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do all those ebooks selling site really deliver

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by mosgino, Sep 26, 2011.

  1. mosgino

    mosgino Newbie

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    Hi,

    you must all know them, those single page selling you an ebook, with a 1 mile sales text with fancy color and everything.

    my question is, do they really deliver?

    I tried this rocketpiano free sample, the first 6 lessons were really decent, if the rest is at the same level I gladly spend 40$

    however, I can clearly see that he is using some multi-blogging auto backlincking tools in order to be 1st on google.

    and if his "pack" was so good I should be able to easyly find it on torrent or FileHoster, but you can only find review pdf.

    so, what do you think? safe to buy?

    thanks
     
  2. TermsB

    TermsB Senior Member

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    You need to ask yourself, if the system was as good as he was claiming it to be wouldn't he be making more money putting it to use rather than selling it? There are no tricks to rocket you to success in internet marketing. All the information you could be seeking is provided free on forums just like this one.
     
  3. extremephp

    extremephp BANNED BANNED

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    Think about the other way, If I own a site, which sells a PDF guide, and my site is ranking on top 3, will I be a fool to not deliver something?

    Even a half minded nut will give you a shitty PDF being in such a position. No one wants their top ranking sites to be shitlisted for not deliver things. And they surely wouldnt like their PP acc getting suspended for an unending row of chargebacks.

    So, I bet all those do deliver things, but we dont really know how good they are. :)
     
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  5. mosgino

    mosgino Newbie

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    and wouldn't that be a fool's move, since it's managed by clicbank and they refund you if you ask it (well that's what they say anyway)
     
  6. chapter2

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    I don't see how these pages could possibly be generalized into the same category. You will find scammers using more common site structures, and you will find scammers among the LFSL/long-form sales letter crowds. Effectiveness aside, format is the only thing that separates them, and it can not serve as a signpost of whether something is legit or not.

    The review pdf is probably his mischief, and the fact that whole course wasn't uploaded anywhere [you looked] doesn't have to mean it isn't good... maybe it was recently released, maybe the target market is small and/or unaccustomed to [illegally] sharing courses they buy. Try to find reviews and legit user opinions on forums and elsewhere, that will be more precise indicator (still dependent on program popularity or author's marketing efforts, though).


    From what I can see, it's powered by ClickBank, and they obliged to follow CB's rules, so getting a refund shouldn't be a problem. They have also been promoting other courses through the years, so you can google these to find more proof of whether they are legit or not.

    Btw, go to fenopy.eu and search for "Ruth Searle"... I don't know if it's the whole package, but there's some RocketPiano torrent with 100+ MP3s and 8 PDFs.
     
  7. mosgino

    mosgino Newbie

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    indeed,
    but those long sales speech, with keywords highlighted, pictures of people smiling everywhere and then a fake limited discount always get me a little suspicious.

    plus there is the fact that this is awfully cheap for a full piano course, like everybody, when I see something wich has better feature but is cheaper than an other product, I think : "there must be something wrong, stay away from it"

    I missed that, sight.
    for my defence I didn't used torrent for 3 years, i'm hooked to a special ISP all the time as soon as they detect bittorent protocol they cut your connection (even if it's a software getting his update by torrent)
    you must think it's awfull, but I get the best bandwith of my country, around 20-30MB/s (yes not bits, Bytes).

    well, I always wanted to learn piano, if his course really allow me to do it (I'm not expecting to become mozart in 1 year), he deserve those 40$.
    i'm gonna buy it, i've got 30 days to return anyway.
     
  8. chapter2

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    Yeah, and depending on where you live, $40 might not even get you 2 hours of live instruction...

    And don't forget the alternatives... Go to avaxhome.ws , type "learn piano" in the search box, and check out some of these:
    - Teach Me Piano Deluxe
    - Piano For All (200 video + 500 audio lessons)
    - Pattern Piano and Keyboard (2011)
    - Learn and Master Piano with Will Barrow
    - etc...

    And it's http, so you're free of any troubles your ISP might have with P2P traffic.