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Dilemma on purchasing laptop. Suggestion?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by BlackSeng, Jun 29, 2013.

  1. BlackSeng

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    Okay, so it's time to upgrade my laptop as my current one is unable to meet my requirements.

    Currently, I'm using Dell Precision M4500. Never failed me at all. But I did a really stupid thing - listening to others instead of researching and deciding on my own. Few years back when i7 was released, I was told that it is still 'new' and overpriced. I was asked to get i5 (2.6 ghz, 4 cores) instead.
    What's worst, I got the 32bit instead... so the maximum RAM I got was just 4GB. Graphics card is Quadro FX 1800M (sucks for gaming, seriously.. just for 3D and professional work). Despite all of that, it still fucking rocks. Never crashed, never hanged, and never had problems. But it is getting obsolete because it doesn't even have HDMI port, .etc.

    So I was told that M4800 might be coming out real soon. But release date wasn't published or given. I asked the Dell representatives and they just said, "soon... perhaps at 4th Quarter of this year."

    So I was playing around with the current model that Dell has to offer - Dell M4700. All the specs I customized and upgraded to the one I want will cost me a total of $5K at least. And yes, still the old 3rd gen i7 processor. I like their design (left image - m4800's design) as I like M4500's one (right image). Business- and professional- like.
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    Then I found out that there was a local customize laptop service in my country. It's called AfterShock PC. I would say they are still relatively new but they are trying to make attempts to enter the laptop market in Asia. But for only $4500, I could get the following specs:


    • 4th Generation Intel® Haswell Core™ i7-4900MQ Processor (8M Cache, up to 3.80 GHz)
    • NVIDIA GEFORCE 780M GTX 4GB DDR5 with Optimus Technology (even better than what Alienware has to offer)
    • 32GB DDR3 1600MHZ (4X8)
    • Samsung MSATA SSD 256GB as primary hard disk
    • 500GB Samsung 840 SSD as secondary hard disk
    • Windows 7 Professional 64bit


    Here's their minimalistic design look like (although I don't really like it. If you're discussing with clients and you pull out a laptop with that design below.. it kinda looks weird):

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    Yes, so the Dell will have similar specs but definitely will have an average graphics card that is meant for 3D and video-editing work. And I don't know if they will ever implement 4th gen i7 processors in their new models. But yes, still 32 GB of RAM. 500GB Solid State Drive hard disk only. Both companies also provide 2-3 years of parts replacement and warranty.

    But so far Dell has never failed me... AfterShock has even more powerful specs but have never tried them... and their exterior design is, well... terrible.

    So your opinion? Or should I just wait?

    P.S: I'm asking because I'm relatively outdated in computer technology. And will be using it for 3-4 years.
     
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  2. pathart

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    I always like to actually use a laptop (say in store) before purchasing it, so I can see what the keys are like etc.

    My only problem buying the second of the two laptops would be the build quality, is there anyway of testing one out?
     
  3. BlackSeng

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    Yes, I can actually go to one of their store to take a look.

    The parts and such are assembled by IT specialist. https://www.aftershockpc.com/Main/About-Us/
    One of the CNET Asia guys actually tried the older version of their laptops and were pretty impressed with their lightweight and performance.

    Hmm.. or should I just continue using my current laptop till the day it dies? lol
     
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    I certainly recommend that, the keyboard is always a big factor when I'm buying one.

    If you old laptop works I'd hold out, I bought my current laptop with a 2nd gen i7 in December 2011 and its been going fine since I won't be upgrading until I need to, better spending that domains etc :)
     
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    Only problem with my current laptop is.. it can't catch up when I use a lot of softwares at once.

    Like I run SenukeXcr and GSA SER with Captcha Breaker as I use dreamweaver, photoshop, and launch many browsers for SEO work. It will start to lag... sometimes it freezes temporarily like 2 seconds then it goes back to normal. So yeah, as you can see it isn't catching up with my demand sometimes.

    I do play games but not often. I play when Senuke is running and I can't do anything but wait.

