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Do Not Buy from User: AllExpert

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by coolness, Jul 20, 2011.

  1. coolness

    coolness Junior Member

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    As per my Want TO Buy thread here http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...-1000-more-facebook-accounts.html#post3035754 , user "AllExpert" scammed me and is refusing to refund me for a worthless/junk/dishonest product.

    I paid him for 1000 new facebook accounts, and the majority of them were disabled, deleted or roadblocked .

    He responds by making dishonest claims about them all working and "quality", and it being the fault of my IP, and that they were fresh accounts.
    All of that is a lie. I can disprove all of his lies very easily, and proof can be provided.


    Basically here is the gist of the issue as per the original buy thread:


    1. Anyone can test accounts without logging in to show they are disabled, just by searching. It is not an IP issue (my IPs work with every other accounts),just a crap seller issue. It is very easy for anyone to prove they are junk accounts, on fresh IPs, doesnt matter, they were banned well before they were even sold to me.

    2. The ones that wern't roadblocked (but that was the majority of them), were already used and resold to someone else before me, and being used at the same time I was using them. I can easily prove this, but he keeps lying through his teeth about this, even though I have proof.

    3. I told him the majority of accounts were all useless, and I asked for a refund. He got back to me after the time I needed them by, and suggested he would give me more accounts. I said Id rather not have junk, and just want a refund.

    I have requested a refund several times, he refused under any circumstances, so now I am requesting it here, and saving others the trouble of buying crap off this dodgy character.
     
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  3. coolness

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    In the process of Paypal dispute. However, I felt it was my duty to warn others that this guy sells the lowest quality worthless crap you can buy, and of his dirty underhanded tactics to take your money, give you a worthless old / unusable junk product, lie about it, then refuse to offer any refund.

    Avoid at all costs, seek another user for any sort of account creation (I can recommend some), this guy will just steal your money, lie, then give you a bad review.
     
  4. coolness

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    User replied this in another thread, but I directed him here to keep it clean.

    AllExpert continues to write lies to make me look bad, when he is the scammer. Mate, simply refund me and you can save yourself some trouble.

    More lies. Yes, go ahead check those accounts, they are some of the few that worked out of thousands. I of course did use some. But eveb on those above accounts there is even proof on their wall post that they were being used by someone else. I think every example above they have Liked some french canadian coffee company, which was done by someone else, not me. Some even had a friend or two already. Proof they are resold junk.

    Also, it is easily disproven that my IP is not the issue, of the thousands of accounts you can search the users in facebook before logging in, and when there is no search result, it is pretty clear they are deleted, and when you try to login, it is confirmed. I have used thousands of accounts after this from other sellers, on the exact same IP I used, and they worked perfectly.

    I also received messages from Facebook that my account was also logged in to at a time after the date I purchased the accounts, from locations that were not mine. Nothing to do with the proxy in original setup. Further indication and proof they were resold junk and being used by multiple people.

    However most of the accounts were roadblocked or deleted before I even logged in, fresh IP or not.

    This is all proven 100% truth. If you then try to call me a liar and say they all worked or it's my fault even though I can prove you're selling junk, then this makes you look like even more of a scammer. At least have the dignity to admit you made a mistake, it happens, I understand. I have bought several thousands of accounts before, and sometimes they will be junk/deleted, but every time the seller has offered me a refund without me even asking.

    AllExpert simply be a professional and refund me, or continue to dig your hole deeper.
     
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  5. AllExpert

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    Must ready his WTB thread ...
    He has given the link above ...

    You will know who is the real scammer ....
    The seller who delivered accounts and after a week offered replacement for bad accounts or the buyer who used accounts spammed using them and then said accounts are crap, he will not accept replacement just refund the money (as he has gain his target from accounts now he wants his money back as well (If it was so then why didn't you ask me for free accounts ?)) ...

    I have added a few sample accounts from the beginning of the list ... Anyone else wants the proof that "accounts used by him" I'm ready to provide ...
     
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  6. AllExpert

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    Look guys ....

    When I quoted a few accounts there in my post on his WTB thread and told that he is the owner of " Bakers Delight ", he removed those lined from my post while quoting it .... and you can't imagine what further he did ....
    He removed all those wall posts he did about "Bakers Delight ", while he has accepted in above quoted lines that he has used those accounts....

    I didn't even thought how cheap he can be ...

    And you (coolness) by yourself liked that link of coffee company ...
    I didn't even knew that it is " French Canadian Coffee Company "
    But you did know because you have done it by yourself and you have its record ... May be you are getting pay from that company as well for liking their links and putting it on the walls of those accounts ...

    You have filed dispute on pp ... but atleast be honest here ...

     
  7. pavan

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    I will take my words back after going through all the chats
    I apology for accusing you
     
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  8. Foot Mark

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    I am not talking in favor of anyone, But The seller has more Good Reviews as a Seller than bad ones.

    You had some bad issues with him, okay, But he did not scam you directly..

    Scam is what, if he took you money and ran away in few secs after receiving your money..

    But the seller, sent you accounts. and continued the contact with you...

    It easily proves he is not totally wrong person..

