Decent Freelance Sites?

Jetsetskyking

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I can't seem to find any freelance sites that work. People on all the sites i tried are selecting people who work for extremely low rates, understandably, so what the hell is everyone else doing?

I've tried freelancer.com
upwork.com
guru.com
and no luck. On guru and freelancer, people are bidding extremely low, so i expect the issue to be the same with upwork? what can i do to find work and build a portfolio of paid work.
 
Start doing some work for an extremely cheap price, build yourself a portfolio and reputation. Then you can start to charge more.
 
Clients who use those websites to hire people do so because they don't know where they should go to hire people. The people who don't how who to hire are usually people who have never hired the right person or can't afford a lot.

I have an account on Upwork and I only use it for people to invite me to jobs. I've closed $4,000/month deals on there but 90% of people posting are looking to pay under $300/month.

Largely, the people who work on Upwork (in the SEO realm) are scams. They don't know anything about SEO and build social bookmarks all day but they get hired because they charge $3/hour or $50/month.

If your mechanic told you he'd replace your transmission for $30 you'd know to run like hell (assuming you know it's $x,xxx to do such a thing) because you know there's something fishy going on. But if an SEO tells an ignorant (not arrogant, at least not always) business owner SEO will only cost $50/month and they'll rank #1 within a month and someone else comes along saying it'll cost $1,500/month and take 3-6 months - who looks like the scam to them?

TLDR; Weed out the shit. Apply to as many jobs as you can that look like the job was posted by someone competent.

PS:

When I used to actively apply to jobs on Upwork I'd apply twice a month to about 15-20 jobs each time. on average Of those 20 (to keep math simple) about 10 (50%) would interview me and of those 10 interviews, 1 (10% of 50%) would hire me. The other 9 either decided they didn't want to pay for real SEO or I decided not to move forward with them for reasons other than payment. Point being, you're looking for a needle in a haystack but if you torch the haystack (apply in bulk) things will move faster. Don't expect to convert every time, sometimes you can go months without landing a single client. The goal is to land the good ones which will carry you at least until you find another client.
 
Clients who use those websites to hire people do so because they don't know where they should go to hire people. The people who don't how who to hire are usually people who have never hired the right person or can't afford a lot.

I have an account on Upwork and I only use it for people to invite me to jobs. I've closed $4,000/month deals on there but 90% of people posting are looking to pay under $300/month.

Largely, the people who work on Upwork (in the SEO realm) are scams. They don't know anything about SEO and build social bookmarks all day but they get hired because they charge $3/hour or $50/month.

If your mechanic told you he'd replace your transmission for $30 you'd know to run like hell (assuming you know it's $x,xxx to do such a thing) because you know there's something fishy going on. But if an SEO tells an ignorant (not arrogant, at least not always) business owner SEO will only cost $50/month and they'll rank #1 within a month and someone else comes along saying it'll cost $1,500/month and take 3-6 months - who looks like the scam to them?

TLDR; Weed out the shit. Apply to as many jobs as you can that look like the job was posted by someone competent.

PS:

When I used to actively apply to jobs on Upwork I'd apply twice a month to about 15-20 jobs each time. on average Of those 20 (to keep math simple) about 10 (50%) would interview me and of those 10 interviews, 1 (10% of 50%) would hire me. The other 9 either decided they didn't want to pay for real SEO or I decided not to move forward with them for reasons other than payment. Point being, you're looking for a needle in a haystack but if you torch the haystack (apply in bulk) things will move faster. Don't expect to convert every time, sometimes you can go months without landing a single client. The goal is to land the good ones which will carry you at least until you find another client.
Helpful, and applicable advice, but I feel like there has to be way to better spend time than a near 1/100 odd of landing clients. I'd rather work for free and at least be getting better.
 
Do some work at cheap price and build a reputation. with an increased reputation you can get more works. try Damongo, freelance and elance
 
Elance?, seriously, do some simple research before giving any advice.

Do some work at cheap price and build a reputation. with an increased reputation you can get more works. try Damongo, freelance and elance
 
Besides what everyone says about Upwork.com, I have to disagree with most of them. I had a pleasant experience with Upwork, and several jobs that I manage to get done there lead to another job and so on. Most people just don't have the patience to start growing their freelancer profiles, or they simply overestimate their skills, there are a lot of great professionals on Upwork and you have to offer something else to stand out from the crowd . The thing is, you have to do some hard work to begin growing your reputation.
 
I would also advocate not lowering your prices drastically, as once you are tagged as a cheap provider, that label is hard to shed. Instead focus on your proposals, come up with a USP, stand out from the crowd. Make sure your profile is top notch, pro headshot, profile filled out properly, don't mix and match skills that are not related to each other.
 
Helpful, and applicable advice, but I feel like there has to be way to better spend time than a near 1/100 odd of landing clients. I'd rather work for free and at least be getting better.

I spent maybe 10 minutes a month sending proposals. As long as it hits all the right points, you'll get a response.

Keep in mind that my rate was also $20-$30/hour so if you're lower than that you can expect a higher response rate.
 
I've done jobs, and hired on Upwork. I've been impressed with both.

I worked in the design niche and would usually submit a partially completed project with the brief. When my profile was green it added a lot of credibility.

I would encourage you to hire on Upwork. Even if it's a small job, you'll start to notice some of the things that the top performers do to differentiate their bids.

-Paul
 
why depend on freelance sites? u can just build a portfolio website
post ur job offer in classified ads website like craigslist.
i've landed a couple of clients there and bank in 4 figures per month.
i've also done FB ads to attract clients in my local, just put some effort to approach them proactively.
freelance site is really hard to land a client.
 
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