psytrance said:
It works, seriously how can a machine read an article to check if it is grammatical perfect? Seriously.... not now but maybe in future.

However, if you get a red flag and big g review your site you will be banned from serps. My suggestion for you is building different sites (dont focus in ONE) if something happens to one of them you still have another as backup. Also this is perfect for keyword analise.

And for the people that thinks manualy review of websites is UNLIKELY to happen I will tell ur wrong -that depends in the niche and also the amount of organic traffic you get. i guess...
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If white has was so effective the Warrior Forums would be full of millionaires. Instead, look at their SEO sub-forum. Almost no one is making money (aside from WSO sellers)! And Warrior Forums is the KING of white hat!
 
No thats not my point. My point is that depends in the niche. review or not its all the niche it self (most of the time) or even others factor such as amount of traffic and backlinks.

Think for a second... Big g is here to make money not for give you money :)

If all your front page competitiors have 10k plus quality backlinks do you expect to outrank them with 10k crap (free platforms) backlinks? Thats my point. If big markets have spam backlinks? sure they do. because their competitiors have them too. but its not the amount of backlinks that matters ur compeltely wrong if you think like that. its the amount of quality that matters. one quality link is better than 10 crap links. but the amount of investment (both in time and money) to get that quality link could be more than the others 10. So sincerely, ur point sucks or I didnt understand it correctly.

Back to the topic of manualy review of websites - what do you think that happens when an adwords advertiser call google saying that his competitor (which eventualy is not paying for ads) is getting tons of crap backlinks and ranking higher than his site? Yeah you know what happen... But its nice to know that never happen to you.
 
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