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Does Negative SEO exist in 2016?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by kittykut, Jul 29, 2016.

  1. kittykut

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    Is there any possibility of using negative SEO on competitors to derank them in 2016?

    has anyone seen this happen?
     
  2. jstover77

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    Of course it still exist, it's just more sophisticated than it was before (or resource intensive).

    Why do you ask?

    The only reason you should be even considering neg SEO is if you are doing ORM and it's justified. Otherwise, don't do that. It's a waste of time and resources. You're better off putting that effort into ranking your own properties.
     
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  3. Moabaer

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    If it's possible to get yourself deranked or out of the index it's possible to do that for your competitors as well so yes, negative SEO exists
     
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  4. kittykut

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    i am sorry, but what is ORM?
     
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    Exactly. Newer sites are much more vulnerable. Once you get that authority, it's much harder to Neg SEO a website.
     
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    Yes *cough* strezz3rs *cough*

    ORM = online reputation management
     
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  7. jstover77

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    Sorry, "Online Reputation Management". I should have just said "Rep Management".
     
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    I don't want to get into too much detail on this subject but short answer: YES.

    Negative SEO is very much working in 2016 (from plenty of experience and personal tests).
     
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    yes, yes and yes.

    especially when you have annoying cometition
     
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    of course it exists. all is same as before
     
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    you better believe it son

    here are some in no order of importance or effectiveness

    ddos
    deindexed domains links
    deindexed domain 301
    spammed domains 301 / links
    mass dfollow links
    defacing
    injecting malware / creating dupe content internally
    mass 404 creation
    etc
     
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    yes it's existed , and some people use this tick to challenge their competitors
     
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    It still works, just not from blasting with million of links.

    PS: Wow congratz on turning white @jstover77 :D
     
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    I like these ideas, thanks
     
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    Exactly. IMHO, new sites are at huge risk for negative SEO, even cheap and easy stuff like mass GSA links. Older, authority sites are at minimal risk.

    I believe there's an "authority threshold" after which Google largely ignores spammy links instead of penalizing for them. When it comes to an authority site, the amount of money and effort needed to hurt the site is hardly worth it (e.g., trying to increase their proportion of ******** money anchor text links), you're better off building your competing site instead.

    I think this is in a state of flux, though. A year ago, an authority site could seriously hurt itself with too much spammy conduct. At the moment, authority sites can more easily adopt spammy techniques themselves and see benefits. The pendulum will probably swing back at some point.
     
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    An authority site only hurts itself with spammy content. Links don't matter once you get into the good graces.

    Good post...totally agree. If you ever want to talk theory, hit me up on Skype.
     
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    for sure it exists. I've had numerous websites of mine negatively seo'd because of competition. Sad world we live in.
     
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    Yes it exist. But it's a waste of time to do negative seo for competitors. At the mean time, we can improve our site. Negative SEO occurs when someone makes attempt to lower a site's rankings in the search engines. But many of them doing negative seo for their competitors site to derank their site.
     
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    You can but if you do you are the scum of the earth. If you do this quit being an asshole and work on your own site instead of ruining other peoples hard work.
     
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    Yes it's exist