Do I need a different IP for PBN? or just the hosting?
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DDuce
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No, different IPs in different subnets.
This is how the subnets break down:
AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD
Most hosting providers give you IPs in the same D range, unless you specifically ask for it. In fact, a lot of them only have a /21 subnet which is no more than 7 unique C-Classes.
Another thing to watch out for with shared hosting is sharing space with sites that are greylisted for malpractice by search engines. Links on domains that are hosted on those IPs do exactly nothing for your rankings.
You can read more about subnets and how they're broken up here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_subnetting_reference
This is how the subnets break down:
AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD
Most hosting providers give you IPs in the same D range, unless you specifically ask for it. In fact, a lot of them only have a /21 subnet which is no more than 7 unique C-Classes.
Another thing to watch out for with shared hosting is sharing space with sites that are greylisted for malpractice by search engines. Links on domains that are hosted on those IPs do exactly nothing for your rankings.
You can read more about subnets and how they're broken up here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_subnetting_reference
DDuce
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And to add a non-technical explanation, I used to explain the need for multiple subnets to clients like this:
Think of a link like a vote; if all the votes for your site came from 1 area there would be something fishy going on. They are most likely connected in some way or another. Now if you get the votes from all over the country the chances of them being connected (and therefor manipulated) are way smaller.
They're still there! But the logistics are harder and you've taken care of well over 95% of people who 'do' SEO/Linkbuilding for the simple fact that most are lazy and can't be bothered to set up a proper network.
Linkbuilding is like rigging the system. Do it right and you win the election ;-) Do it wrong and you get locked up
Think of a link like a vote; if all the votes for your site came from 1 area there would be something fishy going on. They are most likely connected in some way or another. Now if you get the votes from all over the country the chances of them being connected (and therefor manipulated) are way smaller.
They're still there! But the logistics are harder and you've taken care of well over 95% of people who 'do' SEO/Linkbuilding for the simple fact that most are lazy and can't be bothered to set up a proper network.
Linkbuilding is like rigging the system. Do it right and you win the election ;-) Do it wrong and you get locked up
I'm planning on getting a dedicated IP on each domain. So is there a need for me to use a proxy and then login to the hosting account?
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accelerator_dd
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You need each PBN on a separate IP, OP. Anything short of that is increasing your risk.
DDuce
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Uhm no, logging into your server has nothing to do with an outward facing website that you want crawlers to visit and index
Besides, you login to your server using SSH and visit websites using HTTP(S). Two completely different protocols. Don't get them mixed up ;-)
Oh okay. Thanks for clearing up. So as long as the my domains have different IP I'm okay?Uhm no, logging into your server has nothing to do with an outward facing website that you want crawlers to visit and index
Besides, you login to your server using SSH and visit websites using HTTP(S). Two completely different protocols. Don't get them mixed up ;-)
xjapan
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you need different c class ip to be precise
Nonilol
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Proxies? Nope, proxies wont help at all.
You need your accounts on different hostings.
And make sure they are not reselling the same hosting before ordering
Dropped means it's not indexed anymore?
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You need different ip and different hosting.
How do I make sure? I'm using Namecheap as my registrar.
SocialPusher
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ALthough what you said isn`t necessarily wrong, the shared hosting is used by most of the internet, so Google doesn`t necessarily hit you too hard if you have a website on the same IP as a fishy one
thesam
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For PBN, it's important to keep blogs profile 100% natural with zero-footprints.
Few things come under common sense, For example, you have 10 blogs network and
you host all 10 sites in the same hosting? It's super risky, it will not give any result which are expecting
you host all 10 sites in same hosting but with different IPs (A, B, C, Class) --- its little safe but still risky
As per my knowledge and experience, best strategy is to host all sites on different hosting, if for any reason you are using same host then try different data centers to secure your sites. You will get 10 unique IPs for each site.
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Use different name (fake info) in whois
Do not use same Gmail account for WMT, If GMT is important for you then use different google accounts.
Few things come under common sense, For example, you have 10 blogs network and
you host all 10 sites in the same hosting? It's super risky, it will not give any result which are expecting
you host all 10 sites in same hosting but with different IPs (A, B, C, Class) --- its little safe but still risky
As per my knowledge and experience, best strategy is to host all sites on different hosting, if for any reason you are using same host then try different data centers to secure your sites. You will get 10 unique IPs for each site.
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Use different name (fake info) in whois
Do not use same Gmail account for WMT, If GMT is important for you then use different google accounts.
The billing information you give your hosting provider is only known between yourself and the hosting provider. The info you put in whois when you register the domain, however, is public information, so that is the one you want to either use a privacy service or use fake random info.