    And I'm jumping into investment and daytrading soon... so I need something to handle all of my demands.
     
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    Why not get a desktop for running applications and then a laptop for meeting clients?

    Say spend $3k on the desktop and $1.5k on the laptop ? Or do you need to be able to use the applications on the go?
     
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  7. gergo2007

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    One thing that you MUST get is an SSD!! Trust me, it makes a really big difference! Get one for your current laptop and your small, 2 sec, freezing times will be gone!
     
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    Just sell the old one and try to buy new because in my views they are more compatible with the new trends of technology and softwares..you don't have to wait for :rippedhan
     
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    Thanks bro. But I prefer laptop, which also uses apps on the go. Because I have a personal office and I find it tedious to have PC transferring files over to the laptop, vice-versa. So yeah, just laptop :)
     
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    Mate get a MacBook. Recently switched to a MacBook Air 13'' with the newest Haswell processors and it's been a joy using it. For my SEO work I'm using a Lenovo X1 Carbon. I don't game, so these are very practical choices for myself. Dell does have good laptops but I find them slightly thick. thinkpads have very business like feels and should be a good fit for your needs.
     
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    When I buy LapTop I come to store and state my budget. Afte that I tell them to give me the best option for that money. It's not like I am gonna play BF 4 on it.
     
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    BlackSeng, one thing I think you should remain aware of is that many of these "high tech" advances will only contribute a marginal increase in overall performance. The SSD as a system drive, and the 8+ Gbyte of RAM are your most significant performance increasers, but many of the other upgrades, while they may cost twice as much, may only increase performance by 10%. So the question may sometimes be, "Do you want to pay 100% more for a 10% in performance?"

    If you income and your finances are such that you can do this, then the answer is obvious. But don't expect 3 times the performance at 3 times the cost. Cost and performance are on an exponential curve, and as cost rises dramatically, performance only increases marginally.

    2nd, I think the SSD for a system drive is a good idea, I don't see the point of having an SSD for your 2nd, data drive. The performance benefits just aren't there, and SSD's wear out. It sounds like your performance notebook company is marketing itself as being on the "bleeding edge" just for the sake of being on the bleeding edge, and they are attracting people that want to know they have the "best that money can buy", even though the "best" isn't really that much better than really, REALLY good.

    And finally, I happen to know you have a wife, and wonder if you have asked permission to even think about buying a new computer? Women usually have a very long list of things that they want to spend money on, and frequently what her husband wants isn't on that list, so you might want to check with her before you get too far into this process, and get yourself into trouble.
     
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  14. BlackSeng

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    Thanks for the interesting input, bro.
    But your last sentence is... I don't have a wife, bro... not even a girlfriend lol.
     
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    how about this ? the latest i7 (hasswell)

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    its for professional and true gamer , its really worth it :)
     
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    Btw if you don't want to play games and stuff, then just get an SSD. I added an SSD to my 4 your old laptop, and i can see the difference! Too bad it's falling apart and i have to change it, but that's the only reason :D
     
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    Performance wise it looks good but it also seems to be bulky and not modern.

    Nowadays I see a lot of macbooks and they actually look premium and professional but they may go out of your budget with those demanded specs..
     
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    This is overkill for a laptop. Something such as 32GB RAM is not needed unless you plan on video rendering in full HD at maximum settings 24/7. Also, why not get a HDD for backup storage and a SSD for immediate storage? It will save you a lot of money.

    It is all up to you but you are spending way too much money on something which will only lead to the slightest increase in laptop performance.
     
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    I agree with Nigel Farage.

    I would think about spending a bit less on the hard drives. They are expensive and won't give much to your performance - only more space. As long as you stick with a SSD. But 2 of them and 750 GB in total? That's sounds a bit like an overkill imo.
     
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    Imho, tools should have their own machine. You don't really need to stare on senuke and scrapebox all the time, do you? Build a decent desktop, load all your tools there, add an SSD to your current laptop and you 're set.