Man...i occasionally skim that forum to see if there is anything interesting but my *** it;s getting more and more pathetic. In the WSO section you have supposedly millionaires in I.M. so desperate for $1k to $5k. Absolute crazy statements like guaranteed to make you XXX$ thousands or i'll pay you $1k back..no work on your behalf, 1) No business can ever guarantee anything 2) It requires a hard worker and fairly intelligent person to run a business (strange on the net i see very few of these calibre people) 3) even if they weren't spouting B*S* by revealing their system on one platform, thousands would jump in and copy it..and it will kill if it off fast. Things like SELLING ON amazon, ebay,adsense - 1 system methods on one platform. 4) Nothing lasts for-ever. You produce a great site, product/service...you better not rest on your laurels as everything is time limited. More so on the Internet. No-one ever seems to stop and think about this...too desperate? Even when you point this out to the desperate/newbies/gullible...they put up their defences and go ahead anyway. Does anyone but desperate and newbies actually believe this any-more? I understand pre 2008 there were many newbies flooding in that believed the hype....but come on. That place now reminds me of one giant MLM party. "Dream, believe, don't question and don't listen..just buy.."