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DeIndexed Private Blogs Professional Courtesy

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by thetroglodyte, Mar 5, 2012.

  1. thetroglodyte

    thetroglodyte Power Member

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    If you own a private blog network and have sold your services on BHW and you have sites now DeIndexed. Please do the right thing and take down the posts created so the websites affected with Panda 3.3 have a better and quicker change of recovering.

    I have seen a lot of the old networks just sitting there, posts still in tact. This is both unprofessional and a serious disservice to all BHW members who have used your services.

    Thank you :)
     
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    I will second this. Ops please do the right thing.
     
  3. thetroglodyte

    thetroglodyte Power Member

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    Thanks Manny. If anyone else agrees with this please post your thoughts on the thread. And if you own a private network and have already taken down any deindexed sites, post on here too and let us know your a responsible seller so we should continue to trust your services.
     
  4. everythingred

    everythingred Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Never believed in Blog Networks. You can't think that you can just manipulate Google that obviously without them doing something about it. If Blog Networks continue to take money from people on BHW then that's just wrong.
     
  5. thetroglodyte

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    It's part of how the game is played with Google. Everyone knew it would get slapped sooner or later, however I don't think many people expected the slaps to be this hard or this significant. Even very well ran networks that worked more like good article directories and had good well written content got slapped.

    Still there will be some use to well managed PBN's that adapt to the new rules and if people want to continue using garbage PBN's that's there problem if they continue hurting themselves as it doesn't take much reading to figure out the risk now.

    That being said, my only concern is all the deindexed blogs I am still seeing left in place. Owners moved quickly to replace their domains with new ones, but many did not take down the old sites.

    Until those come down, there is a good chance a very large percentage of websites out there will not recover which could mean 1 - 1.5 years to get back to full strength as those domains simply expire.
     
  6. the_demon

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    Blog Networks are a highly effective seo tactics the problem is when they give out reports there are probably people here on the forum from Google snitching. I think the networks would last a lot longer if they were designed better and did not give out reports.
     
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  7. nik-0

    nik-0 BANNED BANNED

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    I think it's a big hoax from a small group of people that blog networks have become ineffective. None of my sites or client sites has dropped and I use 5 different networks including high PR society and ALN.
     
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    Please explain to me how giving out a report is any different then me submitting an article with an identifier in it?
     
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    jon_xx_x Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    It actually pains me to read that you say you have 'clients'. I really hope it's a lie and you say it to pretend you are an expert. If people are dumb enough to pay you to work on their sites, I definitely need to jump into the SEO business. lol
     
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    nik-0 BANNED BANNED

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    Exactly what I was thinking, not to mention trackbacks (how the hell that works, no clue, but did read about it)
     
  11. nik-0

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    I get my clients great results, you should read my case study for medium competitive search terms. One of my clients already suggested me to his own clients / business associates and my other client just upgraded to a higher paid monthly service after I got him awesome results.

    I know how to rank sites and I am capable of ignoring tons of nonsense that is being spread on the forums lately. Seo is about doing your own thing that works.

    Besides: Never did I claim to be an expert and never will I, but I'm good at what I do, moving sites up.

    ps: it's not easy to get clients, there is a ton of competition in the sales threads
     
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  12. pixelgrinder

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    What about the glaringly obvious footprint of x sites with x amount of the exact same OBL? Not to mention the random content and obvious structure of being created solely for link building. You're delirious if you think these networks were only found by people sending them to g...

    The blog networks are still incredibly effective, they're just not sustainable. Do you really think all of these deindexed networks were a coincidence? How about the recent closed registration of BMR? Just because you haven't experienced the downfall of these networks doesn't mean it isn't true. I, as well as an enormous amount of people on literally every IM forum, have.

    As to the OP, I completely agree with you. If your networks were hit you need to COMMUNICATE with your customers and take them down immediately.
     
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    I don't understand the hang up with giving out reports. I guess the only thing I can see is how immediately some people might spam the hell out of them. But even if they don't get a report, they certainly could see the links in webmaster tools a week or two later, and THEN start spamming them. But since when does 2nd or 3rd tier links kill a site? I'm sure you can with some REALLY bad links, but nobody in their right mind is going to go looking for 2nd tier links from hardcore porn sites. I would hope not anyways...LMAO

    I think it's obvious that "however" they first find out about link networks, G is manually checking them out and then removing them by hand. It's obviously not all of them either.

    Simple truth is that no matter what any of us does, the golden rule still applies: He who has the most gold makes the rules.

    Google has the gold. We all play the game with the understanding that they can change the rules ANY FREAKING TIME THEY WANT TO! And there's not much we can do about it. At least not if ALL you want to do is dominate organic serps.

    Diversity is the key IMHO. And Perseverance too. EVERYONE gets whacked at some point. Roll with the punches and keep on going. Do all you can to have multiple sources of income. Some sites will of course, rely only on organic traffic, but others will not ever use it. That's about all you can do to ensure that you don't go from hero to zero overnight.

    Good luck,
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  14. everythingred

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    I had an SEO service done on BHW that had ALN and my rankings tanked.
     
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  16. nik-0

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    Let me guess, you bought like 500-700 ALN posts that all got distributed in a couple days? Maybe it's just dancing, maybe your site is fairly new, maybe you don't have much other links. My sites and my clients sites already had hundreds of links btw and are all over a year old.
     
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    This is the hidden gem of the month. Everyone should understand this.

    +rep
     
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  18. nik-0

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    You sure got a point there.

    It isn't the first time that BMR closed their registration. I don't know if I really should beleive that all these networks are deindexed, I only read a couple of random posts with not much connection. One guy is saying that all of his sites dropped in rankings after using ALN, then there are a bunch of people (including me) that haven't seen any drops in rankings after using ALN. What I think is that there is a huge psychological effect to all this posts that rolls like a snowball off a hill. One guy claims his rankings dropped, then the next says: "Yeah mine dropped as well" while it could very well be of different causes, then the next, the next, the next, and just as many chime in by saying: "Oh I haven't seen any change in rankings".

    Sorry for repeating myself but I stick to it being a huge hoax. Lately I also bought a service for around $50 to get 700 posts at a blog network ( no idea which one, he claims it's his own, which I find a little hard to beleive but whatever). My site jumped from #8 to #5 and jumped back to #7 the next day. Should I now start to scream, my rankings dropped from #5 to #7? Or should I be realistic that I went from #8 to #7. Guess we both know the answer. After adding more highPRsociety and ALN links during 2 weeks and a bunch of web2.0's I now rank at #4 for that specific keyword.

    Lately I read another ALN case study as well. The guy went from #7 to #11, (the one where I adviced to add some web2.0's where I forgot it was a case study), about a week later he moved to #5 or #6 (don't remember exactly).

    Anyway, let the others scream murder & fire and I'll just keep doing what I've always been doing, using a wide variety of links and many blog networks to spread the "possible risk" and move up in the rankings. Leaves me to say that the majority of links I build come from private/public blog networks.
     
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  19. thetroglodyte

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    You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. Good luck with the next Panda roll out next month.
     
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    You wanna make a side-bet?