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Doing okay on TextBroker, but can I do better?

Discussion in 'Associated Content & Writing Articles' started by @shelton_sellers, Sep 16, 2012.

  1. @shelton_sellers

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    I have written 14 articles on TB and all of them have been accepted, ranging from 100 words to 750 words.
    Total I have accrued around $50.00 and was wondering if I could do better somewhere else.
    I could make my living on TB, but it would tedious and annoying work; just wondering if there is anything better to work with for writing.


    Thanks and I look forward to hearing back from you.
     
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    You can JV with someone good with SEO and keyword research, you build the sites, he ranks. Would be a good set up.
     
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    Hmmm, sounds like a good idea.
    We talking blogs mainly, or sites with more concrete content?
     
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    You can write for AC
     
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    I was thinking about doing that but not really sure how AC works.
    Is the pay worth it? I am quite confident with my writing, but how strict are they? etc...
     
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    Also, looks like Yahoo! has bought out AC and even as much as logging in is a pain now.
     
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    Writing for forums and anything under $10.00 is basically writing for peanuts.

    Here's what I'm doing:

    Building up a portfolio at a dirt cheap price. I'm going to then start a website and contact companies offering them content/SEO writing services.
     
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    See, this is what I was thinking.
    For the portfolio are you basically writing articles for yourself, that are "dummy" articles on random topics?
     
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    Blogs, sites, anything really. Everyone needs content ;)
     
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    True.

    I just signed up on iWriter to give that a test run.
    Seems like it could work out as well but not for huge profit once again.

    We shall see.
     
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    Guys I sent my writing sample to TB how long does it usually take before I can start getting work?

    Thanks in advance. I know they say about a week on their page but what was your experience like?
     
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    They got back to me in three days, but that was ages ago.
     
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    Just got this from TB - The 3 star assignments fell off a cliff over a year ago, and even the ones available were ridiculous. Like requiring the author to watch an hour-long program just to write a 250-word synopsis for a couple bucks. I don't understand why more people don't just put articles up on free blogs and monetize them in other ways. Writing for content mills and their strange requirements seems to be an inefficient way to make money with articles, even more so nowadays. I don't think google is as worried about which school of comma placement an article adheres to as a content mill like TB is.