    But I think, there is some misunderstanding going on with you guys, which you guys can solve in private conversation between you two..

    I don't think, being Rude on each other can bring you any good result..
     
  9. coolness

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    This is exactly right.
    Now AllExpert is making up more stuff saying I went out of my way to like someone else's company in Canada (these accounts like multiple businesses in Montreal, nothing to do with me, and I could care less if those companies were banned from Google/FB), more lies. No one would go out on a limb and go to all this fuss if they were not actually ripped off.

    Yes, a bare minimum of the accounts worked (which were crap anyway because they were being used already), but the majority did not work at all, through no fault of my own, they were blocked. When I pointed out the problem he refused to refund. Anyone else would offer a refund. He said at the time he could not refund, as he didnt have the money. The product I was sold was not what was offered, was resold, and mostly blocked accounts before I even used them, that is a scammer and a liar.

    It sounds like in the past he has been a good seller, which is why I bought from him. But now when he delivers a faulty product he takes abso-lutely no responsibility or admission and pushes blame over to the seller and makes up stuff about me and is gutless. Not cool. Avoid AllExpert.
     
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  10. RamChaturvedi

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    Well I had used services of "AllExpert" in the past and it has been pretty good for me. But if I talk about the last time, I took 100 Gmail PVA and i left them unused for 7 days to age them a bit. I was about to use them for Google Places but when I checked after 7-8 days..BANG...all were disabled!!

    I asked the seller to check and confirm and if he could do anything to recover or replace them but he simply refused and said the same reason to what he gave to OP here!!

    He also said that it was my mistake that i didn't used them within 48-72 hours lol (whats the use of buying PVA then)

    Thats my experience so far and that was my last day with AllExpert!!

    No hard feelings buddy but you shd not give the same excuse when shit happens like this!! You shd have an alternative for stuff like this. :)
     
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    he's a scamer?
     
  12. BigBuddy

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    Fine. considering Allexpert Itraders, I am giving him the chance of replacement of accounts. This issue cant be taken as scam, as seller is ready to replacing the accounts. Further he should also mention the period, the accounts to be used.
     
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  13. AllExpert

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    I'm going to post all the chat here...
    Just visit the links below and read it.

    Just tell me where I'm wrong and where he is ...
    He already filed a dispute and will get refund via pp ...
    All that mentioned in chat as well.
    Must read all of it ...

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    Namely the user's email address. NOTE: If you wish to re-post them, please
    block-out the email address part of the graphics - Thank You - "Wiz"
     
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    Hope you guys resolve this !
     
  15. AllExpert

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    Thanks sir ...
    He filed a dispute and escalated to paypal 2 day ago ....
    What will happen to that ???
    He should cancel that dispute .. I will deliver him accounts again ...
     
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    Allexpert edit the mail id in the chat script.
     
  17. coolness

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    I tried to reason with you before I started the Paypal claim, and you simply refused to budge.

    When I urgently needed the accounts (within hours) you said you would check and would be back in a minute, didnt come back, so I called you in Pakistan, desperate to get accounts ASAP, this was about 6 hours later, then you said you would be back online in 1 hour, then only about 4 hours you were. I asked for replacement, you said you could not deliver in the time I asked.

    By this time I had to arrange urgent replacement products from a reliable seller, and I told you it was too late.
    So a replacement now is useless.

    If you can now accept that your accounts were at fault, then surely you can also accept responsibility and refund me. If you refund me, I will stop the claim.
     
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  18. AllExpert

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    Not true ... You said you need replacement .. I asked for 24 hour time to deliver you all of the accounts .... You said deliver in 10 minutes or refund ... then I said I have few hundred accounts ready .. take those ones immediately and fulfill your need, rest accounts will be delivered few hours later .... But you didn't take ...

    Here are links to all chat history, anyone can check what I said and what you :
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  20. coolness

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    Not a single word of that is "not true", it's all true. Are you deluded?

    After delivering the original product much later than you said (you said 1 hour was how long it takes), I waited several hours, slept then had to go away for a few days the next morning, and you delivered it after that, well after an hour.

    Anyway I required them urgently, (youd already blown out my time budget every single time you promised something by a certain time, you would always take much longer) which is why I called you specially in Pakistan after waiting all day when I found and told you they were mostly locked/used and you had not got back to me regarding checking them, and I asked you to come online ASAP, you said you would be online in 1hr, but didnt come on until much later again than you said you would. Due to the urgency I was not prepared to wait for another indefinite bullshit time frame you give like 24 hours or more days when the work was already overdue, (and me requesting a replacement several times) and after waiting all day for you (after you said you would check them now), after the issue going on and you not fixing the problem all day I finally said if you cant replace in 10 mins to offer a refund right there as, and you couldnt replace what I ordered . So I used someone else who didnt sell me USED, JUNK, LOCKED PRODUCTS, and delivered in 10 minutes, as the job had to be done right then, and any later was too late.

    So now that you have accepted your product was junk and you are responsible (and that I will not waste any more time, proxies or effort on testing your crap product), a replacement is useless to me as someone else who did not BS and waste my time delivered the job I needed done days before with high quality, which you didnt, the only resolution left is to refund me.
     
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