Does SEO cost money?

SocialManager · Jun 21, 2019

Bigdadddy said:
Sorry but I would like to see the results you achieve d with with so called FREE SEO

The question isn't asking about results. Everyone is so concerned with results. You earned $5k+ and haven't even bought a Jr. VIP Membership...

The question is about showing your fundamental lack of understanding about what SEO is.

Fast Cheap Services said:
do you believe in start from the zero?
of course, it's just the BIG LIE that they pin on your head the truth is that you need to invest money to get money so for SEO it's an investment bro

You don't NEED to invest money to do SEO. You are lying man. The idea that you NEED to spend money on SEO SERVICES to do SEO is a LIE that people selling SEO SERVICES and people who don't know about SEO tell you. That's why so many people are buying SHIT SEO services sold all over the internet, because they actually don't even know what SEO is.

Bigdadddy · Jun 21, 2019

SocialManager said:
The question isn't asking about results. Everyone is so concerned with results. You earned $5k+ and haven't even bought a Jr. VIP Membership...

The question is about showing your fundamental lack of understanding about what SEO is.

If you think buying jrvip here is directly proportional to your SEO Sucess then you are delusional AF .

Results are the ultimate truth you are just salty AF.

BTW This result on MONEY WEBSITE.

PS: Mods I am very HIGH ATM ..... Please ignore any Tantrums by me.

SocialManager · Jun 21, 2019

Bigdadddy said:
If you think buying jrvip here is directly proportional to your SEO Sucess then you are delusional AF .

Results are the ultimate truth you are just salty AF.

BTW This result on MONEY WEBSITE.

It's easy to claim you made lots of money, but it's more difficult to show you actually made lots of money. Jr VIP is one way that you can show you made lots of money.

Clearly you think that SEO means "ranking higher in search results and getting more visitors." That's not what SEO means.

Results of SEO are not proven just by ranking higher for some keywords.

MKSKS · Jun 21, 2019

timothywcrane said:
I have heard that you can do SEO without money, but to have money is better. What do you think?

SEO is a very broad topic, so your question can't be answered in just YES Or NO.
Yes it costs money but not always.
And yes sometimes it costs a hell lot of money.
It depends on many factors mainly: the type of your project, what you are trying to target and achieve (your goals), competition etc......

mhtro · Jun 21, 2019

SocialManager said:
It's easy to claim you made lots of money, but it's more difficult to show you actually made lots of money. Jr VIP is one way that you can show you made lots of money.

Clearly you think that SEO means "ranking higher in search results and getting more visitors." That's not what SEO means.

Results of SEO are not proven just by ranking higher for some keywords.

Dude this is out of your "field of expertise", you claim to be a social media guy or an ORM. All I see you do is get in arguements and be annoying. You never give any valuable points but rather dance around the question. Drop the act of the all knowing, go outside and take some air.

Deleted member 923340 · Jun 21, 2019

To answer OPs question, yes it does.
If someone here says otherwise, they haven't ranked for shit.

Tozzy · Jun 21, 2019

Hurr durr I made $5k

Bigdadddy said:
PS: Mods I am very HIGH ATM ..... Please ignore any Tantrums by me.

Maybe you could also learn not to get so high and angry over some internet trolling as well?

SocialManager said:
It's easy to claim you made lots of money, but it's more difficult to show you actually made lots of money. Jr VIP is one way that you can show you made lots of money.

Bullshit. Jrvip shows you had 97 bucks or whatever the current cost is. Maybe you were struggling to collect this money the whole year and bought the upgrade only in hope to rent your signature out for $30 a month.
I am not saying you did this or you're poor, just an example that demonstrates jr.vip subscription isn't an indicator of the person behind it making lots of money .

SocialManager · Jun 21, 2019

Tozzy said:
Bullshit. Jrvip shows you had 97 bucks or whatever the current cost is. Maybe you were struggling to collect this money the whole year and bought the upgrade only in hope to rent your signature out for $30 a month.
I am not saying you did this or you're poor, just an example that demonstrates jr.vip subscription isn't an indicator of the person behind it making lots of money .

I am saying in his unique situation, if he wants to brag about how much money he made, he should at least upgrade his account.

Again, easy to say you made lots of money, more difficult to make a demonstration. Sure, you can just not want to upgrade your account and not want to support BlackHatWorld, but then you shouldn't come to BlackHatWorld and try to talk shit about how much money you make.

MKSKS said:
SEO is a very broad topic, so your question can't be answered in just YES Or NO.
Yes it costs money but not always.
And yes sometimes it costs a hell lot of money.
It depends on many factors mainly: the type of your project, what you are trying to target and achieve (your goals), competition etc......

His question is do you NEED money to do SEO, or can you do it for free.

Your competition doesn't change whether SEO costs money or not. You are talking about SEARCH RANKINGS, not SEO.

SEO is not SEARCH RANKINGS.

mhtro said:
Dude this is out of your "field of expertise", you claim to be a social media guy or an ORM. All I see you do is get in arguements and be annoying. You never give any valuable points but rather dance around the question. Drop the act of the all knowing, go outside and take some air.

