Does The "Google Sandbox" Even Exist?

Question: if I take a full minute to put together a nice well written appropriate comment, and have it auto-posted to 10,000 relevant blogs at once.... am I doing a service to the blog operators by contributing good content, or am I spamming them?

Does it not depend on the quality/relevancy of the writing?

What is Google's definition of spam?
 
In all my testing and massive backlinking campaigns, I have never come across any large penalty of any sort.

I see so many people talking about how you can't blast more than a certain number of links at your domains because Google will ban you so on...I think this is ridiculous to be honest.

I think the worst thing Google would ever do is just ignore your site eventually if it is just a bunch of spammy-looking shit and possibly de-index it. But you won't some major ban or penalty.

As far as a "sandbox" goes...from my personal experience, there have been a few times where my sites will "disappear" from the SERPs, but it never lasts long.

In my personal opinion, all the "sandbox" really is basically is Google putting your site on the side for further analysis so to speak because maybe you triggered something that made them want to take a closer look.

In this situation, I never stop what I'm doing. I continue to build links consistently and add good content. This usually works. If I need an extra boost, I also add in some outbound links to quality authority sites.

Just those 3 things is all I have ever needed.

I think a lot of people confuse Google's so-called "dance" with a "sandbox" or penalty, and then stop building links or adding content because of this. This is probably the worst thing you can do.

There's your answer.

Of the new domains I promote, about 25% disappear from the SERPs for up to 3 months, and 75% of these return in strong positions.
 
There's your answer.

Of the new domains I promote, about 25% disappear from the SERPs for up to 3 months, and 75% of these return in strong positions.

i second that. sandbox is just a temporary penalty.
 
So what we are concluding is that ultimately... do whatever the fuck you want as it's going to work out in the end?
 
I've experienced it, so I know it does exist. At the time I was doing massive bookmarking & backling to my sites and they all got deindexed. Some I had to give up on but others came back many, many months later.
It really made me rethink my strategies, now I'm more cautious about bookmarking and backlinking. I never, ever do a lot at one time to my money sites - but I still do sometimes to my backlink blogs, as long as they're free blogs and not on IP's that I host my money sites on.
 
it sure does..... when you look for your exact title and you don't see your site in the first 2 pages it means you've been sandboxed.... the only way you'll find your site is using " ". That's another thing, g00gle wont penalize your entire site, only the pages they don't like. You can have 3 pages penalized and 7 pages ranking in the 1st page of g00gle.
 
I don't know if you call it the sandbox or the slap or whatever. But I think Google does have penalties and they can be fairly large.

I had a friend ranking for a SUPER competitive term, a holy grail type term that was making him a lot of money. He started buying some links (he had never done this before) and one day he got a call from one of his employees talking about a huge traffic drop off.

He was now no where to be seen on Google for his term. For months he was nowhere to be found...

1 year TO THE DAY he was back on front page of Google but not in his (number 1-2 spot anymore).

So maybe it was a coincidence that it was exactly one year - but I am not one to believe in coincidences like that.
 
I don't know if you call it the sandbox or the slap or whatever. But I think Google does have penalties and they can be fairly large.

I had a friend ranking for a SUPER competitive term, a holy grail type term that was making him a lot of money. He started buying some links (he had never done this before) and one day he got a call from one of his employees talking about a huge traffic drop off.

He was now no where to be seen on Google for his term. For months he was nowhere to be found...

1 year TO THE DAY he was back on front page of Google but not in his (number 1-2 spot anymore).

So maybe it was a coincidence that it was exactly one year - but I am not one to believe in coincidences like that.

Well, google really hates paid links. I would bet it's the fact that he paid for links, not because he built too many...
 
I don't know if you call it the sandbox or the slap or whatever. But I think Google does have penalties and they can be fairly large.

I had a friend ranking for a SUPER competitive term, a holy grail type term that was making him a lot of money. He started buying some links (he had never done this before) and one day he got a call from one of his employees talking about a huge traffic drop off.

He was now no where to be seen on Google for his term. For months he was nowhere to be found...

1 year TO THE DAY he was back on front page of Google but not in his (number 1-2 spot anymore).

So maybe it was a coincidence that it was exactly one year - but I am not one to believe in coincidences like that.

Ermmm.......

People on the top few spots for top terms like 'mesothelioma', 'credit cards', 'hosting', 'insurance', 'ass porn' (hahaha)....

Do not fu*k around with paid links, their SEO team are FAAAAAARRRRRRR smarter than you or I (mainly you) and they would not risk their livelihood upon a link work a few K for anything.

Unless your friends term was 'gay guys in their 70's looking for donkey porn in Guatemala' I call
bullshit.

Oh: and to answer the original question; yes it does! I built an awesome sandcastle. It had a moat and everything!

-aReJay
 
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