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Does Google classify this kind of Javascript as a Backlink?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by verilix, Sep 19, 2013.

  1. verilix

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    <script language="JavaScript">
    var popunder="http://www.mywebsite.com/"
    function loadpopunder(){
    win2=window.open(popunder)
    win2.blur()
    window.focus()
    }
    loadpopunder()
    </script>
    
    It's a popunder. When people visit my website, the popunder pops up in a separate window. Will Google crawl that? And does it count as a backlink? The website in question is penalized and I'm trying to send traffic off of it without redirecting.

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    won't count as backlink.
     
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    I don't see how it could be classified as deceptive though. It's just a Javascript popunder - people sell these kinds of things all the time. It's not hidden in colored text; it's not 1px in size; nothing like that. I just couldn't get the popunder to display any other way other than Javascript.
     
  5. dinkish

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    Crawling and counting as a backlink are two seperate things.

    I don't know if you're gunning for expedited indexing, or traffic, but you won't get more than one backlink, if that from it, unlike a 301. Google can crawl through javascript, I doubt you'll find in what circumstances they will though, as they aren't exactly forth coming with specific information like that.
     
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    No indexing required. The domain I placed the popunder on was getting 50,000 unique views/day. It got hit by a SAPE penalty recently. So I figured - the traffic was declining rapidly. I have several websites in the niche. 301ing the SAPE penalized domain would penalize the other website as well, so I figured: Why not use a popunder and have it open in a new tab? No redirects, no backlinks, should be no penalty. At least, that's what I'm hoping and/or asking.

    So yeah.. will the other website be penalized from the Javascript popunder? And if so, could I not just place 10 of my competitors into a popunder and penalize all of them as well?

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    Google does crawl it and it sees it as a link from the page that has that JS to the popped-under page.

    In one of my experiments I had a banner with some smart-ass Javascript code attached to it. It rendered something graphical on the page. To my surprise webmaster tools showed it as a link!
     
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    Hmm. The website(s) in question are all streaming websites. Tens of thousands of pages indexed. So you're saying since the popunder appears on every page, I'll have tens of thousands of links from the penalized domain pointing to the unpenalized one? That sucks. Thanks for the info though.

    Does anyone else have any input/experience with this?
     
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    I think I know how they detected my "link". The Chrome browser is a snitch.
     
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    To vaguely elaborate on my first point, I'd be surprised if it wasn't shown as a backlink. It's been a while since Google was "unable" (didn't see necessity or have interest) in crawling hyperlinks from javascript.
     
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    [COLOR=#FFFFCC]var popunder="http://www.mywebsite.com/"[/COLOR]
    Classfied as a hyperlink though? There's no a href tag.
     
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    There's no A tag, I meant backlink, as it's not anchored itself.

    It's the same "main-stream" concept as using images with alt and to a lesser extent title tags within an img, but to a lesser emphasis of captions or external references.

    For obvious exploitation reasons, Google needed to up their shit. There revenue is at stake otherwise, and that was years ago.

    Googlebot fetches, it doesn't simply index, it puts it into a massive queue, and eventually from there it can be sorted into a criteria of booleans from already other pre-fetched data (likely a back and forth from other "bots"). Comparing data from there and move forth beyond a preliminary it can "decide" whether it's worthy of being processed forward to "the" algorithm".

    "The days" of javascript and flash links not be interpretable are likely if not as far gone as same font color\bg color. JS won't transfer all backlinks, but the real question becomes how shitty does that "one domain" back link need to be before Google penalizes it?
     
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    yes. i think i know that.
    pm me
     
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    If anyone disbelieves this, feel free to place a case study to correct me, just as a backlink can move forth with an img so can "non-standard" backlinks. Hardly a 301/302, but I'd think Google would weigh exponentially backlinks from abused domains, a penalty to prevent repeats (or perhaps this is just forward thinking\a conspiracy theory).
     
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    What about 301'ing to something like Adfly/Linkbucks, then having the "Skip ad" button lead to the new site? Since Adfly/Linkbucks would be the website being 301'd to. Not sure if anyone has tried that.