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Does this guy know his SEO or did he just buy his position

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by greyninja, Jan 19, 2010.

  1. greyninja

    greyninja Newbie

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    Hey Guys and Gals,

    Just wanted to wish everyone here on this amazing Forum a happy 2010, its already looking to be the most profitable year yet.

    Was browsing the warrior forum the other day and came across a member name Dxniel Molxno (x=a), and saw that he keeps boasting how he was able to get 1st page google ranking for a very competitive term 'business consulting', which he supposidly got in 4 MONTHS.

    He uses that as a sales ploy for all his products, like his newbie book, which in my opinion is not worth the price he is charging. All the info in it is the usual rehashed info, which if you took 10 min searching BHW you could find.

    My question to everyone is this, does he really know his SEO,(which im sure he knows fairly well, but not more than most members here), or did he just buy his way to the top, and what he says on all his sales pages is a bunch of bull$#!*

    Ive done some analysis of his site, and he does have a lot of backlinks, which seem to be a lot of Angelas, forum posting and such.

    Love to hear your thoughts on this ranking and if there is anything special he is doing, or is it just put the money down to buy tons of links.

    GN
     
  2. johney

    johney Registered Member

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    if you put some time and effort in one single keyword it is not that hard to get #1...
    i have a few pretty competitive keywords ranked 1 myself and i do NOT call myself a SEO expert. i know something about it but im NOT an expert. so i guess he isnt too if he has only one keyword ranked 1 in FOUR months lol...
     
  3. greyninja

    greyninja Newbie

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    Ya thats what i was thinking myself, if you focus all your efforts on a keyword, even if it has 30 million pages of competition you can still get ranked on page 1, just takes a lot of backlinks.
     
  4. robertodelgato

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    Whenever I see a question like this, I always think of an old saying that I heard when I was about 5 years old...

    "In the land of the BLIND the ONE EYED MAN is king."

    If someone knows NOTHING about SEO, this guy is a king.

    For someone who's spent more than 20 minutes in one of the SEO forums here (or spent $200 on WSOs), he sounds like a poser.

    Depends on your eye count... :D

    What this ALSO says to me is that the basics work. It's just that they take a LOT of work and time and most people are too lazy to do the work and too poor (or cheap) to outsource it or buy programs to automate it.

     
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    well said robertodelgato... The Day The Earth Stood Still (original version). Ya know, SEO isn't really rocket science, fact is most of everything I know I learned here and then just trail and error. The one thing you MUST HAVE, if you're in a competitive niche is the wherewithall to stick with it.

    Some keywords are easy, some are damn hard, but more than anything else is consistency and never quitting. Of course at some point you have to decide if your efforts are worth the niche, but that's another story.
     
  6. greyninja

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    Like the analogy robert, it all boils down to working to get the links or putting down the cash to outsource the work. He really isnt doing anything special, as you said, 20 min here and you will have more knowledge than he gives, yet he seems to be coming across as an SEO expert, selling crappy books to all the WF newbies.

    Not sure why but he just seemed to bother me, claiming he was this and that.

    Thats a reason why i love BHW so much, so much information, all you have to do is take the time and learn, then put in the action.
     
  7. Hierarchy

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    You can be an expert if you say and think you are an expert. Credibility ads to the factors, yet these days anyone will believe anything they are told if you have a little proof. Then by making others successful at what ever your trying to accomplish your reputation only continues to build. Some of the best seo experts are people hired to do the work for you. However just remember who cares about working harder when you can work smarter ;)...
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  8. monsterclicks

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    Lets be clear on 1 thing.

    I am on the warrior forum but for 1 reason and 1 reason only.

    To sell to newbies!

    Realize the guy is probably doing the exact same thing.
     
  9. greyninja

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    HAHAHA, great point monster, i see where youre coming from. How is that working out for you, ive heard its pretty profitable??
     
  10. hmeister

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    I personally believe that the theory and strategy behind SEO is a piece of piss. In competitive niches we all know you need lots of fresh content and lots of backlinks, the problem is the time it takes to do it and also because most of us have a number of keywords and a number of sites that we are trying to promote and there are only so many hours in the day.

    As someone said earlier, it really isn't rocket science.
     
  11. robertodelgato

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    You can call me OG (Original Gort). :D


     
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    robertodelgato Regular Member

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    I hereby bestow upon you the first "Honest As The Day Is Long (butcountyourchange)" Award of 2010!

    :D

    PS. I fully believe the NEWBIES are on the warrior forum for 1 reason and 1 reason only...

    To remain newbies!

    It's like the fountain of newth!

    Every day/hour there's a better, faster, cheaper, newer, brighter, thinner, sexier, backlinkier way to get it done from $7 to $97!

     
  13. -Jericho-

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    He may be paying people to do a lot of work to help him maintain that position. Remember he is using it as a sales pitch. He has to maintain that position in order to keep selling his products/services. For him it's like an advertising expense that he probably just outsources.

    It all comes down to cost/benefit.
     
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    I believe no one can ever claim to have mastered the art of SEO. There's no 100% guarantee that "the expert" would rank no. 1 of whatsoever. This guy is most probably trying too hard. Remember WSO is all about $
     
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    There's also the concept that it is valid SEO to put a ton of $$$ down to buy links, etc.

    If you've got money and want to buy time and ranking - hell, go for it.

    In a way, that's what our customers do with us. They pay us because they can't do it themselves. :D