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[Dedicated to Pofecker] At Least $100/day using Torrents - SCALABLE AS HELL [2013]

Discussion in 'Torrents' started by youssef93, Mar 27, 2013.

  1. youssef93

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    RIP POFECKER.
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    Alright this thread is dedicated to Pofecker, and if you've taken a look at my last thread you'll know what Pofecker was to me and you'll subsequently know that it is probably a good idea to read this thread till the end because I do not make shares like this every day. :)

    Let's start with some quick warming up :)

    ONE Video, 20 Torrent Uploads (Around 50 MB files), UNTOUCHED (and I really, really mean untouched) since 2010 (torrents still up on TPB TILL THIS DAY and I'm actually a "trusted member" there ;) ). Total about 7 hours work. The result:

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    as well as about 4,300 highly targeted emails that I can promote to again and again
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    NOTE: I had split the traffic among these two networks but stopped with Ad$cend Media after a while cause I needed the Payoneer payments, at the time Ad$cend only offered checks to my country so it was quite inconvenient to me. Also note I blocked EPCs and conversion rates from CPA Lead cause they were showing stuff like 1600% conversions and $3 EPCs :D The guys pruned click stats prior to 2011 so the stats went up crazily cause it showed things like 0 clicks 50 leads :p

    Perhaps by now I have your attention and you might have started to grasp the crazy potential of this method. Alright, let's get started.

    Quick Note:

    - There will be a number of "hidden gems" inside this post for people who actually use their brains. I will not spoon feed anybody but will give you the very "heart" of the method by which we can add a gazillion different twist and expand it easily.

    Requirements:

    - You're expected to have a basic knowledge of how torrents work and how to upload and download them. If not, just Google some free guides for help.
    - Hosting account and domain is a plus although you can easily set this up on a blogspot, web 2.0 site or free subdomain & hosting.
    - If at the end of the thread you're thinking "hmmm isnt that common sense?" or "okay...then"? Then you've most probably missed something so you might wanna reread :)
    - A VPS would help you crazily scale up this method.

    The method:

    For this method you will be downloading popular content from file sharing sites, converting them to torrents and uploading them to popular torrent websites. There's no password protecting .rar archives or any of those things that get your torrents deleted very fast from popular websites.

    Let's go through the steps by example. First we need something popular but not yet shared on popular torrent sites. I find the movie and TV niche to be very hard in this area as anything you can mostly think of would already be uploaded and well seeded by the big guys. So niches to look into: Gaming, Ebooks and apps (but then again you dont wanna go after a popular adobe product that is already shared). For the software niche, you can simply search CNET (download.com) for popular download then go to thepiratebay.org and search for the software there. You wanna go after software that either: aren't shared yet or are shared but poorly seeded or are shared but you can add something to it (example: new version, better crack..etc). So you know it's popular, and you know it isn't shared yet (or meets the other criteria). Now you go search for a full version of the program by googling something like "product name rapidshare" (without quotes) or going to your favorite warez site to find it.

    Now what you choose here is extremely important and you must research it well and match it to the criteria and advises given because your choice can make or break this whole thing. For this example, I'm gonna go with ESET's NOD32 Antivirus. Now I don't even know if it meets any of the criteria and I don't think so but I'm trying to make a point here so bare with me. So I download its full version, repack it in a .rar (without any passwords or anything) and include a message such as "Enjoy the full version of this antivirus! I wasn't sure if people would prefer the antivirus alone or the full security package. For complete security you might wanna download ESET Smart Security which is basically an all in one set and forget solution! Not just an antivirus, but firewall, antispyware..etc Email me at (your email) if you need this and think I should upload this too". You'll include this in the different areas. 1) .rar file description 2) torrent description 3) "read me" text file in the .rar. It's important to include the typical operating instructions such as "1. Unrar 2. Replace crack, run keygen..etc 3) Enjoy" and include the above in a "by the way" manner.

    If I lost you anywhere don't panic, we'll be wrapping this up and summarizing everything at the end. So now you know how to choose a niche, what to upload and what you need to do before uploading. If up till now you did this correctly, you've got the traffic part of this method pretty much covered. And probably covered for a long, long time (I just checked my old torrents dated 2010 and they're still up and running till this very moment on TPB..Why would they be taken down? More on that later.)

    Some experienced folks in here might already be getting the idea. In a nutshell, you're gonna setup an autoresponder (easily done in the settings if you're using gmail or most other providers) and you're gonna send them to a landing page that has a content locking solution implemented. They complete the offer, they get access to the content. A typical example of the autoresponder email would be something along the lines of "Hi, thanks for your interest in (program or app name here), I'm trying to find the time to upload (program) on TPB as I've gotten many requests, but till that happens, it's available for download over here: LP link".

