Dispute: @JudgmentDay v. @Arnold Rothstein

Arnold Rothstein said:

lets keep on 1 by 1 Guys you know but You're really problem. Just keep on shilling everywhere about spotifypanel. You need some real job yourself.really believe.

@BassTrackerBoats you can find attached this order. which are exact completed please kepe on send more test order. you make me win money


men you re not normal! really 509481 exact completed . please send more test order. go on

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You are very successful at making a fool of yourself, as it seems to you.

Pay attention to when the message about the orders was written and when you responded to it.

You can circle your numbers in the screenshots, but the fact that the plays are not delivered on time is there.
Oh, and by the way, if you're showing screenshots, can you answer the question: why 500 subscribers unsubscribed, eh, genius? The order was 2023-05-14 06:58:29 with the status completed. And now it has a canceled status. Subscribers lasted less than a month.

If you had carefully read what I write, you would know that I am in a test mode, demonstrating the excellent work of your service, the scammer here is only you. And everyone who writes in this thread knows it.

And I will write reviews where I want and as much as I want, so that people like you do not prey on others and for the sake of that I'm willing to spend money if that procedure will help people stay away from your site.

Get yourself a job where you don't have to scam people, and read carefully in the dictionary what the word "reputation" means. You've obviously never heard it and have no idea what it is.

@Arnold Rothstein - you need to clean this up ASP or there will be nothing to clean up.

@Arnold Rothstein is banned.

BassTrackerBoats said:

@Arnold Rothstein is banned.

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It's great of course that this scammer is banned, but how does the person who created this thread, and everyone else, get their money back? Don't you think it's a very easy and painless outcome for this scammer? Anyway, if the money is not returned to everyone, I suggest everyone who has suffered from this creep to organize an attack on the site of this asshole.
So that his fraudulent site ceases to exist at all. Personally, I'm willing to look into the matter. But only if he won't give people their money back. I have skills in this matter, so let him read my message and think, if there is still than.

maxshader said:

It's great of course that this scammer is banned, but how does the person who created this thread, and everyone else, get their money back? Don't you think it's a very easy and painless outcome for this scammer? Anyway, if the money is not returned to everyone, I suggest everyone who has suffered from this creep to organize an attack on the site of this asshole.
So that his fraudulent site ceases to exist at all. Personally, I'm willing to look into the matter. But only if he won't give people their money back. I have skills in this matter, so let him read my message and think, if there is still than.

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Then you probably will go out with him since negative SEO is not allowed here.

Cheers

maxshader said:

It's great of course that this scammer is banned, but how does the person who created this thread, and everyone else, get their money back? Don't you think it's a very easy and painless outcome for this scammer? Anyway, if the money is not returned to everyone, I suggest everyone who has suffered from this creep to organize an attack on the site of this asshole.
So that his fraudulent site ceases to exist at all. Personally, I'm willing to look into the matter. But only if he won't give people their money back. I have skills in this matter, so let him read my message and think, if there is still than.

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He might be scamming and he might have lost all the money he received from his clients and can't refund. Either way it's his fault of course, but it not necessarily makes him a scammer more then bad business owner or failed entrepreneur. Some times it's just the ego that makes 4 years old account trash their reputation.

Coordinating an attack on his service won't bring these guys their money back either, but banning him will at least prevent him from scamming other users.

INCC said:

Then you probably will go out with him since negative SEO is not allowed here.

Cheers

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But here direct fraud and stealing money from people is allowed, thanks to figures like him. And a complete disregard for checks on these services. So it is possible for many people who allow such things to go out with him. And no one will return people's money.
That's what I thought the reaction to the post would be, so relax, he's too insignificant a figure for such actions. I just feel bad for the person who spent a lot of money on a useless, fraudulent service.
Cheers

INCC said:

Then you probably will go out with him since negative SEO is not allowed here.

Cheers

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Shut up clown.

flprocess said:

He might be scamming and he might have lost all the money he received from his clients and can't refund. Either way it's his fault of course, but it not necessarily makes him a scammer more then bad business owner or failed entrepreneur. Some times it's just the ego that makes 4 years old account trash their reputation.

Coordinating an attack on his service won't bring these guys their money back either, but banning him will at least prevent him from scamming other users.

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No, it won't prevent that at all. He'll just make another account and rebrand his entire website, and start the same Sales Thread all over again.
Happens every single day on here.

I'd like to know more details about the process the moderators take when approving these sales threads. Did the Mod even bother to check the stats, analytics, speeds, proxy locations, etc. before approving his sales thread? Obviously not.

Shouldn't the mod who approved it hold some type of responsibility and accountability here as well? Clearly, they didn't do their job correctly and it cost members on this forum A LOT of money.

The scammer's punishment? He keeps it all. The mod? Zero consequences.

JudgmentDay said:

I'd like to know more details about the process the moderators take when approving these sales threads. Did the Mod even bother to check the stats, analytics, speeds, proxy locations, etc. before approving his sales thread? Obviously not.

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From here as to our review for this service: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/s...reseller-services-free-test-balance.1436101/:
Summary
This service has been tested by the marketplace moderation team to ensure that it meets the standards for the marketplace. The service has been checked to ensure that it can deliver that the panel is operational and can deliver what it advertises.

