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Domain for PBN - parameters.

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by fantas, Jan 26, 2017.

  1. fantas

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    Hi
    What parameters you use while buying exipred domain for PBN?
    What to pay attention?
     
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    da pa tf cf 15+
    age 3+
    spam -4
    referring ips 30+
    backlinks 100+
     
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    Min 100 high quality RD.
     
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    Domains with:
    -TF and CF 5+ with ratio of .66
    -5-200 Referring Domains
    -Good Backlink profile and clean history
     
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    @Ding Dong Thanks :D

    Well, all the answers so far were completely off of course :)

    - DA PA CF are completely crap metrics which have 0 impact on the actual strength of the domain. PA/DA are just "toy" metrics. Domains with 1RD and 2000BL sitewide link will have DA over the roof, while some decent RD30+ domains will have crap DA of 8. It's random and unreliable and I advise anyone to take it with a huge reserve.
    - Age of the domain is irrelevant, no impact on SEO at all. It's all about the age of the content itself and how long it is in index. The fact that domain was first registered in 1995 will not help you to achieve anything at all.
    - Spam -4 - Just lol really :) No automated spam tool can tell you if the domain is spammed or not. You have your hands, so use them and see if it's really clean or not.
    - Referring IPs 30+ - Aha, so it's okay to have a 200+RD domain with 35 referring IPs? No it's not. :)
    - Backlinks 100+ - Sure, even domain with 1RD can have 100+ backlinks, so again, misleading.

    This is better already, but the CF again... if someone wants high CF, I can assure everyone, that he does not really know what he is talking about. Especially sellers who sell high CF domains. That's just... bad. 5 - 200 referring domains is a difference between paying $5 and $500 for the domain. :) Good profile and clean history are of course a must have.

    And now to OP:

    First of all, you should set up a budget for the domain. There's a huge difference if your budget is $10, $100 or $300 per domain. What you should be looking at first is RD and TF. The higher the RD, the more reliable TF is as well. So if you are low on money, then RD 10+ is the very minimum you should go with. TF... well... anything with 10+ is fine, if the backlink profile is good. DA, CF, PA, Spamscore, Moz anal meter and stuff like that can be thrown out of the window. You have hands and head, use them to analyze stuff closely.

    Another thing of course are authority backlinks, with those you can go a bit lower on the metrics, but I am not a huge fan of those. Most of the time, Authority sites are overscraped and you have to go reaaally low and I don't like that too much.

    Yeh and another thing to consider is niche relevancy. If you want niche relevancy, then you will in most cases be forced to go lower on metrics. Imagine there's a pool of 1 million expired domains worldwide (bullshit but let's imagine). Out of those, 100K have RD10+. Out of that, 50K have additionally TF9+. Out of that, 15K are clean. And out of those 15K, maybe 0.5% is in home improvement. That brings is to 75 domains? I get asked for home improvement domains 5 times a week. So yeh, I think I made my point. :)

    Also, if you are buying from auctions, buy just indexed domains. Especially if you are new and can't analyze the history properly, that will save you a lot of time.
     
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    Hope you weren't half way through writing the post :)
     
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    I always like your high quality posts, now, I'm just wandering about this new tool here: Moz anal meter, how do you get access to it? Only for VIPs or some exclusive invite-only access, or...? :D
     
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    You should look at each link individually to see if it's a good domain. Stuff like Ahrefs and Majestic are good to find potential domains but your own judgement is your best tool.
    I've found DA 30 domains with almost all directory, and crap backlinks. Then I've found DA 30 of a ton of good backlinks.
     
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    What is RD and how do you measure it? Thanks. Getting back into IM form a long hiatus.
     
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    RD is the number of referring domains.

    You measure it by... checking the number of referring domains :D You can use either Majestic or Ahrefs for that. Some people measure it at "http://www.domain.tld" (URL) and some, like me, at root (domain.com). Pick is ultimately yours and I think root is the better option, because the backlinks are still pointing to the domain, doesn't matter that they point to the inner pages, and you should utilize them effectively.
     
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    1.clean history/anchot text
    2.50+ RD(only ********)
    3.5+ contexual links from authority site (********)
     
  16. fantas

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    thx Nargil. maybe will use your shop
     
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    what is RD stands for?

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    Nevermind, thanks

     
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    Google don't follow any metrics so better cut the crap and just go by the quality of backlinks to your expired domain. Or listen to SEO guru tards who have a business interest in those metric "measurement" companies.