    Now on the landing page, you wanna include information about how ESET smart security is waaaaaaaaay better than getting just the antivirus and how they really need it. (You can use the ESET's site comparison tables for inspiration). Once they click download, the content locker pops up. Through experience, I found it really useful to get straight to the point with these kind of landing pages. Try to make it very short and try to have the download button appear above the fold. Include quick bullet points, comparison tables, graphics and media, stir clear of any kind of landing pages resembling clickbank's or other sales pages of IM products. Just stick to the above and you'll be good.

    Alright now the summary.

    1. Find niche, main product (the one you'll upload) and supplementary product (the one you'll use with your landing page) using the criteria above. Check "Deal Breakers" below for extremely important tips.
    2. Upload the main product using the criteria outlined.
    3. Setup your autoresponder and your landing pages.
    4. Wait for the money to knock your door.

    Why is this so powerful?

    1. Virtually immune to bans because you're uploading QUALITY STUFF.
    2. Crazy conversions and EPCs because the users have learned to trust you from your previous torrent upload that they had just downloaded.
    3. Very highly scalable. More niches, more torrents, more money. And unlike "spammy" scalable techniques, this scaling actually keeps building up cause your old torrents stay forever and you keep adding more, so sky is the limit here.
    4. Incredibly long-term. (My torrents are still up and it's been 3 years)
    5. Self-maintaining. Your old torrents keep getting seeded forever because again, THEY'RE QUALITY TORRENTS!

    Twists:

    This method can be twisted in about a gazillion different way. You're getting an avalanche of torrent traffic from popular websites that have actually allowed you to, with no hit and run or spam methods. Then you funnel in the traffic using email ending up with users that already trust you. Whatever communication you open up with them is entirely up to you. If you're smart enough you could pick a niche that could actually provide you targeted traffic. For instance, users who download Justin Bieber's songs, video clips, concerts...etc are very likely to complete celebrity related offers that you can email them later. I don't wanna put everything in this thread so as to leave a chance for the creative people to add their twists without exposing it all for noobs who just copy and paste. But with the original method, without any kind of twists, this would still do wonders for you.

    Deal Breakers:

    Okay so in this section I will stress on some stuff, with all the steps involved you might rush one or miss something in another so if this method does not work for you (or does not work GREATLY because it really is powerful) then 99.9% the reason is one of those:

    1. Your "supplementary" product or download is not tempting enough. For example, let's say you uploaded Adobe Photoshop. Then in your descriptions and all you pushed the users to email you if they wanna get their hands on Adobe Audition. Now maybe the user is an adobe family fan and is just ecstatic about all adobe products, but this is a long shot. Instead, Adobe Illustrator would have a better shot. You can maybe even link them together in the description with something like "Now that you have Photoshop to retouch photos, you might wanna get your hands on Illustrator, it helps you design high quality graphics from scratch, let me know if you want me to upload it (email here)". But even this might be a long shot. A popular photoshop video training series might be a better deal. They key here is to try to get as close as possible to the user's mind. If he or she is downloading this right here right now, what else could they possibly be dying to download as well that is linked to this in some way? Get this right and it'll skyrocket your conversions. Get it wrong you'll probably fail and anything else won't matter.

    2. Shitty writing. The descriptions, your landing page and your autoresponder email should all be friendly, helpful and as far as possible from spammy. You already have the major advantage that the user has downloaded your stuff and is happy that it works, but you can easily screw things up if you do not follow the landing page / description / email writing tips above.

    3. Main product or supplementary one already on the torrent site. First thing people will do if you tell them "now that you have this, you can also get that!!!" is search for it on the torrent site they downloaded your torrent from. Why bother to email if it's already there? Therefore if you can convince the user that it's something exclusive that they NEED IT but can only get it through you, they are much more likely to just stop searching and email you.

    4. Stuff that doesn't work. This is obvious. You should double check the download you got from your warez site before reuploading. This shouldn't be a hassle since you'll already be unpacking it for the repack.

    5. SEEEEEEEEEED. VPS helps here. But even if you don't have one, try to leave torrents for at least 3-5 days in your torrent client to seed. If they're quality then they'll eventually pick up seeders but if you don't make sure your torrent "takes off" with this initial push, then it'll just die. Usually if it doesn't pick up seeders in a few days then it's probably not popular enough in the first place and you should just move on.

    Support & Questions:

    Unfortunately I do not have time to answer PMs with regards to this thread. PMs will be ignored. You have two options for help:

    - Ask in this thread as may questions as you want and I will try to answer them all for the sake of everyone's benefit.

    - For one-on-one support, or help with specific case-by-case issues, start a journey in "My journeys" section, kindly include in the thread a link to this thread for other people's reference and commit to the journey for at least 1 week. After one week, PM me your thread and I'll have a look at what you have done so far, I'll then try to help you with whatever issues you're having, maybe via skype or even a phone call or so if I see that you're making an effort ;). The reason I'm asking for this is obvious, I see that you're genuinely "taking action", I help you.

    This took quite a bit of time to write so I really hope I didn't miss anything. :)

    Apologies for the long thread, but I hope that if you've read this far that it has been worth it.

