Does Canonical pass down the penalty

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So a canonical passes down link juice to the tagged url (pretty much or entirely like how a 301 does), but does it also pass down penalty?
 
Interested in knowing the answer as well ...

Any 301 experts ?
 
Any link that passes juice will pass a penalty, therefore a canonical will pass the penalty.

Linking penalised sites to non penalised sites even through a nofollow is a practice best avoided. Admit defeat, forget the penalised site & start again.
 
Any link that passes juice will pass a penalty, therefore a canonical will pass the penalty.

I don't consider this to be accurate - otherwise I'd just link a penalized site and, hey presto, I've tanked whoever I link to. Not so logical, that one.
 
I don't consider this to be accurate - otherwise I'd just link a penalized site and, hey presto, I've tanked whoever I link to. Not so logical, that one.

Can I ask a question? If I set a canonical tag on a post, will it take the link juice of where it came from and not just the post? Example the post is on the homepage, would it inherit the link juice from the home page or from the single post only? Gonna build myself a private army of canonical-ed pages and see what happens :)
 
Interested in knowing the answer as well ...
Any 301 experts ?
Hi I tried Redirect Twice
First with automatic penalty from google algorithm an I succeed the visitors raised .
Second was with Manual Action And the Penalty passed to the new site .
So 301 redirect are depending in what penalty you got .
 
After testing this canonical vs 301 on penalized sites (over 20) we can definitively say this is not something you'll want to waste much time on. Google passes penalty on both redirects AND rel=canonical.
 
I am been reading info about canonical and in most of the cases, they say it act same as 301.
It would be interesting to see if someone has any experience with this.
 
I've got two of my sites hit with manual penalty saying site-wide matches and unnatural links.So is there any way out using 301 or Canonical ? Generally how much time does google takes to catch the new site if i redirected to penalized site to new one ? What if i redirect the penalized site to new one and revert the canonical after 3 weeks which i think is the time google takes to catch me and again after one week canonical to new site ?
 
I don't consider this to be accurate - otherwise I'd just link a penalized site and, hey presto, I've tanked whoever I link to. Not so logical, that one.

Nah, he's right. a 301 does indeed pass a penalty. You should not redirect a domain with a link penalty to the new one. You apply the penalty to the new domain.
 
I've got two of my sites hit with manual penalty saying site-wide matches and unnatural links.So is there any way out using 301 or Canonical ? Generally how much time does google takes to catch the new site if i redirected to penalized site to new one ? What if i redirect the penalized site to new one and revert the canonical after 3 weeks which i think is the time google takes to catch me and again after one week canonical to new site ?

You have to break the 301 connection. Break the 301 and file a reconsideration request.
 
So for example... Cant you just pass a link penatly to lets say sarchengineland.com or another site with high PR?
What would happen then?
 
Apologize to bump this 5 years old thread.
Does Canonical pass down the penalty?
 
In google vendetta against @dejanseo they let slip not only can they canonicalise duplicate content now (for their friends) they can also pass a penalty through canonicalisation here's from the horses mouth:

"Just to state the obvious, since the sites are the same, Google will treat them the same & pick a canonical for the combined signals. You don't necessarily need to do a 301 to have it be seen as a site move." JohnMu

I say vendetta because under normal circumstances the canonical would just pass a zero score but this case they are saying they will pass a manual action through the canonical content. All because of his twitter tweet.
 
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So a canonical passes down link juice to the tagged url (pretty much or entirely like how a 301 does), but does it also pass down penalty?
I have never heard of anyone being penalised for having it on every page. Plus I can't see that ever happening unless it has been implemented incorrectly of course.
 
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