Deciding on YouTube keywords method

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I want to ask you guys something, how exactly do you decide on keywords for your videos. Currently I pick them via KeySearch and then check how many results show on YouTube. Unfortunately there's no tool/exact way to know how many searches YouTube keywords get.

I try and use common sense mostly, I check the top ranked videos as well and analyse their tags, and then break them down. What about you guys, perhaps you have some tips to share.
 
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DesX said:
Tubebuddy/VidIQ does this pretty well.
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I have TubeBuddy but how accurate is their data, I know you can add the tags and it shows search data but I've read a lot of posts elsewhere about it being inaccueate.
 
Mr Cracker said:
I have TubeBuddy but how accurate is their data, I know you can add the tags and it shows search data but I've read a lot of posts elsewhere about it being inaccueate.
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IMO I dont think Tubebuddy is "accurate" but I don't think it is too far off. To top that off it cuts off so many time spent researching keywords during the upload process that I don't really mind it being inaccurate as long as it isn't too far off. I dont have too much experience with VidIQ so I cant speak for that, but Tubebuddy isn't half bad.
 
Mr Cracker said:
I have TubeBuddy but how accurate is their data, I know you can add the tags and it shows search data but I've read a lot of posts elsewhere about it being inaccueate.
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If I remember correctly, there isn't any official data about search volume etc (there's nothing like the AdWords Kw Tool for YouTube), so everything Tubebuddy displays is just an estimate / extrapolation of the data they collect.
 
DesX said:
IMO I dont think Tubebuddy is "accurate" but I don't think it is too far off. To top that off it cuts off so many time spent researching keywords during the upload process that I don't really mind it being inaccurate as long as it isn't too far off. I dont have too much experience with VidIQ so I cant speak for that, but Tubebuddy isn't half bad.
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Nonilol said:
If I remember correctly, there isn't any official data about search volume etc (there's nothing like the AdWords Kw Tool for YouTube), so everything Tubebuddy displays is just an estimate / extrapolation of the data they collect.
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Yup, that's the problem, there's no real way of knowing. I always assume if a keyword is getting big searches on Google, that it should be getting some high searches via YouTube too, however having tested many times it's not always the case. I'm hoping others can chime in with some advice on this.
 
moonshine7000 said:
There is a feature in youtube analytics called search traffic you click that and you will see which keywords that your video get views from.That will gave a rough idea the frequency what people are search from Youtube.
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Ah yes, I know about that it's good. Problem is though you must optimize for keywords you're unsure about beforehand. I would like to get an idea how profitable they are without testing first.
 
Mr Cracker said:
Ah yes, I know about that it's good. Problem is though you must optimize for keywords you're unsure about beforehand. I would like to get an idea how profitable they are without testing first.
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That is only way because Youtube got rid of the their keyword tool so have rank first and collect data.
 
As moonshine7000 said, ranking for a keyword and digging into the analytics data is the only accurate method, because there is currently no tool which will give you search volumes. Tubebuddy and VidIQ are not accurate at all in my experience. This is from Tubebuddy: "Unfortunately there is no precise data available when it comes to search volume and competition. We work in relative terms and compare search results to other search results on YouTube."
 
I have been using VidIQ for quite sometime now. While the results shown cannot be validated yet I would like to believe they aren't far off from reality. I had tested two keywords as per their competition level suggestion and the result was as expected. The video slightly difficult keyword ranks somewhere between 10 to 15th position from the top, while the easier one has made its way up on top 5.
If you are looking for a reliable source then I suggest you should try google trends. Once you enter you keyword select your traffic source as "YouTube". You don't get data for very recent period but you do get trends month on month specific to YouTube. Alternatively they also suggest similar keywords searched on YouTube. Hope it helps.
 
moonshine7000 said:
That is only way because Youtube got rid of the their keyword tool so have rank first and collect data.
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BENNY8877 said:
As moonshine7000 said, ranking for a keyword and digging into the analytics data is the only accurate method, because there is currently no tool which will give you search volumes. Tubebuddy and VidIQ are not accurate at all in my experience. This is from Tubebuddy: "Unfortunately there is no precise data available when it comes to search volume and competition. We work in relative terms and compare search results to other search results on YouTube."
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SwiftDealer said:
I have been using VidIQ for quite sometime now. While the results shown cannot be validated yet I would like to believe they aren't far off from reality. I had tested two keywords as per their competition level suggestion and the result was as expected. The video slightly difficult keyword ranks somewhere between 10 to 15th position from the top, while the easier one has made its way up on top 5.
If you are looking for a reliable source then I suggest you should try google trends. Once you enter you keyword select your traffic source as "YouTube". You don't get data for very recent period but you do get trends month on month specific to YouTube. Alternatively they also suggest similar keywords searched on YouTube. Hope it helps.
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What about relying just on Google AdWords results then, I guess that's the best way really. Also if you search in YouTube's box for suggestions, those should be decent long tailed keywords too.
 
Mr Cracker said:
What about relying just on Google AdWords results then, I guess that's the best way really. Also if you search in YouTube's box for suggestions, those should be decent long tailed keywords too.
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Well Google Adwords is always present but I have seen that search method & volume in Google and YT have a huge difference. Basing your keywords for YT based on Adwords is not very advisable. For example, a keyword that may show high number of searches in Google may hardly receive any search volume on YT. You can verify this on trends google.
 
People seem to search differently on YouTube. The majority of the time if you took a keyword that Google said had high search volume and plugged into the YT search bar you'd see a bunch of videos with low view counts at the top of the page. Of course, it depends on what amount of traffic you're looking for . YouTube's suggestions are a good idea to ensure that there will be traffic for that term, but it's hard to determine what the exact amount will be. From what I can tell, the suggestions that are at the top of the list will get the most volume.
 
BENNY8877 said:
People seem to search differently on YouTube. The majority of the time if you took a keyword that Google said had high search volume and plugged into the YT search bar you'd see a bunch of videos with low view counts at the top of the page. Of course, it depends on what amount of traffic you're looking for . YouTube's suggestions are a good idea to ensure that there will be traffic for that term, but it's hard to determine what the exact amount will be. From what I can tell, the suggestions that are at the top of the list will get the most volume.
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I noticed they have placed suggestions sometimes, at the bottom of the pages via video results.
 
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