    IMPORTANT NOTE: Please do not use any example "products" listed in here because I highly doubt they meet any of the criteria we've discussed earlier. They're just there to make a couple of points.

    Dedicated to Pofecker - RIP

    Although this is my very own method, this thread is dedicated to Pofecker. For those who don't know Pofecker was an administrator here and he changed my life. That's the short version. You can find the long one in a previous thread of mine. He's now gone. If this method helps you in any way, remember that you owe him in some way or another so please pray for him. Rest in peace, PO. Rest in peace. :)
     
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  2. Ibeefaaa

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    I'm using this method in the adult niche + a little twist but I'm not even close to your success.
    Good luck to anyone trying this !
     
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    Nice method and very well written. Thanks :beerchug:
     
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    reps not much but I repped you, thanks man
     
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    YAY! I was reading about the lock .rar method from 2010 and it does not work that well. I just scanned your post but I get the idea of it. Really nice! P.S Tim Hortens for the win eh? *fistpump*

    Thanks for this! (ps how to give thanks here?)
     
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    thanks a lot youssef for this method it can automated too and rip pofecker
     
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    shailzrocks Jr. Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    A great tribute!

    Those who never got a chance to make a buck with IM.. This is for you.. Don't Slack TAKE ACTION
     
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    Yes they do !
    You have to cover your ass, I learned this when I got a phone call from my ISP telling me to delete some stupid movie I downloaded from TPB and I was seeding from my PC. They forwarded me an e-mail they got from some anti-piracy service called WebSheriff if I recall correctly.
     
  9. youssef93

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    I don't worry about that since middle eastern countries aren't that big on copyright laws yet sooo..... Another reason would be that you typically won't be going after stuff from those major companies as they already have popular popular torrents everywhere. A VPS would help in that aspect as well. Are both of you guys based in the US?

    The letter you received disgusts me. Who are they to violate users' privacy in this crazy manner? How would they know whether you deleted the movie or not anyway? Just use a VPN or something. I dunno who gave those people the right to play God and control everything you do on the internet in the name of copyright. You own a copyright? Fine go after distributors, sue big filesharing companies.. But going after everyday users who download stuff? Sorry for the little off-topic rant :D
     
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    Thread ending made me shred a tear..
    Respect brother!
    RIP Pofecker!
     
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    R.I.P. PO, Nice share, really nice bro. So nice and valuable what you do. Rep given!
    RIP PO again.
     
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    So what could be popular, not shared on TPB and can be supplemented with something else that's popular too ? A bit hard to find such a share - at least for me
     
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    thanks for this, I will take action and try this. RIP Pofecker, I personally don't know much about him but the way I can see it, he seems to be a great guy and an icon here in BHW. respect.
     
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    RIP PO


    " There will be a number of "hidden gems" inside this post"

    hmmmmm

    Im from the US so i wont be doing this but well written



    Thanks
     
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    Thanks for the share, but I'm a little confused by your earnings as your title mentions $100 per day, yet your earnings from the 7 hours work of uploading 20 torrents has yielded $242.44 since 2010 (assuming 3 years here). It thus seems to me that if I commit 7 hours per day to uploading 20 torrents I can earn $250 over the next 3 years which is about $0.23 per day over the period. To ramp this up to $100 per day, I'd have to invest 3045 hours (435 x 7 hour working days).

    Unless I am missing something here, I can't see how this method is viable. If my calculations are wrong, please update the thread with the correct earnings from the method.
     
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  16. youssef93

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    If I found things, then so can you. Try not to lock yourself up in the movie and TV series box. Step back and think about popular CONTENT. And by the way it does not have to be super popular. With my niche each torrent I have averages around 20 seeders now (and it's been four years).

    You can also twist the approach a little bit more. Go to your favorite warez site and start surfing. You'll find a lot of stuff that aren't shared on TPB. People think TPB is the download God just because you can find virtually any movie or TV shows in there. But there are untapped niches. That's the small thing that you have to do, can't do anything for you now, can I? :) Best of luck and let me know if you have other questions!
     
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    I actually found something already, just to be sure I've also did a keyword research and amazingly 8,000+ exact match searches and it's not currently available in TBP. I'm thinking of using this in Youtube+PPD as well. lol
     
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    Hahaha great question! Actually there are two screenshots but one of them died so I need to reup that. The other one was for $1,700 from CPA Lead. Traffic was spread over those two.

    Additionally, the 20 torrent uploads took about 4 hours. The landing page took 3 and it was one landing page for the 20 torrents as they were closely related.

    Hope it makes more sense now Thanks for the input!
     
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    Thanks, that makes a BIG difference. You have averaged $1.77 per day over 3 years from your initial 7 hours work, now it's still way short of $100 per day, but would take less than a month of work to get there. Will spend some time experimenting with this for sure.
     
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    very nice method, SOme thing great after so long time, with detailed steps, For your landing page, those people who do not have hosting, then just check my giveaway for free hosting, for newbie, Hope this will help too.
    Thanks