Service Information

• The order placed was for 50K UK plays
• The order was completed successfully by the seller in less than 24h

Shouldn't the mod who approved it hold some type of responsibility and accountability here as well? Clearly, they didn't do their job correctly and it cost members on this forum A LOT of money.

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The review was done correctly.

The scammer's punishment? He keeps it all. The mod? Zero consequences.

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Actually our consequences in this one is seeing an ungrateful person whom the Mods tried to help and is now blaming the staff due to a seller going rogue.

maxshader said:

But here direct fraud and stealing money from people is allowed, thanks to figures like him. And a complete disregard for checks on these services. So it is possible for many people who allow such things to go out with him. And no one will return people's money.
That's what I thought the reaction to the post would be, so relax, he's too insignificant a figure for such actions. I just feel bad for the person who spent a lot of money on a useless, fraudulent service.
Cheers

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JudgmentDay said:

Shut up clown.

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You might not like the answer but this is the nature of buying SMM services in general.

JudgmentDay said:

I'd like to know more details about the process the moderators take when approving these sales threads. Did the Mod even bother to check the stats, analytics, speeds, proxy locations, etc. before approving his sales thread? Obviously not.

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This shouldn't be that complicated to understand, when the sales thread was approved then the seller provided a service that was on par with what was being advertised in the sales thread.

There's no way anyone can do more thorough checks than looking up if the basic functions of the service work as advertised, how do you even think that it's logistically possible for anyone from the mod team to do an analysis on the connection speeds and tens of thousands (or more) proxies?

Basic function checklist for SMM panels:

• Likes
• Followers
• Retweets
• Comments
• Views

That is pretty much what you'll get when it comes down to what is being checked before any of these panels are getting approved for a sales thread.

It's foolish to think that anyone has the resources to oversee all the proxies involved and whatnot.

It sucks but you knew the risks, it's always the same endgame for SMM so I'm going to close this off with your opening sentence:

JudgmentDay said:

Yes, there is always a risk when buying Spotify plays. I knew that going in

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INCC said:

You might not like the answer but this is the nature of buying SMM services in general.


This shouldn't be that complicated to understand, when the sales thread was approved then the seller provided a service that was on par with what was being advertised in the sales thread.

There's no way anyone can do more thorough checks than looking up if the basic functions of the service work as advertised, how do you even think that it's logistically possible for anyone from the mod team to do an analysis on the connection speeds and tens of thousands (or more) proxies?

Basic function checklist for SMM panels:

• Likes
• Followers
• Retweets
• Comments
• Views

That is pretty much what you'll get when it comes down to what is being checked before any of these panels are getting approved for a sales thread.

It's foolish to think that anyone has the resources to oversee all the proxies involved and whatnot.

It sucks but you knew the risks, it's always the same endgame for SMM so I'm going to close this off with your opening sentence:

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Why are you even posting in this thread with your opinions? Were you scammed by this guy? You're irrelevant.

BassTrackerBoats said:

From here as to our review for this service: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/s...reseller-services-free-test-balance.1436101/:
Summary
This service has been tested by the marketplace moderation team to ensure that it meets the standards for the marketplace. The service has been checked to ensure that it can deliver that the panel is operational and can deliver what it advertises.

Service Information

• The order placed was for 50K UK plays
• The order was completed successfully by the seller in less than 24h

The review was done correctly.


Actually our consequences in this one is seeing an ungrateful person whom the Mods tried to help and is now blaming the staff due to a seller going rogue.

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You just proved my point. The Order placed was for 50k UK Plays and the order was completed in 24 hours!? That's MUCH different than what the service description stated!!

See what I'm saying? As long as the Mod got 50k plays overnight that was all it took to get approved. No wonder this scam thrived on here for so long. Unbelievable.

JudgmentDay said:

Why are you even posting in this thread with your opinions? Were you scammed by this guy? You're irrelevant.

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Maybe because I am pointing out that there are members here who openly plan to break the TOS?

JudgmentDay said:

The "STANDARDS" to get a sales thread approved are pathetically pretty low apparently. Gone rogue? He was never legitimate to begin with. That means the Mod who approved his sales thread was either LAZY, INCOMPENTENT, OR BOTH.

If you can't police your own backyard then why should anybody feel safe enough to ever trust anything being "Approved" and sold on this platform? Why even have the "Approval" process in place to begin with? It doesn't protect anyone.

I think that about says it all.

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Inb4 thread is locked

As for you, you're beyond spoiled. You're probably the type of person to beat your wife when your boss yells at you, or break your furniture when your penny stock tanks.

You, only You are responsible for your actions. You think 90% of the people with a brain blindly trust a service because it was approved? Use your brain. There's so much junk, scams, rip-offs and resold crap in the marketplace.

Don't blame others for your failure to see red flags. I have failed to see them many times myself. But I accept that it is my fault and move on, learning from the experience.

I suggest you and others do the same.

JudgmentDay said:

You just proved my point. The Order placed was for 50k UK Plays and the order was completed in 24 hours!? That's MUCH different than what the service description stated!!

See what I'm saying? As long as the Mod got 50k plays overnight that was all it took to get approved. No wonder this scam thrived on here for so long. Unbelievable.

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And you didn't even bother to read the review yet bought and are now complaining that we tried to help you.