I don't claim to be a social media guy or ORM, why are you just making shit up? I absolutely give tons of valuable points. I never danced around any question at all. Tell me what question I danced around and I will answer it directly. Yeah? Or you are just going to keep making shit up?

WIZDAHL · Jun 21, 2019

SocialManager said:
SEO is not SEARCH RANKINGS.

Bigdadddy · Jun 21, 2019

SocialManager said:
It's easy to claim you made lots of money, but it's more difficult to show you actually made lots of money. Jr VIP is one way that you can show you made lots of money.

Clearly you think that SEO means "ranking higher in search results and getting more visitors." That's not what SEO means.

Results of SEO are not proven just by ranking higher for some keywords.

Soory but I cant take someone giving service like this https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/v...y-socialmanager-monthly-subscription.1124501/

To give me SEO Advice

TheVigilante · Jun 21, 2019

Bigdadddy said:
Soory but I cant take someone giving service like this https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/virtual-assistant-services-by-socialmanager-monthly-subscription.1124501/

To give me SEO Advice

$48 per month pretty much sums it up

Bigdadddy · Jun 21, 2019

Tozzy said:
Maybe you could also learn not to get so high and angry over some internet trolling as well?

Its so much fun to fuck with internet trolls when you are HIGH

SocialManager · Jun 21, 2019

WIZDAHL said:

The fact that you think SEO means "increasing search engine rankings" is proof you don't even know the extreme very basics of SEO.

Bigdadddy said:
Soory but I cant take someone giving service like this https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/v...y-socialmanager-monthly-subscription.1124501/

To give me SEO Advice

I am not giving you SEO advice. I am telling you factually what SEO is. What's your problem with the service I offer? Did you have a bad experience?

TheVigilante said:
$48 per month pretty much sums it up

Does it? How specifically? You guys love to insult and talk shit, but somehow you can never be specific in your insults, and when I ask you for specifics, you never have them. Hmmmmm.

MKSKS · Jun 21, 2019

SocialManager said:
His question is do you NEED money to do SEO, or can you do it for free.

Your competition doesn't change whether SEO costs money or not. You are talking about SEARCH RANKINGS, not SEO.

SEO is not SEARCH RANKINGS.

Well I might not be as knowledgeable as you are about SEO. Frankly speaking I come from a very different background, I stumbled on this forum few years back and then learned about SEO, prior to that i used to outsource it.

What I learned since then has worked great for me so, for me SEO is all about improving SEARCH RANKINGS as long as those rankings brings me traffic for my projects.

Competition does change the SEO costs just because for me SEO is all about improving SEARCH RANKINGS.

I am not here to argue you are better with your "SEO is not SEARCH RANKINGS".

But for me for me SEO is all about improving SEARCH RANKINGS.

supereek · Jun 21, 2019

You can do your own SEO but it will cost you a lot of time. Also SEO is never a short-term game, it takes long to create your own SEO and even longer to see it's effects.

WIZDAHL · Jun 21, 2019

TheVigilante said:
$48 per month pretty much sums it up

Bigdadddy said:
Soory but I cant take someone giving service like this https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/v...y-socialmanager-monthly-subscription.1124501/

To give me SEO Advice

That's a bit harsh and I would say that (the $48 jibe) it's an ad-hominem attack even. There are services available on BHW at every price point which I think is great and props to SocialManager for running such a BST so everyone can benefit from his offerings!

I humbly request everyone in this thread who disagrees with @SocialManager to maintain decorum. We can agree or disagree with each other like adults and we must not resort to taunting or ridiculing our fellow BHW brothers even if we disagree with them.

Everyone has his/her own style of doing SEO and if creating good content works for someone, then good on them!

Let's end this fruitless conversation right here.

Peace and Blessings.

WIZDAHL · Jun 21, 2019

SocialManager said:
The fact that you think SEO means "increasing search engine rankings" is proof you don't even know the extreme very basics of SEO.

Sorry. I won't be replying to anyone on this thread anymore. Just wanted to use that Earl Sinclair GIF. Again, sorry.

swords12 · Jun 21, 2019

timothywcrane said:
I have heard that you can do SEO without money, but to have money is better. What do you think?

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Even if you do all by yourself, you would still need to spend some money for tools to monitor your SEO performance.

Bigdadddy · Jun 21, 2019

SocialManager said:
I am not giving you SEO advice. I am telling you factually what SEO is. What's your problem with the service I offer? Did you have a bad experience?

Sorry man I didnt knew you had mental condition like this So SORRY.......SEND ME YOUR BTC address or PayPal so I can donate for your well being.

BlueBuzzy · Jun 21, 2019

@SocialManager its okay, my dude.

Let’s just all cool down a little bit. If you think you know better, don’t argue with people who will just ignore what you say and argue back. I don’t agree nor disagree with you on the SEO standpoint, but thing started going personal, which shows some members aren’t quite ready for a debate with an opposing view on the subject.

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