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Do you have this disease... The Repeaties?!?!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by team74, Aug 3, 2012.

  1. team74

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    Ok so I've noticed a lot of repeating scenarios across the IM/blackhat world.

    People want to make money quickly, but they get terrible advise from otherwise great info sources, such as blackhatworld where there is so much good info, and then when people ask questions about link building, some idiot dodo-face says something like:

    "Don't SEO new site, Google think bad... baaaah!"

    These people are called Sheeple. They suffer from a disease called the repeaties. They hear stuff a few times, and just like the sheep from Animal Farm they just start spraying it on forums, and at anyone who will listen to them. Check it out it's a pretty horrible affliction:

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    So, there's a few common misconceptions I want to address:

    1. SeNukeX doesn't work (or any web2.0s/article building)
    2. forum profile links don't work
    3. new sites are hard to SEO


    1.
    SenukeX DOES well, and work well it does. The issue is that people are using 2010 strategies. Tier one (that is, content linking directly to your money pages) needs to be more unique. Having the same number of:

    • paragraphs
    • links in the same place in all the content
    • images
    • and using the same anchor text

    are all problems. Notice how I could specify these problems? If I can say "same number of paragraphs", can Google make a filter for that? Yes they can! Can " the same anchors" be classed as a rule, yes it can!

    The solution to better tier one content is in making content that cannot be grouped by such rules. The 4 examples I listed earlier can each be addressed like this:

    • paragraphs - use the http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/link-building/466869-get-title-adder-senukex.html to pull multiple txt files of content, all with different paragraph/sentence numbers.
    • links in the same place in all the content - same as above. If you are injecting your links, then use Content Spiffer, which is the best text manipulation tool available.
    • images - USe multiple spin, and use "zero spin" syntax, like {image one|image 2||||} the last 4 spins yield no result, meaning, only 1/3 of the spin will show an image. Do this 2-4 times in an article to get wildly different image spins per senukex run.
    • and using the same anchor text - This one is pretty self explanatory. I go for:

    Exact Match Keyword 20%
    Phrase Match 40%
    Generic Anchor Text 15%
    Naked Links (plain URLs) 25%

    Some people I know go for 30/50/0/20 (from the order above). Try something and see if it works for you, this is what works for me.

    2.
    Forum links still work. The problem is most people are using lazy services (I spent $200 on one, and still got shit links), or they're lazy themselves.... Baaaahhh!

    You get forum links indexed by adding more content. You'll notice on a forum profile page, there are many fields, this is true on many platforms (VBulletin etc). phpBB doesn't have public profiles anymore, so avoid those.

    In the Hobbies field you can type in "SEO", or "Internet marketing" (just examples), or you can type in 200 chars, like "sheeple make me sick, no wonder we eat sheep, they're so fricken dumb, maybe sheeple should go on the fire too".
    It doesn't sound like a real hobby, unfortunately, but hey, it gets your word count up, and the more words you have, the more likely it will be indexed. Backlinking the backlinks really helps with forum profiles. Sounds like a lot of work, but if you have XR and can leave it to run while you sleep, it really isn't.

    Profiles work if you do them right.

    3.
    New sites are NOT hard to SEO. You can have sites ranking in days, and all this nicey-nicey be gentle stuff may be necessary if you have a client that has a site that's worth $200k (like I do), but if you're trying to flog amazon or clickbank stuff then just start firing links. Who knows, maybe you'll kill the site. Then what? Well, you know for a fact what killed the site! You can move your content, start again, and it costs you $7 for a domain, and the time to link build and you've learned where the line is!

    You will talk to 1000 sheeple on forums, and will never know the answer to "how many links should I build to a new site?". Test stuff out, don't contract the REPEATIES! What's worse, losing $7 and getting some link building practice in, or hoping people will feed you (bahhh!) answers... AND you're still just reading, not taking action?

    You mix link sources:
    Forum posts
    Forum profiles
    Wikis
    Web2.0s
    Bookmarks
    Facebook/Twitter
    Articles (on article directories)
    Paid Press Releases
    Directories
    Contextual page links

    You only need 3-4 of these links types to get more stable rankings.

    I would suggest cloaking affiliate links properly though, because Google does not like them on new sites. Something I've tested, not just a re-hashed sheeple theory I read somewhere.



    So, I hope that's helped one person at least. Just remember Google is NOT your friend. All this soft wishy-washy "oh no, but Google said this" crap will get you no where.

    Get a backbone, don't do what Google tells you to do, they don't care about you, the fact you hate your day job or have kids to feed.

    Try it one day, go to your family and say: "Sorry kids, I can't make money online because I'm afraid Google won't like it. You won't have awesome holidays, and Mommy/Daddy will have to work until they're 70 and will never see you during the day."

