pyronaut
Senior Member
- Dec 9, 2008
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So often i see threads about CPA Lead being a terrible network, or shaving like crazy, or banning you for no reason. Most of this is completely unfounded and i would love for someone to post proof contrary to what im about to post.
To be honest, i think BHCB is fine, and so is Olden's new app. (In fact oldens is actually damn good and a real step up from BHCB). Im not going to say anything about how CPA Lead is better then these two alternatives, or how the two alternatives are better then CPA Lead in some ways (Which they are in certain aspects), there is plenty of info out there, but there is just so much BS about CPA Lead floating around.
First Off, CPA Lead doesnt shave leads. Put it this way, i sit comfortably on 25% conversion ratio. If they are shaving and im still sitting at 25% for most of the day, then hell i really could not care less. 25% ratio is damn good and better then what most newbie networks (Think maxbounty, XY7 etc) will let you have.
Next, CPA Lead doesnt shave clicks. Usually the comeback when i say that im sitting on 25% is that CPA Lead are shaving clicks. A while back i was testing a few offers through proxies, mostly to check what kind of offers CPA Lead had and what the landing pages actually looked like. While doing it i was aware at the time that people were saying CPA Lead pads stats by shaving clicks. NOT ONCE during my time of checking landing pages did clicks not show up or get removed from my account. ANYONE with a CPA Lead account can test this. Open an offer for your country in your browser, and see if the click registers. It's such an easy thing to test and yet the myth exists.
There is also the issue that CPA Lead have low paying offers. I would just like to point out that i dont really care what the offer pays. I care about its EPC. Since we have already determined that CPA Lead isnt shaving clicks we know that whatever EPC we get is real. Generally speaking, i can easily sit over a 0.15 EPC. When CPA Lead gets its hands on good mobile offers this easily rises. You also have to remember that EPC is also related to the country it is coming from. So often people send a shit tonne of garbage traffic from 2nd rate countries (No offence meant, i live in one of them
), and then expect CPA Lead to make them trillions. Sure i agree, CPA Lead has a tonne of offers that are like 50 cents each, but they convert like crazy and thats all i care about. Relative to 1.50 submits, you are (In my mind) likely to earn more with the 50 cent submit.
Another supposed issue is that CPA Lead just get their offers from other networks. For a while im sure this was true. But quite often now i am seeing offers that i cannot find on any other network (Or through offer vault). And trust me, the landers show that its some weird advertiser who just spits out surveys like nobodys business. At the time of writing this atleast, i am 100% sure that CPA Lead is going direct to merchants for most of its offers.
The last thing about them banning people.Admittedly i do know one or two people who have been banned from there. However my experience with them has been fine. Aslong as your not using adult traffic you are OK. I have been with them since mid last year, doing medium size numbers. At one point i was having $500 dollar days, and then the next day having something like $3 (Loonnggg story, old method, doesnt work anymore), and they never once questioned what was going on.
This post isnt about me drumming up referrals to my link (Infact my link isnt even contained here!), and i dont offer coaching or anything like that. I have nothing to gain from this post, im just getting sick of people bagging CPA Lead when 1. Half of them dont even belong to the network, 2. Its just pure crap that is completely unproven.
To be honest, i think BHCB is fine, and so is Olden's new app. (In fact oldens is actually damn good and a real step up from BHCB). Im not going to say anything about how CPA Lead is better then these two alternatives, or how the two alternatives are better then CPA Lead in some ways (Which they are in certain aspects), there is plenty of info out there, but there is just so much BS about CPA Lead floating around.
First Off, CPA Lead doesnt shave leads. Put it this way, i sit comfortably on 25% conversion ratio. If they are shaving and im still sitting at 25% for most of the day, then hell i really could not care less. 25% ratio is damn good and better then what most newbie networks (Think maxbounty, XY7 etc) will let you have.
Next, CPA Lead doesnt shave clicks. Usually the comeback when i say that im sitting on 25% is that CPA Lead are shaving clicks. A while back i was testing a few offers through proxies, mostly to check what kind of offers CPA Lead had and what the landing pages actually looked like. While doing it i was aware at the time that people were saying CPA Lead pads stats by shaving clicks. NOT ONCE during my time of checking landing pages did clicks not show up or get removed from my account. ANYONE with a CPA Lead account can test this. Open an offer for your country in your browser, and see if the click registers. It's such an easy thing to test and yet the myth exists.
There is also the issue that CPA Lead have low paying offers. I would just like to point out that i dont really care what the offer pays. I care about its EPC. Since we have already determined that CPA Lead isnt shaving clicks we know that whatever EPC we get is real. Generally speaking, i can easily sit over a 0.15 EPC. When CPA Lead gets its hands on good mobile offers this easily rises. You also have to remember that EPC is also related to the country it is coming from. So often people send a shit tonne of garbage traffic from 2nd rate countries (No offence meant, i live in one of them
), and then expect CPA Lead to make them trillions. Sure i agree, CPA Lead has a tonne of offers that are like 50 cents each, but they convert like crazy and thats all i care about. Relative to 1.50 submits, you are (In my mind) likely to earn more with the 50 cent submit.Another supposed issue is that CPA Lead just get their offers from other networks. For a while im sure this was true. But quite often now i am seeing offers that i cannot find on any other network (Or through offer vault). And trust me, the landers show that its some weird advertiser who just spits out surveys like nobodys business
. At the time of writing this atleast, i am 100% sure that CPA Lead is going direct to merchants for most of its offers. The last thing about them banning people.Admittedly i do know one or two people who have been banned from there. However my experience with them has been fine. Aslong as your not using adult traffic you are OK. I have been with them since mid last year, doing medium size numbers. At one point i was having $500 dollar days, and then the next day having something like $3 (Loonnggg story, old method, doesnt work anymore
), and they never once questioned what was going on. This post isnt about me drumming up referrals to my link (Infact my link isnt even contained here!), and i dont offer coaching or anything like that. I have nothing to gain from this post, im just getting sick of people bagging CPA Lead when 1. Half of them dont even belong to the network, 2. Its just pure crap that is completely unproven.
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