Does sandbox per keyword exist for bigger kws?

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hatfromthewilds

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By bigger kws i mean anything above 5k volume monthly.


Some keywords without any links I have on #14.... And I surpass sites like reddit etc. volume 10-400

Any main keyword above 5k volume, i have done super optimization, made many related links.. im not
even in top 200 for that keyword !!! wtf? and literally barely related blogs and reddit are on pages 3-6, but im noWHERE to be FOUND!?

(PS, not overoptimization)

im sorry but total crap sites that have less link power and are not related at all, are on pages 3-6. but i dont even rank for that kw in top 200, it doesnt display in wmt despite longtails with that kw ranking eg for kw "best <main kw> in 2019" im ranking somewhere but not for main kw


i did read rankxl course he said i will rank for longtails before main kws - i assume this is what he meant

anyway so i just have to wait? is this sandbox for big kws? why is that? because of age of my site?


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I saw you said "majority of my kws left sandbox already" could you elaborate? what should I do?

I have one domain year old that is redirected to this one. this domain is like half year old. Im sure i have relevancy and link power but i still im not even in top 200. This must be sandbox. Just not sure how much should i wait
 
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In my opinion, either you have over-optimized (you need to cross-check it; maybe you see it as not over-optimized but actually it is) OR you have some problems with SILO on your website.

You said... less worthy sites are in top ranks. Many times I have seen that for some specific keywords (mostly in the pharma industry; keywords like Viagra etc) either super-authority sites like Wikipedia or formally recognized institution site rank on top or some random article or forum post or just spam page rank. So, see if your main keyword is not like Viagra things.

If this is the case, then you need to present and prove yourself as an authority who is well recognized and accepted. Maybe some laboratory that genuinely does experiments. I don't know.

There is NO such thing as keyword specific sandbox.
 
VinodChaudhary said:
In my opinion, either you have over-optimized (you need to cross-check it; maybe you see it as not over-optimized but actually it is) OR you have some problems with SILO on your website.

You said... less worthy sites are in top ranks. Many times I have seen that for some specific keywords (mostly in the pharma industry; keywords like Viagra etc) either super-authority sites like Wikipedia or formally recognized institution site rank on top or some random article or forum post or just spam page rank. So, see if your main keyword is not like Viagra things.

If this is the case, then you need to present and prove yourself as an authority who is well recognized and accepted. Maybe some laboratory that genuinely does experiments. I don't know.

There is NO such thing as keyword specific sandbox.
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after i counted, this domain domain exists since 7/24/9 and shauns domain exists since month after that if what he says is true

but he made way more articles, and more links. MEH

i do have silo but its rather well made
 
In my experience its just a time limit that takes 4-8 months but your keyword difficulty comes into it too. If the keyword you have targeted is high competition then you will need a bunch of backlinks to make it climb too. Additionally, it could be something to do with your niche where you might not have a chance of ranking for it for years if it is medial or payday loan related due to needing authority and trust.
 
Shaunm said:
In my experience its just a time limit that takes 4-8 months but your keyword difficulty comes into it too. If the keyword you have targeted is high competition then you will need a bunch of backlinks to make it climb too. Additionally, it could be something to do with your niche where you might not have a chance of ranking for it for years if it is medial or payday loan related due to needing authority and trust.
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its tech niche
 
I have the same problem as you :(
Most of my keywords do not appear in the top 200 on Google. I really don't know why
I used the expired domain to build a money site so the backlinks, Age, History everything is well.
For example, I chose a low-competitive keyword: Volume: 1k , KD(kwfinder): 14. On top 10 include Pinterest and Youtube. This article about 2k4 words
Hope someone has some helpful advice
 
Mr.Never said:
I have the same problem as you :(
Most of my keywords do not appear in the top 200 on Google. I really don't know why
I used the expired domain to build a money site so the backlinks, Age, History everything is well.
For example, I chose a low-competitive keyword: Volume: 1k , KD(kwfinder): 14. On top 10 include Pinterest and Youtube. This article about 2k4 words
Hope someone has some helpful advice
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how many articles and links you have?

did you mainly make profile links?
 
hatfromthewilds said:
how many articles and links you have?

