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Do Google Updates affect sites with Sape Links?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by ardvark, Jan 28, 2013.

  1. ardvark

    ardvark Regular Member

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    Hi.

    Was thinking of buying some sape links.

    Have the recent updates affected any of your sites that have bought sape services in the BST section?

    Also, whats the shelf life of these links? Have seen some people saying they dropped out of the serps after a couple of weeks?

    No offence, but i don't really want any replies from Sape suppliers, just customers please.

    Cheers
     
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  2. bramantya

    bramantya Regular Member

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    curious to hear this info too,thinking to buy the service
     
  3. back2form

    back2form Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Yeah, I too saw some thread at BST providing sape links..

    Subscribed now, let me watch out before trying out sape links :)


    Cheers!
    Bart
     
  4. Grandifer

    Grandifer Newbie

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    It doesnt matter if it's sape links or not. They're all the same. Just keep in mind that if you buy very many links at one time for a young site (e.g. less than a year old), those links will negatively affect your position in serp. (I call it "link explosion"). And you even can get banned and dropped out of serp.

    Cheers!
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  5. lover

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    In few niches i am in, the top sites which had most of the links from Sape dropped to 4-5 pages after the last update, these same sites dominated high search volume keywords for last 7-8 months.
     
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  6. innovalist

    innovalist Supreme Member Premium Member

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    No one really understand what Google updates are, just a guessing game. You are #1 today, the next day you disappeared from their radar.
     
  7. Leith

    Leith Jr. Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I've been using SAPE links for a while now and they're still doing wonders for me.
     
  8. radarsurge

    radarsurge Regular Member Premium Member

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    In a word, NO. In more words, any strategy is weak if it is not researched and thought through.
     
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  9. FuryKyle

    FuryKyle Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Never tried it, never will. It may be true that these links are "fast ranking" links, but sooner or later Google will catch up to them, just like how they did with BMR and ALN last year, both of which worked wonders for me (note the "ed").
     
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  10. t0mmy

    t0mmy Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Yawwn didn't you say this weeks before the update that your sites were slapped lol you've been spreading your little vile hatred about sape since the day I opened the service here (jealousy imo) and to be honest I've had enough of your childish behaviour going around neg repping at least 5 people now that have said anything good about the system so your words mean jack shit son.

    Now hard facts... I'm tracking over 300 clients from bhw alone that are using sape to rank their sites, all I hear day in day out is good reports of these guys hitting top spots, coming back for more. Theres a lot of shit inside sape - deindexed sites, sites with fake pr, invisible links and even hacked sites. We have set up filters to cut all that crap and I firmly believe this is the main reason we are seeing such epic results, we are proactively scanning the network every day to find the crap and add it to our global blacklist.

    Sape used in the right hands works theres no doubt about that, most likely google will roll on it at some point but that time isn't now thankfully!
     
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  11. FuryKyle

    FuryKyle Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Said with true honesty. Google will, definitely at some point destroy it, but didn't expect you as a seller to admit to that. Respect.
     
  12. ivanpenev

    ivanpenev Regular Member

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    Obviously t0mmy missed that. No offense man but your post is if you know how to place the links your site will survive the updates and you are referring (not directly) that your service know how to place them correctly. What you are saying is right, there are shit sites in sape etc. I can't say a word against that.

    I am not against sape I am using this links too, but for not so important sites because the network has gained a lot of popularity in the recent months and that will eventually kill the method. The site which I am ranking with sape survived the recent updates but it's not depending only on sape, it has 5+ other type of links.
     
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  13. t0mmy

    t0mmy Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    I believe in being honest man bh links are always going to come with risk and we've been upfront about this from day one, hopefully we can all continue to bank from the power of sape for a long time to come but theres always that risk...

    Yeah I did miss that part of the post, not that it would have stopped me voicing my opinion anyways lol :rolleyes:

    Not really man its common sense... links on deindexed, fake pr or invisible links are going to be bad right? So you learn to build filters and global black lists, not rocket science. I ain't seen nothing in our 300+ clients to suggest anything crazy is up, but yeah seems to me google has gone after some of the big players but I mean they are popping right back up again and using sape again so that leads me to believe they are slapping these guys when they hit these huge kws but not actually slapping sape. Yeah you do right as the sites I've seen doing best with these are the ones building other link types alongside the sape links.
     
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  14. louisp2500

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    My site was hit only 2-3 days after i got my sapelinks indexed. And now i can start all over again with new site. Hate google sometimes
     
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  15. twilightofidols

    twilightofidols Power Member

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    I've seen some sites with sape links in my niche rise to the top. Even a one page site which is now slowly falling from the rankings. The more popular these links become, the harder Google is going to work to infilitrate this network identify what ever footprints they possibly can and try to take it down. Maybe not today, maybe not a year from now but sooner or later. I'd guess big G has employees who's job it is to order link buying services to help unravel these networks. I'm not saying this is happening, I bet the BST sellers deliver some killer results. However, the possibility is real enough that FOR ME I've decided not to include them in my linking strategy.
     
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    They wipe them out clean. Don't use SAPE.
     
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  17. Leith

    Leith Jr. Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    That's ridiculous. All black hat links come with a risk. Not just SAPE. I've used SAPE links successfully with many websites which are ranking for big terms.

    There are obviously loads more people who have had great results with SAPE so maybe you're just one of the odd few?

    SAPE links work for some and maybe not so well for others.
     
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  18. araqueli

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    I am trying SAPE with a supplier from this forum,

    ordere placed a week ago, saw little improvement in some kws. but it is early to speak about results.

    My point is: lets say you find a niche with a good revenue if you rank top 3, for main kws. and that makes you 5k-10k a mo. Then if the site last for at least a week in top 3 you bank good money. delete the site, add no index meta tag, get another domain (aged) and copy the site there. buy links again.

    other scenario, say you get heavyly penalized becoz of SAPE... use it... for.... ;)

    worst case: nothing happens and you lose 200usd or so.
     
  19. envisionary

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    I am curious if there is any sort of footprint with SAPE. Would you not have to actually go thru and "buy" a link on each website to know which sites or on the shitlist?
    I understand the positives, what are the negatives?
    They are not like your typical bl0g n3twork. I have seen them...they are real sites.
    Have a good one.
     
  20. skrewz

    skrewz Newbie

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    I absolutely agree with t0mmy. There will always be people who will say this doesn't work and that doesn't work. I remember when Panda rolled out people were bashing AMR and most other tools out there. I still use AMR and have great results. You have to spend time and learn the mediums that you intend to use and it's all about the HOW not the what. Sape is an amazing network of sites and an original idea that I've seen replicated several times by other people. If you're smart it will do wonders. If you filter your sites right, there is no footprint because everything happens on the back-end. People who bash other services are simply either too lazy to do their due-diligence (i.e. filtering out bad apples manually) or simply ignorant.
     
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