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Dont Build Links Too Fast, Google Will Deindex You :-(

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by SuperBlackHat, Sep 29, 2010.

  1. SuperBlackHat

    SuperBlackHat Power Member

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    How many of you guys have heard such utter and ridiculous nonsense? How could "too fast" even ever become a topic of discussion? Theres no such thing as natural link building speed so that Google wont deindex you.

    Has anybody ever thought for a moment about huge corporations who have huge budgets and can afford to backlink like mad? When you go into market samurai and see some of these sites have 20,000,000 backlinks.......do you think that shit happened by them building 10 links a day naturally? Dont be retarded people.

    There are times when a major story will break about a celerbrity or some nonsene and the site hosting that story will get like 1 million backlinks to it one day. Or a youtube video that goes viral and is embedded around the world on every blog in less than 24 hours. Or in most other cases, there are companies who have major budgets and understand SEO and backlinks and pay money to companies to build 100,000s of links per day. I highly disregard and disagree with the "natural backlink timeframe" myth.

    The only thing one need concern themselves with when building backlinks is creating backlink footprints; linking patterns...... that is the only thing that can possibly matter, AT MOST. Link building speed, absolutely not. I wish seo "gurus" would stop spewing this nonsense.

    Ive thrown 100,000+ links at 2 week old domains and see them ranking not to far after. A little google dance here and there, but im back and holding on strong to the page 1 ranking. So please people.... anytime you hear a guru or some "expert" marketer tell you "build links at the rate of only 10 a day, so that you seem natural to Google", please tell them to piss off.

    Rant over.
     
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  2. michael lou

    michael lou Registered Member

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    lol.. agree. u can have 1,000 links every day and it's still fine.
     
  3. rocket

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    if you could get deindexed for too many links, i would do a 1 million link blast with Xrumer for my competitors every week an keep them deindexed.


    MYTH
     
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  4. blackieman

    blackieman Power Member

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    The way I understand it, google works on the authority of where the link is coming from. So for example, they will zap the authority of a site selling links, not a site buying links. They know you do not have control on incoming links, only outgoing.

    So I think you are right. I have an online biz which allows posting by 3rd parties. Some sections of my online biz has 10k incoming posts set up to promote junk (banned, of course). But those links are not hurting my online biz in anyway, and neither should they.
     
  5. yesman22

    yesman22 Newbie

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    seconded.. i built 1 million links in 7 days on a new domain and was not blocked

    1,034,107 links according to google webmaster tools

    total garbage
     
  6. matt1972

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    I love your attitude dude.. ********'m.. send them links out and get the shit done.. :thumb:
     
  7. shellc0de

    shellc0de Newbie

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    Finally someone with some sense.....100% agree with you my friend.
     
  8. Bestbuyfoam

    Bestbuyfoam Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Let me ask a question...

    I have on website with one wordpress blog on it I sell a real product...

    What kind of backlinks do you build and how do you rotate your urls and keywords?

    My niche is a very tough one and there is tons of keywords I need to go after to dominate my niche...

    If you all don't mind on giving me some direction on how to do this like blasting links at my main url all the time what you all are saying its not going to hurt anything right...

    Thanks a million,

    And Have A Blessed One...
     
  9. cool5now

    cool5now Registered Member

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    I agree to a point. I would not agree that its a good idea to drop a million links on a new domain and then just leave it. Matt Cutts talks about fluctuations in incoming links and that google likes to see a steady stream of links rather than 'blasts'. For me this is the way forwards. Big blasts of links and then nothing is just to obvious IMO. An example is when you move on to a new project you are excited about and forget to give your old sites a boost. They inevitably start to drop down the serps because you've neglected them. Even ones that have fresh content on a daily basis. If you don't keep up the blasts or find another way to build links ie. link bait its a struggle.
     
  10. cool5now

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    Anyone have any experiences to the contary?
     
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  11. benpari

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    To be honest, I have made it so several squidoo lenses and hubpages completely disappear from the index of google, not just the serps, from building 20k+ links in less than a month. They may come back eventually, but its been weeks.
     
  12. crosscheck

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    I think the "gurus" keep spewing it over and over again because they don't want to scare the off nice residual incomes and job security. If the company's paying large coin for seo and not blinking an eye at the invoices every month why tell them they could save 3,4,5k maybe even more a month with 500 bucks in software and get 20k links in a day rather than 2 years.
     
  13. SuperBlackHat

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    If you're blasting millions of links, they don't show up all at the same time anyway regardless, unless you ping. Only with pinging, would you have to worry about getting yourself into trouble, because then a red flag is being raised as to something funny is going on here, and Google will send someone to take a look at your site.

    Even then though still, if your site isnt doing any funny business as far as ON-PAGE seo, then i dont think you really need to worry about getting deindexed, as you are mostly always penalized for on-page shenagigans than you are off-page, since there are situations where its impossible for you to control where your inlinks are coming from.

    Matt Cutts and his Google friends must only like sites like facebook and youtube and twitter and the rest of the web 2.0 crowd then since these are the only sort of sites that constantly get a steady stream of constant links everyday. I guess they're gonna get ready to drop the deindex hammer on the other 99% of non-web 2.0 sites.
     
  14. SuperBlackHat

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    As it is currently, im using scrapebox wordpress blog links, xrumer links, senuke links (profile and article mix). The key here is to have variation. No follow mixed in with follow, high pr mixed with low pr..... basically a backlink jambalaya if you will.

    As of about 2 weeks ago, I used to be of the thinking of sending my anchor texted links to links spread throughout my site. Now though, im changing this behavior, and im sending all my links straight to one relevant page. The reason being that when I checked some of my sites in market samurai, my sites would have links yes, but I still had no rank for the keyword i wanted due to the page im wanting ranked had little to no links. Thats because all my links were being spread around across my site pages with no direct concentration.

    Im now concentrating on sending links to a page one a time. Each new page I want to rank, ill make it another project and do more backlinking again aimed at that page. Eventually your whole site should raise up in rank, but I have to believe this strategy should make it a quicker and more potent process. Lets see how it goes.
     
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  15. sunbros

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    Agree!
     
  16. Dshah

    Dshah Newbie

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    i am going to try this, so appreciate if you can guide me please, are you blasting your main site or your property links on web 2.0 sites or profiles? and how many links you send per day?

    thanks
     
  17. Proteus

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    This is my findings too.

    In stead of a spread I do two at a time. The home page I always use a combination of mydomain and keywords in the anchor tag, just to make it look natural. The rest I follow the same approach. I target one page at a time 10k on each page. Then I move to articles and do the same.....
     
  18. Bestbuyfoam

    Bestbuyfoam Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Thanks for your time, good timing for me!

    Definitely something I'm going to try...

    Hopefully it can help me...

    Thanks +rep

    Thanks a million,

    And have a blessed one...
     
  19. fvcktheworld

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    I agree also. I am even running a test on this right now. The only thing that I am considering is the fact that the site has to have some traffic to be able to recieve that many backlinks, so my theory is to send a ton of cheap/free fake traffic and building a shit pot of links.

    I am doing this for a makemoneyonline domain, which is a pretty tuff niche, because most of the people in this niche on the first page are seo savy. I am actually going to start a thread right now about what I am doing.

    I think it is really important that we test these things and get figured out what we need to do, so the big "G" is licking my ass, and/or changing everything again.

    Thanks + Rep Given for this useful thread op.
     
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