Does anyone have good experience with Telegram crypto pumps groups?

Nothing is certain. It's just a game of pumping and dumping .
I never buy any groups which are related to pump and signals .
I always use skills and experience for buying/selling and trading .

I do have, what u need??

No, but stay away. Most of them are scam and only groups operators will benefit. That's the main reason why the stock pump and dump is illegal in most countries.

OP, I was reading your threads and you provide exceptional value and methods. I love them and will try the latest one myself. Crypto and web3 is my domain so I'll try to reciprocate and provide as much value as I can to your question. Let's start.

I've been active in the crypto degen space on TG and Discord for more than a year now ( I develop and market ICOs and signals on TG).

I have participated and made people participate in pumps and dumps. There are two types of groups in there.

1. Legit PnDs
2. Scam PnDs

Here's the summary of what happens in both of them,

1. Legit PnDs

• Owner side activity
  • Identify an exchange to carry out PND. These are exchanges that have little trading volume. i.e Hotbit. These exchanges don't have much liquidity therefore you can only buy and sell on limit orders and not on market orders ( I hope you know what this means )
  • Identify a coin on the exchange which they start accumulating over time. Usually, it's within days. They accumulate it in cents.
  • Push the coin to their audience on the pump time.
• Audience Side Activity
  • The audience or the members of the group get the coin's name.
  • They go on the exchange to buy it.
  • They have to place limit orders to buy based on the lowest amount in the order book. ( Bid and Ask prices)
  • Everyone just buys and the sell orders are filled.
• Summary
  • The owners of the group have already accumulated and now have a sell order like 30x 40x above the price the token initially pumped from.
    I,e I bought 5000 tokens @ $0.1 on average. I placed a limit sell order for 5000 tokens at $3 price.
  • Between .1 to 3, Let's say there are only 10 orders that are selling for $ .2 .3 .5 .9 1 1.2 1.6 1.9 2.5 and the total tokens for sale are like 500. So we could say, that on average the 500 tokens are worth 300$ in buying volume.
  • Now when everyone's buying, they quickly take the price to $3 COMPLETELY WIPING out the orders in between. At 3, there is a BIG SELL ORDER which I placed. Mathematically $15000 is to be filled. THIS IS OUR PUMP.
  • The price WILL not go higher until all the tokens are bought at $3.
  • Let's say all my orders got fulfilled. And I have 15000 USDT. Good for me.
  • At this point in time, the buying pressure stops, and sell pressure starts as everyone who bought is now selling because they have to make money. They will NEVER as there's NO DEMAND at $3.
  • This effectively drives the price down and the ones that bought higher get stuck forever. This is our DUMP.
  • Then the owners just post "WOHOOO 3000% Pump let's go". Where in reality. It could have been done with a $300 buying volume.
    
• Aftermath: Only the owners and a select few with good internet connections that managed to buy early make some money.

2. Scam PnDs
This is worse than the first one.

1. Create a discord account and fill it up with fake members to showcase the "Strength" of buyers whenever they pump anything.
2. Create a FAKE exchange with real trading charts and whatnot. This is your main asset as you'll be pumping a coin out of nowhere in it and showing a wick whenever anyone wants to see it. Since it's just code, you can create a candle of 1 minute with a 30x price, and the next candle just back to where it was trading.
3. This exchange looks real and lets you trade with proper pricing and everything. But it's fake. You can send money in it but can NEVER get it out from the exchange.
4. Market yourself by saying that we give the coin name 3 minutes before so ONLY OUR GROUP members can buy first and then we shill to others and bla bla.
5. Put people in discord the give fake hype and everything.
6. Make money off greedy and dumb people by making them believe it and transfer money to your BTC, ETH, or LTC wallets.

VERY SIMPLE.

The only way to make money in PnDs is to run the whole show. That's it.

Also, OP. I read your post about needing help with TG members/marketing. I can't reply to that thread so if you are still interested or have any JV approach in mind. I'd love to connect with you. Please shoot me a message here or on TG: @TahaTheMirza

IamTahaMirza said:

OP, I was reading your threads and you provide exceptional value and methods. I love them and will try the latest one myself. Crypto and web3 is my domain so I'll try to reciprocate and provide as much value as I can to your question. Let's start.

I've been active in the crypto degen space on TG and Discord for more than a year now ( I develop and market ICOs and signals on TG).