    Seriously, get a grip, you MUST build links. And lots of them too.

    It pains me so much to see people suffering because they take awful sheeple advice like "do nothing, and hope someone gives you quality links". These people are not helping you, ignore them. They are not SEOs! They are not even people!

    So stay away from the Repeaties. Always ask how someone has come to their opinion about SEO theory.
     

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  2. dichotomy

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    ahaha hilarious man i love it
     
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    Lmao, I love this thread :D

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  4. Retsam5

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    But how do we know you're not already one of the sheeple? :eek:
     
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    I love to read more thread like this. liked
     
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    I have to agree with OP. I have never given a fuck about Google and it's penalties. I have done tons of weird shit while others are saying that building few links took their site down.
    Links are great no matter how many you have them.. My experience says that content is the king and if your content sucks nuts then your backlinks do it as well.

    So good quality content + tons of (even to a new site) good quality backlinks (yes you can do good quality backlinks with Senuke and other "bulk marketing" software) and you are good to go. Sometimes it just will take little bit more time to write nice content :)
     
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    Best post ive read on BHW for a while - i haven't stopped link building, in fact im doing more link building and SMARTER link building. Dont be lazy, put some time into your tools and your spins, and bank.

    Google just raised the bar, thats all.

    Black hatting is far from dead, its just lazy black hatting thats on its way out.
     
  8. team74

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    Good question!

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  9. team74

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    Good stuff, but for tier one content mine isn't that high quality. I get really cheap, readable content (like 18c per article), and I use that for my blog networks. Then I mash the hell out of it (different from spinning, Google uses n-grams to discover synonyms), and then that same content will be unique again (but not as readable) for my web2.0 content.
     
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    Love it! Please post more often.
     
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  12. Dan Da Man

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    I like your post. sheeple is funny. Regurgitation is everywhere and I think it is getting worse. I would say almost 90 percent of this forum is regurgitated shit. There are some gems and there is a lot of info but there is a lot of misinformation as well.

    Although I disagree with your statement about SEPUKe or I mean SENuke (always get them confused since they sound the same and they both turn up shitty results ;) Senuke sucks man. If you are really still using SEnuke and the non indexed sites that it supports than you too are a sheeple. No offense but if you are really going to stay around much longer you need to get rid of the shitty out of the box tools and move up to the big boy programs. Your a sheeple bro ;)
     
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    Dan,
    seems like you really hate senuke! I have to say that I brought the lifelong membership a while back, but stopped using it for ages because I was getting crap results. Then I saw they were releasing XCr later this year, so I thought I'd shake off the dust and give it a spin again. I used to build backlinks to with senuke to moneysite innerpages, but now I just build generic anchors/domain name/brand name senuke to tier 1 only.

    I think like with any automation tool, it's all about how you use it. I really got a lot of useful senuke stuff from Pobman's forum, particularly the templates (come with videos to explain). The other thing which I really love now is the Article Builder for content.

    It's all about how you want to spend your time with SEO. Do you want to spend time learning and using Zenno, or would you rather spend your time creating unique content for moneysite and social marketing. For me, create quality content at the top, and blast the crap out of the lower tiers with automation.

    By the way, fantastic post by OP : really love reading stuff like this!
     
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  14. team74

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    Who says I don't use big boy programs? I don't really know what to say Dan, I can get 40 unique tier one links with 3 minutes of work. Sure a handful are noindex or nofollow, but 75% are good. Then I throw those into my spam machine.

    That was kind of the point of my post, that I don't agree with the masses of people saying SeNukeX is shit. I don't train it new sites, or use that visual editor, or mess with pinging or RSS. I just spam web2.0s, articles sites, and the bookmarks.

    I'm in a GB for it, for $40 per month and the results it brings now I'm efficient with it, it'll be staying in my toolbox along side the server crunching big boy tools ;)
     
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    What do you mean by proper cloaking. Can you give an example?
     
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    i want to do that link building...but i dont know the effective way to do all of it....until now i just backlinkin manually so i just got maybe, 5 or 10 backlink from free web2.0 or etc.....lol

    I just can't do the,
    "Exact Match Keyword 20%
    Phrase Match 40%
    Generic Anchor Text 15%
    Naked Links (plain URLs) 25%",
    because i got the backlink hardly and i never have an opportunity to thinkin about it,,,,,i just put the anchor text randomly..:D
     
  18. Dan Da Man

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    To each their own ;) Senuke is shitty tool man. Look at the "social network" sites in the program at the moment. And it's not really how you use it because these sites are junk.
     
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    Well Said!
     
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    good work Mike