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Dodging Webmd and mayoclinic in Health Niches

Discussion in 'Clickbank' started by Keyboarding, Feb 4, 2015.

  1. Keyboarding

    Keyboarding Regular Member

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    Hey,


    I'm looking into ClickBank and after reading mancar's threads and comments he suggested staying within the Health Niche.

    But after google searching a few keywords that looked promising in adwords/moz, the search results are filled with either google's quick summary and or webmd/massive online health resources such as mayoclinic.


    Do I just have to keep digging for keywords and hopefully come around a term or is this unavoidable now.
     
  2. Keyboarding

    Keyboarding Regular Member

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    If I even do this I'll probably just have to get traffic through forums, its going to take forever to find a long tail that doesn't pull anything
     
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  3. lilmasta

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    did you tried searching with product name ? for example: buy keyword online or where to buy keyword online ?, keyword reviews , keyword side effects , keyword scams , keyword alternatives
     
  4. rjd1265

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    Where did Mancar say this?

    I have a hard time he would say to stay in a health niche as he is big into promoting products with low gravity (which health products are not)

    There are certain methods where high gravity works such as solo ads as you are not competing with keywords or rankings......

    Let me know where he said this and I will check it out to see if you misunderstood what he was trying to say

    Ryan
     
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    It's not just about Webmd or Mayoclinic, for most good terms you should be expecting authority websites to be on the top ten.

    It's only a few terms that you may get some space and see low authority sites ranking between position 1 to 10.

    If you really want to stay in that market then such keywords are what you should capitalize on and also work towards making your site an authority.

    It's going to cost you money, time and effort but it's very rewarding if you can rank a few good keywords.
     
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  6. rjd1265

    rjd1265 Regular Member

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    To what John1444 said just because you rank #1 in a competitive niche for high searched keyword does not mean money in the bank

    If you ranked #1 for "fat" which gets tons of searches a month I bet the sales would be bleak....as the KW "fat" has virtually no commercial value.


    I gave up SEO a long time ago. I would rather spend $500 testing Bing Ads or Adwords to find my profitable keywords than to spend months..and money trying to rank my site...only to have Google slap the shit out of you down the road thus sending your website to page 10.

    Unless you build an actual site, with tons of original content, helpful links and have links back to you, your site will unlikely be on page 1 (now easy keywords can be done quicker with good results but they are easy to rank for because they make no money)
     
  7. Keyboarding

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    From this thread, I actually posted asking for clarification but he hasn't been on it to check.
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...e-cb-products-newbies-5-minute-guide.html#top


    "So, here's how to find good products to product on CB if you a newbie:

    Search the marketplace for products with gravities 5 to 25. Trust me on this. You can find a lot of these goldmines in the health section of CB. Ignore products that have a gravity in this range BUT are in a very popular niche (e.g. weight loss and make money online - as this defeats the purpose of searching for low competition niches). "



    I'mgoing to relax on my SEO standards and just do something. I feel like it's holding me back and scaring me away especially when it's probably irrelevant.
     
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  8. syntaxed

    syntaxed Junior Member

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    Thanks OP. I've been wondering about this as well. Hope to get some clarification too
     
  9. mancar487

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    Hi buddy,

    It is indeed hard to outrank these sites on the main keywords (e.g. XYZ cure; though it is very possible to outrank them on long tails), however, you do not have to.


    These sites usually give a description of the problem, symptoms, epidemiology, etc... but usually touch only briefly on treatment (solution) and mainly state that you should speak to a dermatologist/endocrinologist/cardiologist/etc... Therefore, people looking for information (non-buyers) will go to these sites and be happy with the information. However, people looking for SOLUTIONS (buyers) will not find what they are looking for on these sites, and will therefore go deeper into the search results, where your site may be.


    Mancar
     
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  10. Keyboarding

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    Solid reply, that does makes sense. I'm still starting a CB journey but I'll stay away from the health niche, I feel like the effort to get the long tails will still be annoying. Because, they have to search the right term, ignore the instant info and then make it to my site. I'll do it when I'm able to be more targeted.
     
  11. Freddyjames

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    You need to target long-tail keywords instead of the popular keywords, which are almost always doninated by aged authority sites with huge amounts of links.

    For instance, if you set up a site about mental health, the keyword "depression" is searched for every 27 seconds in the UK alone - and is obviously dominated by huge medical sites. However "natural depression remedies" has a much lower competition and will be far easier to rank in the top 10 for.

    If you can manage to set up a 30 page site, with each page pulling in 100 organic visitors a day from targeted longtails, you are getting a very healthy amount of traffic - it equates to over a million visitors a year.

    Yes, it's a lot of effort to build a site like this, but the long-term rewards are huge.
     
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  12. Abcxyz77

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    I think you should sell medicine or health product in amazon instead of book of CB, that's just my opinion. A book can cure desease? what a joke!
     
  13. Shadeofblack

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    Why not piggy back of the websites that are already ranking for these keywords? Try media buying on these sites and link back to your affiliate page/offer?
     
  14. Abcxyz77

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    You mean buy expired domain with back link?
     
  15. Sanjay73

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    You need to just target anyone who is interested in remedies or "natural health" information. Bottom line is some people are very into educating themselves and seeking out alternatives and others are of the mindset "Internet is bad. Let me go tough it out with my Doctor".

    I just run ads and get them onto my optin page. It doesn't really matter. They'll be interested in all sorts of stuff (including weird stuff - like an ebook on coconut oil!).

    It doesn't all have to be outranking and getting to #1 in Google.
     
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    Promote products with gravities of 150+. They sell themselves.