did you mainly make profile links?
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as I said, I used an expired domain. Most backlinks are in articles from related blogs and websites. I just added some backlinks from blog comments and profiles but trivial.
Currently, I have 13 Posts and 10 Pages. :) I published the first article on November 20th
 
Mr.Never said:
as I said, I used an expired domain. Most backlinks are in articles from related blogs and websites. I just added some backlinks from blog comments and profiles but trivial.
Currently, I have 13 Posts and 10 Pages. :) I published the first article on November 20th
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seems you didnt do anything suspicious maybe except using expired domain. I didnt use expired domain though. So perhaps this sandbox is for every domain that is entering a niche. and lasts about half year and more.
 
hatfromthewilds said:
seems you didnt do anything suspicious maybe except using expired domain. I didnt use expired domain though. So perhaps this sandbox is for every domain that is entering a niche. and lasts about half year and more.
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How long have you bought this domain? and how many article you have?
 
Mr.Never said:
How long have you bought this domain? and how many article you have?
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i bought domain in july and my first webmaster console data is from july as well. Its not expired domain. I have 25 articles and 150 referring domains. Im making more links now because i dont like writing lol. I need only about 1k visitors per day and that can be done with two keywords ranking. I will keep making links until i get about 250 visitors daily. then ill mass write articles. now i get 20 visits daily from organic.


probably to get 250 visitors per day with my current articles i need like 400 referring domains..
 
hatfromthewilds said:
i bought domain in july and my first webmaster console data is from july as well. Its not expired domain. I have 25 articles and 150 referring domains. Im making more links now because i dont like writing lol. I need only about 1k visitors per day and that can be done with two keywords ranking. I will keep making links until i get about 250 visitors daily. then ill mass write articles. now i get 20 visits daily from organic.


probably to get 250 visitors per day with my current articles i need like 400 referring domains..
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how competitive are your keywords? can you take a screenshot of your current keyword rankings?
of course obscure the keyword part
 
Shaunm said:
Then its probably the keywords you are targeting are too hard for the off page SEO that you are doing.
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ye man they are hard to make.. i was making about 5 links per week but thats not eonugh. i will try about 10links daily or more, but even that will take ages
 
hatfromthewilds said:
ye man they are hard to make.. i was making about 5 links per week but thats not eonugh. i will try about 10links daily or more, but even that will take ages
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Keep in mind though, its not just your link count. You have to look at the power of these links, if these links are do follow or not, if these links can be indexed in Google or not, and to some extent if the link will show in webmaster tools. Although that last one is just a personal thing and I have no evidence to back it up, I have a number of links indexed in Google that are months old but are not showing up in my webmaster tools for the domain. Kind of makes me wonder if there is something wrong with the link and if it is passing link juice or worth having.
 
Shaunm said:
Keep in mind though, its not just your link count. You have to look at the power of these links, if these links are do follow or not, if these links can be indexed in Google or not, and to some extent if the link will show in webmaster tools. Although that last one is just a personal thing and I have no evidence to back it up, I have a number of links indexed in Google that are months old but are not showing up in my webmaster tools for the domain. Kind of makes me wonder if there is something wrong with the link and if it is passing link juice or worth having.
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my links mainly show in webmaster tools

i unfortunately mainly do noff.ollow links because if i get dof.ollow link it will have PA 0 so thats weak a bit . i did boost my webs 20 with gsa but gsa links i didnt manage to index them


PS i also worried about links not showing in WMT in the past but that was when i was making profiles
 
VinodChaudhary said:
In my opinion, either you have over-optimized (you need to cross-check it; maybe you see it as not over-optimized but actually it is) OR you have some problems with SILO on your website.

You said... less worthy sites are in top ranks. Many times I have seen that for some specific keywords (mostly in the pharma industry; keywords like Viagra etc) either super-authority sites like Wikipedia or formally recognized institution site rank on top or some random article or forum post or just spam page rank. So, see if your main keyword is not like Viagra things.

If this is the case, then you need to present and prove yourself as an authority who is well recognized and accepted. Maybe some laboratory that genuinely does experiments. I don't know.

There is NO such thing as keyword specific sandbox.
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You said i could have silo problem. Could you elaborate? Before i thought my silo is good but now i think it can be poorly made
 
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