    From our CEO: a good time for authors to visit Textbroker
    We don?t often send out an email to all of our freelance authors about the number of orders available at textbroker.com. The number of orders changes from
    day to day and even from hour to hour. And sometimes, there might be a lot of orders in one category or quality level but not in others, which would make a
    mass email particularly inefficient and inappropriate for many of our writers.
    That is the case today?we have thousands of 4-star orders available, hundreds of 5-star and TeamOrders, but not so many 2- or 3-star assignments.
    However, this email is more about a change we are seeing in what our clients want and how they order. Given that our ability to keep our clients happy and
    coming back rests almost entirely on you, our authors, we wanted to make sure you were updated on what we see as a significant change in our business.
    Those of you familiar with the improvements Google makes from time to time to its search ranking algorithm know that the Panda update early last year pushed
    sites with higher quality, more recently posted content above sites with lower quality and/or older information. It punished sites with poor quality
    content on any of their pages even if the site had high quality articles for the keyword being searched. In other words, it forced website owners who cared
    about where they ranked in Google?s results to replace their older, lower quality content with newer, better information. That led to a significant
    increase in the number of orders placed at the 4- and 5-star levels on Textbroker.
    Two main elements of how Google determines where to rank a site for a particular keyword are the content on the page and the links to that page from other
    websites. Google considers links to a page to be a -"vote-" for that page, and sites with lots of links from third party sites rank higher than ones without
    many links. This year, Google turned its focus to better understanding which links seemed to be real expressions of confidence in a site?s content and
    which seemed to be placed by the site owner in an attempt to -"game-" Google?s algorithm. Typically, the ones placed by the site owner had poor quality
    content around the link because the site owner didn?t care who read the content as long as Google?s algorithm counted the link within the content as a vote
    for the site. This algorithm update has been named Penguin, and it took effect a few months ago. Penguin has led to a decrease in orders placed on
    Textbroker, especially 2- and 3-star orders, because Google now ignores or actively penalizes sites that have links that seem to have been placed by the
    site owner, dropping them from the top of Google?s search results. Interestingly, if we add up the number of words requested by our clients across all of
    their orders, the total words has not dropped. In other words, clients are ordering longer articles from our 4- and 5-star authors, either in our OpenOrder
    pool or via DirectOrders, TeamOrders and ExpertOrders, and they are placing less short, 2- and 3-star assignments.
    The other change we are seeing is driven by the growth in our U.S. sales force. Our sales people target larger clients who often want us to provide full
    service to them, from placing their orders, to reviewing your submissions to make sure their instructions were followed, to proofreading to make sure there
    are no spelling or grammar mistakes. We call these full-service clients -"managed clients.-" These clients? orders are very different from the orders we?ve
    received historically when we were mostly a self-service platform.
    Managed clients want higher quality content, so we tend to place their orders with our 4- or 5-star authors or create Teams of authors who write well and
    can commit both to deadlines and to following the instructions closely. As a result, we find ourselves constantly looking for authors willing to make those
    two commitments. We have enough managed clients that the authors who can write well and commit to deadlines become well-known in our Las Vegas office and
    will get so many more requests from us in the future that they may never have to go back to the OpenOrder pool again.
    We provide all of this as background for some requests we have of you, which we think will lead to the proverbial -"win-win-win,-" helping us, you and our
    clients. If you have not been to Textbroker in a while and you either are a 4- or 5-star author or you have the capability of becoming one with more focus
    on following instructions and proofreading your work, please visit us as soon as you can. Logging into your account and perusing the Show Orders page or
    the Casting Call Teams - Open For Application tab on the TeamOrders page, you will quickly see what we mean.
    If you have been to Textbroker, we hope you will come back more frequently. Many of our sales clients do an initial test with us, placing a few orders to
    see how we do. While it may not be obvious during this pilot phase, if we do well, that can lead to hundreds or thousands more assignments from that
    client. One of the most important criteria on which we are judged is speed. Meeting the client?s deadline often determines whether the pilot is
    successful. So when we reach out to you to help us with a deadline, know that you are not only going to make some money on that assignment, but you will
    help yourself and all of your fellow authors by increasing the number and variety of assignments we will have available in the future. You will also become
    known as a trusted author, and this will lead to more and more requests from us to join Teams or take on DirectOrders, which often pay more than the typical
    4-star rate.
    When we really need help, we will post on the author forum, accessible from the -"Forum-" link that appears just below the Home tab after you log into your
    account. We created a new section of the forum called Textbroker Priority Assignments. Reading those forum posts and picking up the assignments listed
    there could lead to your being placed on a managed client Team, which could show us that you should be considered one of our go-to authors. Another smart
    idea is to make sure your author profile is complete and filled with the category names and keywords of topics you know well. We do author searches just
    like our clients when we need someone with very specific industry knowledge. You can access your profile from the -"Public Profile-" link that appears just
    below the Account tab from within your author account.
    What if you are a 2- or 3-star author? None of this sounds like good news for you. First, note that when we look to create Teams for managed clients, we
    will look to 3-star authors that we think can adhere to the clients? instructions and who know the subject matter. So if you are a 3-star author that is
    diligent and reliable and the OpenOrder pool does not have a lot of 3-star assignments, check out the Textbroker Priority Assignments forum and look at the
    TeamOrder casting calls, spending time on the writing sample or other requirements for applying. Second, if you do grab an OpenOrder, take more time
    completing it. We understand that time is money, and 2- and 3-star orders do not make financial sense if they take a long time to complete. But one of the
    most gratifying parts of our job is watching authors start at the 2- or 3-star level, hone their writing skills and work their way up to 4- or even 5-star
    quality. Even before the recent change in clients? orders to focus on higher quality writing, we were rooting for you to get those promotions. It?s good
    for all of us to have more 4- and 5-star authors because it means we get the many assignments placed at those levels done more quickly, which leads to even
    more assignments in the future. We try in a number of ways to help you improve, from the comments we provide on your assignments, to the forums where you
    can ask other authors for help with a particular assignment or grammar rule, to our author blog, accessible from the -"Blog-" link on the very bottom of every
    page in your author account. We have also created a dedicated Author Services team this year in Las Vegas, managed by Melissa, who now has four people on
    her team.
     
  14. potentialeight

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    My suggestion would be to do whatever you can to improve your writing so that you can get to a higher level and get jobs that pay better. If you write an Open Order, then you can also send the client a short PM after your piece is accepted mentioning that you accept Direct Orders. This also gives you a chance to put your qualifications out there in front of people involved in industries that you care about.

    If your writing is solid, then you can probably make a little more money than offering your services on Internet marketing forums as a content provider when compared to writing level four jobs. However, you don't have to worry about clients being as unreasonable on TextBroker or not paying you for quality work. I've had multiple disputes with clients with TextBroker who have tried to pull a fast one on me, and TextBroker has taken care of the issue every single time.