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Domain Name Suggestion ::: For SEO Purpose

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by newkid..., Apr 15, 2010.

  1. newkid...

    newkid... Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Hey...

    Just wanted to have one quick clarification. Someone here might be of my help.

    Need to book a long tail keyword domain (4 words). Now the problem is that domain is not available. so I have two option now.

    Say for example, the domain I need to book is
    word1word2word3word4.com but since its not there, which one of the below will be better (purely from G***** SEO perspective)

    Option one: Add one extra word at the end of domain

    word1word2word3word4tips.com

    Option two: Separate it with hyphen

    word1-word2-word3-word4.com

    Anyone with experience in domain, please revert. I need response only from experienced members who understand domain SEO. Who really knows the stuff... no Guessing..

    Random guessing will cost me price of 100 domains... need to book 100 domains today
     
  2. Choronzon

    Choronzon Power Member

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    This idea of names containing keywords is laughable for me. My SEO domain has NO keywords in the title and in fact was bought with the intention of setting up a dating site originally. I am still #1 for county+SEO and SEO+county. Why give yourself a headache, I would just go for something brandable, I don't believe the hype about keywords in the domain name affecting your ranking, sorry.
     
  3. MagicMike

    MagicMike Power Member

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    I'm a believer that domain rich keywords make a significant difference in SERPS, all other things being equal. I've had good success with tacking on the word "expert" on the end of my domain when I have to.

    My VERY limited testing says that it seems to work better than hypens... but I'd like to hear other peoples experience on this as well.
     
  4. aftershock2020

    aftershock2020 Senior Member

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    It doesn't matter anymore...brand your domain for what people will like to use and say. Examples that prove keywords in the domain don't matter anymore:

    Google, ebay, facebook, myspace, twitter.

    Select domains that reflect the product/service/intent of the site and worry about the real issues, of seo and content.
     
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  5. theconfidenceman

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    keyword in the domain definately helps with ranking. plus if you are using backlinking strategies that dont allow anchor text, a keyword domain acts as a workaround because you still get the keyword w/o having to use anchor text. so if youre going this route, and its strictly SE traffic, using word1-word2-word3 is fine. If you expect to get traffic by word or mouth, its best you DO NOT use the hyphens because people typically dont remember them or know where to put them. If you need to add a word to it... use best, top, online and other generic easy to remember names.

    If you are going to be branding and going viral with little to no organic keyword searched traffic, then some easy to remember but means absolutely nothing name is fine.... spoofer... trooper.. zoofer... lol
     
  6. ticbra

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    Go with something that people can remember...
     
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    goldstrike4u Junior Member

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    For a four word domain you are better adding a word. If .net or .org are available instead of .com this is better still in my experience
     
  8. newkid...

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    @ Choronzon: you are right in the sense that it is not necessory to have keyword in the domain to rank number one. I do agree. Even I have a website with my personal name which ranks number one for one particular keyword among 134K competition...

    Having said that I also believe that having a keyword in the domain gives you few plus point and definitively gives you slight on-page optimization edge..

    If there are two website equally optimized in all the way for one keyword.... and if one of the domain name contains that keyword, this for sure will rank above the others...

    Though nothing can be said for sure but this is what I have found with few of my experiments
     
  9. amsterdamned

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    I know it makes a difference for local search, and its still a ranking factor (more so for yahoo for example).

    However a brandable domain, ie you create something that people talk about is another way to the same end, perhaps better given the direction google goes lately.

    I guess it also depends on the type of site. Meaning that some sites are better of with a twitter and others with exact search phrase.

    Anyway thats my opinion.
     
  10. flibbertigibbet

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    If you can get a .info, .in, .co.uk, .it, or something along those lines with the full keyword phrase in it-get it. I've tested multiple domains with the "-" between keywords, and it IS harder to rank. Oh yes, don't believe what you hear about .info not being able to rank, as I have several at #1 spots for competitive words in UNDER a month with .info. While .net and .com are the best way to go because they're unrestricted (they show up in results for any region or country), untimately your decision will depend on what market you're trying to reach. Good luck. :)
     
  11. hughmac

    hughmac Newbie

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    a good start is to check out what the page one competition for that keyword are doing, because those are the sites you have to beat to get top spot. Do any of them have the keyword in the URL?

    General opinion says that having the keyword in the URL is of some benefit but difficult to quantify because their are so many other variables that influence the serps.

    Market Samuri, if you have access to it, has a useful competition matrix which enables you to see and compare competitors quite easily.

    My experience has been that adding text to the beginning of the URL is more effective than adding text on to the end.
     
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  12. newkid...

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    All response here seems worth and speaks individual's experience.

    Though getting some name which can be brand-able is real good idea but from these domains, I definitively don't want to make a authority site.. I just want to rank for cpa promotion as long the product and search exist, I will be working with these domains and then let it expire

    This should solve the issue... make one brandable name and for any specific keyword, create a subdomain like word1word2.name.com.........in this way I can get both factor mixed... isn't it