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Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by lietuvis002, Aug 24, 2012.

  1. lietuvis002

    lietuvis002 BANNED BANNED

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    Do not buy "unique" or rewritten articles from fiverr or elsewhere. Ok, I will give You example.

    Enter this in google:
    Now this:

    Both texts are identical, only the second rewrote manually.

    How this is possible?

    In first text the font is different than text 2, so google don't find first article.

    The sellers are just writing You , that the text is "unique", but they are just copy paste from another website, and earning $$$..


    I found this one in my country forum uzdarbis :)
     
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  2. puneetas3

    puneetas3 Senior Member

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    You sure Google can't recognize articles with different fonts, is it that dumb. I think you want to refer to character spinning. Yes google can't differentiate it with normal text.
     
  3. humvee9

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    what is this .. some sort of unicoding CODING trick to fool google ??
     
  4. LeMerovigian

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    Is that why you're suppose to inquire articles in rtf. or plain text format?
     
  5. phpfail

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    Google can definitely recognize different fonts, because they use source code to read the sites, and fonts are in the source code, its just plain text. View the source on both websites, and you will see what I mean. They don't read the site as the browser see's it, they read the raw coding that the browse is interpreting.
     
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    This is why u do Premium CopyScape scan before you accept any of the articles that "writer" provided you. :)
     
  7. lietuvis002

    lietuvis002 BANNED BANNED

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    Try to copy first text to word and You will see that every second character is with different font, then first character.
     
  8. SEOnetic

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    Its a old method. Simple character encoding. Works till now and its pretty easy to get copyscape passed articles that way.
     
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    And i wanted to start article writing in fiverr.

    It isnt that hard to write unique article, it takes me max 20-30 mins to write unique article who pass copyscape.
     
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    lietuvis002 BANNED BANNED

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    Yeah, but there ame many ppls who wants to write faster, so they cheat.
     
  11. skadster

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    When I wrote articles on Fiverr they where always unique. I soon realized though that me researching crap like Mongolian slippers, whilst SEOing the articles to the best of my ability simply wasn't worth it, especially after everyone had their cut and it was converted to UK pounds.

    This is possibly how most article writers feel on Fiverr, even without the conversion costs. This then obviously results in writers producing what they feel the fee was worth. That said, I've seen plenty of writers on their with great feedback, and I was overwhelmed with work within days of starting my gig on Fiverr.
     
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  12. lietuvis002

    lietuvis002 BANNED BANNED

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    NightFury -> Yes, You can see it in my examples.
     
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    kvmcable Supreme Member

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    Cyrillic encoding has been around for more than a year trying to fool noobs. It doesn't fool Google about the content because Google reads code and not interpreted browser results. That being said, nobody will be using Cyrillic code to search for your page so your page will never see traffic and won't be indexed for the text you desire. You will be indexed for the Cyrillic text that your page contains which is pointless.

    Here is a Google search of the first line of text:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=I+t...pw.r_qf.&fp=3d5637f644e45163&biw=1113&bih=766

    Here are the Google search results for the second line of text:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=I+t...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

    As you can see the first results only has 2 pages while the second result has many more pages. You can also see Google correctly picked it off this page showing the correct sentence in each result page. Cyrillic text is indexed just as Cyrillic text which nobody uses in search. So don't use Cyrillic characters if you want to be indexed for English search results.
     
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    Very funny, I never thought of that...interesting, but I wouldn't risk it for the penguin! I always use copyscape premium when accepting articles from outsourced writers
     
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    Spun articles without any proofreading, just enough to pass copyscape are useless.

    I learned the hard lesson learned from dealing with MNS here which I purchased for my client, which MNS's own writer wrote the bad spun articles, as shown here:

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    I recommended everyone to hire the real writer to write the great articles if they want to keep their sites ranked well for long-term.
     
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  16. Piratematerial

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    On Elance you can find writer's for fairly cheap. I take quite some jobs there myself. Though too often I see people requiring 500 words for less then $5 dollar that `must pass copyscape!` Well if it actually passes copyscape you kinda got what you deserve :)

    Writing researched, unique and seo optimised content is hard work and it can be done fast but not for a Fiverr at 400 words+.

    My advice is try different seo writers. Find one you like and build a relationship with him. Maybe pay 20% more but you get good content and no surprises.
     
  17. lietuvis002

    lietuvis002 BANNED BANNED

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    Some people are too lazy to check spelling, fonts.. for articles, so be aware, don't be lazy and check Your text :)
     
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    I am the customer of that writing services who speaks from my experience. I do not pay that rate ($25-50/hour??), as I get special rate because of the long-term article writing/copywriting projects she's writing for me and my customers.

    if you have a better writer who can write top notch articles for less, then, please list here...to share with everyone.
     
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    Actually heard about it long back. Even a premium copyscape account can be fooled, you just need to be smart enough to do that. OP is right when he says that article becomes Unique after doing some simple modifications. But at the end of day, you're not safe. You're always in the state of constant fear that your website will have to face DMCA notice and your adsense can be gone forever. It's stupidity to try such stupid tactics, which can easily backfire.
     
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    I'm asking her to sign up to become a new BHW member here, then comment on this thread. To be honest, she is kinda afraid of BHW due to the "dark side" here. I told her that there are cool people here who would be very sincere to her.

    She will try to sign up here later today.

    Until then, please stay tuned.