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Do like boosts mess up your natural post reach up?

Discussion in 'Instagram' started by EnhancedHuman, Nov 20, 2016.

  1. EnhancedHuman

    EnhancedHuman Junior Member

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    I've boosted a lot of my posts on my brand account. I'm noticing that I'm getting less and less organic likes from my followers. Does boosting likes from bot accounts mess my reach up? In other words, will real people see less of my posts thanks to that? I have 10k followers and I get max 300 real likes in 24 hours.
     
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    I think if you have both real and fake followers, it will not affect the reach..
     
  3. EnhancedHuman

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    Yes I have some fake followers too but I'm talking about post likes. I buy those too. If it harms my reach I will stop.
     
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    I was thinking of buying likes to get in the explore page for higher competitive hashtags. I get around 400 likes per pic with 8500 followers. I had the same question.
     
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    Make sure your likes are dip-feed, and slowly increment.

    Most of the autolikes services I've seen are slamming one chunk of likes at one go, it'd not be shown on the explore page by hashtags.

    Also make sure you're ranking on easier hashtags than those general one with over 1M-2M post uploads daily.

    I'm currently testing my autolike script, let me know if you'd like to try.
     
  6. EnhancedHuman

    EnhancedHuman Junior Member

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    I'm now convinced that buying likes messes up your reach. I'm getting about 3 times less likes than I did before and I have more followers now.
     
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    bots will always mess up reach i have a manually grown 4.5k that gets 600-800 likes per post
     
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  8. EnhancedHuman

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    I would even say I get about 200 max now not 300 and I have double the followers. Damn I fucked up... Will it fix itself if I stop buying likes?
     
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    Yeah keep on buying folks, fuck up your account. Once flagged/limited, good luck with getting out of that rathole. It's better to restart.

    When I compare the IG algo from 2 years ago and the current one, they made hell of a step forward in detecting bullshit.
     
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    im not 100% sure it would fix itself because i have no experience with bots but i assume if you stop buying likes and manually follow to unfollow people who recently like pics on bigger accs in ur niche you should see engagement starting to increase after a month. i was getting about 2k-2.5k likes, after a month of following and ufollowing manually im getting about 3k-4k average
     
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    Yesterday by mistake i was banned from the engagement group i was part of and today i'm getting more comments on my pictures. I think the problem is receiving a lot of likes in a short time, i'll keep on testing...
     
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    I've been trying to find evidence for this for over a year now. Once I boosted the first post on a page with about 15k organic followers in a tight niche, none of the future posts had the natural reach they had before.

    It looks like the maximum reach for the average post is capped at 10 to 15% of the organic followers. I don't have evidence for this, but that's what it looks like.

    On the mobile version of FB, when you log into a page, it shows a graph where the green bar of reach is a certain distance from the brown bar of potential users...I wonder how they calculate the size of the green in relation to the brown bar, but it does seem like there's a organic cap.

    It seems like once the shark tastes the blood, it will seek more ;)
     
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    Yes it does, it goes based off your followers who like your post in a certain matter of time, then your post goes into explore feed and gains a lot of new followers and likes.
    If you boost with fake likes, it won't do anything, and it most cases probably hurts you more, and your post won't go into explore feed as easily.

    Tested this countless times and it seems that's how the algorithm is somewhat based on, there are probably more to it but that is what i have found out, so stop fake likes, it wont help
     
  14. EnhancedHuman

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    My account is slowly coming back from it. 10k followers and 150 likes for new pictures currently. Damn... Live and learn.

    How about slow drip bot likes? I don't see how IG could detect that. I'm not looking to experiment with that stuff anymore but still wonder.
     
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    Judging from my tests, any like boost, doesn't help it in anyway, it seems that it only helps boost when your followers or people interested in your niche like your posts, and if it gets a high amount of likes in a short amount of time then your post has a better chance of going into explore page.
     
  16. YoLoSwaGMaAN

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    do these fake likes boost relate to likes from engagement groups aswell? since during rounds we do receive a majority of the likes from the groups as soon as i have posted
     
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    This is a good conversation. Hopefully, we can all learn a bit and find out what really drives IG's algorithm.

    My thinking is that accounts that have engagement, and like your photos, will in turn add juice to your posts and drive you faster into explore page. Similar to Google's page rank. If a PR7 site has a link to your site, it makes it better than your competitor having a similar link in a PR3 site.

    Again, this is just my assumption. That is why I think that likes from bots/fake accounts do little, because they have no engagement in their pages. Except for a few out there that have 50K+ followers with 1K+ likes on each post. But, those usually don't get used on "like farms".
     
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    I'm not sure if it is but it definitely helps me get top tags and geolocation top posts. I don't use likes from services, rather likes from reaching out to other pages that like my stuff (ie: liking people who post similar things based on tags used etc). I do have one engagement group which automatically pushes likes from powerful accounts (10k +) but beyond that I'm trying not to use rounds as much anymore as I fear it's hurting my engagement.

    I made a post on a different section about the power of likes towards maximizing reach. I've gotten a few responses that may contribute to this conversation

    https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/question-about-the-power-of-likes-on-instagram.895564/
     
  19. EnhancedHuman

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    I aways used a site that delivers likes from real humans. People get credits for liking photos so that they can get likes themselves. That system worked well. I got tons of comments on top of the likes even from people who weren't interested in my niche. When I started using a panel for instagram likes that delivers hundreds of bot likes in seconds I completely messed up my account. I hardly get any comments now. Around 5 max per photo and 4 are from bots. Before I got anywhere from 30-60 comments. The engagement was insane. Maybe that helps someone. The lesson here is to not mess around with bots. I think I'll go back to that same site to give a natural boost to my images by buying credits. That can't hurt right?
     
  20. masterboy56

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    Which site are you talking about?