I have participated and made people participate in pumps and dumps. There are two types of groups in there.

1. Legit PnDs
2. Scam PnDs

Here's the summary of what happens in both of them,

1. Legit PnDs

• Owner side activity
  • Identify an exchange to carry out PND. These are exchanges that have little trading volume. i.e Hotbit. These exchanges don't have much liquidity therefore you can only buy and sell on limit orders and not on market orders ( I hope you know what this means )
  • Identify a coin on the exchange which they start accumulating over time. Usually, it's within days. They accumulate it in cents.
  • Push the coin to their audience on the pump time.
• Audience Side Activity
  • The audience or the members of the group get the coin's name.
  • They go on the exchange to buy it.
  • They have to place limit orders to buy based on the lowest amount in the order book. ( Bid and Ask prices)
  • Everyone just buys and the sell orders are filled.
• Summary
  • The owners of the group have already accumulated and now have a sell order like 30x 40x above the price the token initially pumped from.
    I,e I bought 5000 tokens @ $0.1 on average. I placed a limit sell order for 5000 tokens at $3 price.
  • Between .1 to 3, Let's say there are only 10 orders that are selling for $ .2 .3 .5 .9 1 1.2 1.6 1.9 2.5 and the total tokens for sale are like 500. So we could say, that on average the 500 tokens are worth 300$ in buying volume.
  • Now when everyone's buying, they quickly take the price to $3 COMPLETELY WIPING out the orders in between. At 3, there is a BIG SELL ORDER which I placed. Mathematically $15000 is to be filled. THIS IS OUR PUMP.
  • The price WILL not go higher until all the tokens are bought at $3.
  • Let's say all my orders got fulfilled. And I have 15000 USDT. Good for me.
  • At this point in time, the buying pressure stops, and sell pressure starts as everyone who bought is now selling because they have to make money. They will NEVER as there's NO DEMAND at $3.
  • This effectively drives the price down and the ones that bought higher get stuck forever. This is our DUMP.
  • Then the owners just post "WOHOOO 3000% Pump let's go". Where in reality. It could have been done with a $300 buying volume.
• Aftermath: Only the owners and a select few with good internet connections that managed to buy early make some money.

2. Scam PnDs
This is worse than the first one.

1. Create a discord account and fill it up with fake members to showcase the "Strength" of buyers whenever they pump anything.
2. Create a FAKE exchange with real trading charts and whatnot. This is your main asset as you'll be pumping a coin out of nowhere in it and showing a wick whenever anyone wants to see it. Since it's just code, you can create a candle of 1 minute with a 30x price, and the next candle just back to where it was trading.
3. This exchange looks real and lets you trade with proper pricing and everything. But it's fake. You can send money in it but can NEVER get it out from the exchange.
4. Market yourself by saying that we give the coin name 3 minutes before so ONLY OUR GROUP members can buy first and then we shill to others and bla bla.
5. Put people in discord the give fake hype and everything.
6. Make money off greedy and dumb people by making them believe it and transfer money to your BTC, ETH, or LTC wallets.

VERY SIMPLE.

The only way to make money in PnDs is to run the whole show. That's it.

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Thank you for your comment I appreciate it,
I checked about Telegram few months ago but I decided to leave it.
Thank you anyway I appreciate it!

Never try one, and don't believe it have other use than you make your own group and earn $$$ from it. That is their main earning anyway. Joining other help you automate the signal

Based on my experience in the past, the only way to earn from these groups is to short the token at the time they said they're going pump.

You cannot make money with the information shared in these groups. The people who will make money with these groups are the group owners.

The best thing to do is join a couple groups and just watch all the new tokens they post and then open up the charts and look back.

in most cases you will find the group owners buy the coin like a day before. Then they have like a domino effect where they have a couple big boys who pay them a monthly fee (These are the guys who create the actual pump) They usually buy a couple hours before.


when the group announces they are buying a new coin the owners and the big boys are selling whilst you are buying.


the pump from your perspective only lasts 3 minutes or so but for the owners and big boys they was involved at the very beginning.

if you work it out in most cases the PUMP is for them and the DUMP is for you. Think realistically who else are they going to be dumping on except you? Because there not dumping on themselves

There needs to be people to dump on for this to work and unless your a owner or the big boy then your pretty much stuffed