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dissapointed, discouraged

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by masterfunkd, May 20, 2009.

  1. masterfunkd

    masterfunkd Junior Member

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    I'm starting to get pretty discouraged at this point. I've been here for about a month and my deadline to start making bank consistently is Friday. After Friday I have to look into getting a legit job to keep paying for college. As of now that job would be the morning package loading shift for UPS. Oh did I say morning? I meant sunrise, which means the shift ends at sunrise. It also pays a whopping $8 or so an hour and is only part time. That's of course if I do get the job.

    I finally started getting accepted into networks today but didn't hear back from one i was really hoping for. That doesn't really matter. It's just that I have a couple days to start making consistent money and I'm spending hours and hours per day trying to make things work and figure out something that will.

    I know it's important to just start doing things and I have. I have $25 with CPA (not using them anymore, they're awful) I tried ewhoring but I got sick of the penis pictures and only made $6, and 3 sales of a cpa that pays $40 per sale. Those three sales came in 2 days at the start of the campaign, but now I'm not getting anymore. I just optimized my CL ad and response yesterday so if the sales improve they'll show up maybe tonight but more like tomorrow.

    Basically my only goal right now is make bank and don't get caught. And I'm only pulling off the second. I know this thread has no purpose. But I need to find something that works and make it fun to do. I'm working 12-14 hours a day for pennies as is.
     
  2. tymillz

    tymillz Super Moderator Staff Member Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    It is ok to vent sometimes. I do it myself from time to time. How much are you looking to make on a daily basis ? Are you willing to spend money to make it ? Even if not, how much time are you looking to put in ?

    I am asking these questions for a reason.
     
  3. Jcsarokin

    Jcsarokin Power Member

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    Heres an easy way to win with CL.

    Go download cakeslice (search here on BHW)
    If you have a domain, use it, if not buy a .info.
    Crop your offer and search here on how to fake the referrer.
    Send people to it via autoresponder + CL ( try jobs section w/out PVA )

    I literally started last week and am making VERY good money. You can even hire a CL poster for you, which is like gaurenteed 1,000+ emails.

    If your just starting out in CPA, look for LEADS not SALES. For me, as a newb, leads are a lot easier to convert then actually selling a product. Sharpen your skills before you go and try and sell something to someone.

    Just my advice ;)
     
  4. cunningstunts

    cunningstunts Registered Member

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    Write 10 ezines a day and point them at two landing pages.

    Landing page 1: Top 5 Resveratrol products.
    Landing page 2: Top 5 Anti-aging face products.

    Get 300 up and you should average 3 leads a day = $100

    Its a slog but after one month move on to the next project and so on and you will be home free.

    Obviously there's more to it in testing conversions etc but it works.

    And sure - its not BH - but it's one way.
     
  5. heiny

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    Before CL started cracking down on software for "autoposting" I was banking at least 500 a day on adult-offers. On top of that I did some acai - came in late, but I was still making a steady 50+ a day on that. Don't know how you only managed to get 120 USD out of it.

    At the least I made my money back for a program in a couple of days + the money I spent on buying some PVAs + extra pocket cash to start new stuff, in which I have :D
     
  6. The Joker

    The Joker BANNED BANNED

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    From what I remember Cakeslice Leeks the referrer, I would recommend not using it.
     
  7. masterfunkd

    masterfunkd Junior Member

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    I'm looking to make $100 per day starting out. After that the sky is the limit, i need to find something that works and scale it up. The problem is I don't have the money to spend. I can spend what I make but I haven't gotten paid by anyone yet. I'm looking to put in as much time as needed. If i find something that works and is fine scaling up as far as time then I'll spend 15 hours a day on it if that's what makes alot of money.

    I'm going to make bank.
    I'm downloading stand alone cakeslice. I'll figure out how to blank the referrer. I'll post on CL myself 8 ads tomorrow for an email submit offer. Framed and blackhat all the way baby. I'll use a 000space hosting for free and use a webs.c0m domain to redirect to it.

    The funny thing on those sales i made is that I was well above the historical conversion rate until today, the rate just sucks. I'm going to add a new product to my CL campaign, post 4 ads for the old one, 4 ads for the new one (both those tomorrow morning). I'll do that tomorrow and the day after and then compare rates. I'll drop the lower performing offer.

    I'll do more research tonight on playing Counter Strike and finish reading the rest of the Counter Strike forum that you need to have a certain post count and be here for a certain amount of time to get into (I'm so discreet).

    Goal for Friday- 3 streams.
    1. CL email submits, spread out over 2 or 3 networks hopefully but I may have to put them through just the one for now.
    2. Have my current CL campaign optimized with the superior product.
    3. Start CS'ing minor affiliates

    $Goal for Friday- average of $75 a day with the timer starting immediately. That's an additional $225 this week. To complement the $120 I made Sunday/Monday. Basically I need to make $1.05 an hour every hour.

    If I can't do this then I plain suck.
     
  8. masterfunkd

    masterfunkd Junior Member

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    because it's not acai, i think i might try adding that if i find a good one on one of my networks
     
  9. Jcsarokin

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    It does, but for step 3 (i didnt label them but check 3 lines) after you crop the offer you should search how to fake the referrer.

    I dont know how off the top of my head because i use GodCpa, which is the single greatest thing i have ever seen ;)

    hxxp://blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/37204-fake-referrer-cpa.html
     
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  10. masterfunkd

    masterfunkd Junior Member

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    i'm trying to learn to do it safely and effectively. LIttle hard with amazon since they're so general, i like to target things i'm doing
     
  11. blackhataffiliate

    blackhataffiliate Senior Member

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    The way I started making cash online was through Adsense. I targeted the financial sector with longtail keywords. Basicallly I found a longtail keyword, bought a domain with that same longtail phrase, a hostgator account and started posting away. After the first month I was making a couple hundred and expanded the business.

    Now I am making a consistent $3000 through adsense and another consistent $3500 from cj.com from these sites (still targeting the longtail). This is the easiest money I make and the only work I do on these sites now is post about 1 time every other week to keep fresh content.
     
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