Debt Collectors Paypal?

NCO group ain't even a government entity?

Your parents might eventually find out, yes, because debtors are infamous to do everything in their power to collect the debt which includes trying to scare into it.

But other than that, for 900, they sure won't pursue you. First, you are 16 so they know the chance of getting this money is slight to none. And second, they operate under a fee. It's gonna cost them way more to try to collect the debt after a few attempts.

Comply if your government contacts you about this matter. Otherwise you are pretty much safe.
 
NCO group ain't even a government entity?

Your parents might eventually find out, yes, because debtors are infamous to do everything in their power to collect the debt which includes trying to scare into it.

But other than that, for 900, they sure won't pursue you. First, you are 16 so they know the chance of getting this money is slight to none. And second, they operate under a fee. It's gonna cost them way more to try to collect the debt after a few attempts.

Comply if your government contacts you about this matter. Otherwise you are pretty much safe.

You clearly know nothing about what you are talking about. It's nothing to do with any government, it is a civil matter. Debt collectors add their fees to what they are trying to collect so you end up having a bigger bill to pay if it gets that far. Nobody knows how far it will go but Paypal and the debt collectors don't have multi billion dollar business's by letting people off.

I think he should tell his parents as I would think that is going to be his biggest worry. They will find out soon enough with letters and phone calls to the house and probably a few knocks on the door at inconvenient times. They can pursue it for years and just keep appearing when they want to. Anyone being cute and telling him to force them not to call etc is a waste of time as they then transfer the debt to another division or a different agency. Any advice to ignore it is seriously bad advice. I would imagine that it is also a felony in most states to sign a financial document and falsely declaring you are of legal age for financial transactions. That might not be the crime of the century but you can't break the law and then complain when it's used against you. Best course of action is tell your parents because I am sure they dont want a knock early one Sunday morning. Maybe they can lend you some money and agree to pay the collectors off a little at a time.
 
You clearly know nothing about what you are talking about. It's nothing to do with any government, it is a civil matter. Debt collectors add their fees to what they are trying to collect so you end up having a bigger bill to pay if it gets that far. Nobody knows how far it will go but Paypal and the debt collectors don't have multi billion dollar business's by letting people off.

I think he should tell his parents as I would think that is going to be his biggest worry. They will find out soon enough with letters and phone calls to the house and probably a few knocks on the door at inconvenient times. They can pursue it for years and just keep appearing when they want to. Anyone being cute and telling him to force them not to call etc is a waste of time as they then transfer the debt to another division or a different agency. Any advice to ignore it is seriously bad advice. I would imagine that it is also a felony in most states to sign a financial document and falsely declaring you are of legal age for financial transactions. That might not be the crime of the century but you can't break the law and then complain when it's used against you. Best course of action is tell your parents because I am sure they dont want a knock early one Sunday morning. Maybe they can lend you some money and agree to pay the collectors off a little at a time.

Clearly know nothing? You know nothing about how much I know

All debts have a period of limitation. And since PayPal And NCO are companies ran for profit, they won't exceed the budget worth pursuing. We are not talking 1M, we are not talking 100k, it's about 900.
 
Paypal can't do anything! At least this counts for EU, I assume in USA it is similar:

Paypal broke the law by not checking your age, you are not allowed to have a credit card (by definition paypal is a credit giver).
So they can never sue you, in fact you don't even owe them any money, because you are not a valid partner of contract with paypal (in most european countries in general under 18).

The contract they want you to have had with them never existed!

This is one of many reasons why I support Sherbert's solution. -> Ignore them.

Were you in Europe you could even sue them for harrasment, defamation and breaking privacy laws (they did by giving out your datas, datas of a minor even worse!)!
 
Paypal can't do anything! At least this counts for EU, I assume in USA it is similar:

Paypal broke the law by not checking your age, you are not allowed to have a credit card (by definition paypal is a credit giver).
So they can never sue you, in fact you don't even owe them any money, because you are not a valid partner of contract with paypal (in most european countries in general under 18).

The contract they want you to have had with them never existed!

This is one of many reasons why I support Sherbert's solution. -> Ignore them.

Were you in Europe you could even sue them for harrasment, defamation and breaking privacy laws (they did by giving out your datas, datas of a minor even worse!)!

He broke the law. So using your theory... I dont have a driving license... I get caught driving..and I cant be prosecuted. Yeah right. And I am in the EU so that why I said I think it would be a felony in the US. It is a crime in the EU (ie UK) to falsify information on a financial transaction. Paypal by definition is not a credit giver and he has no credit card, they are a payment processor which he broke the law to use. As I said nobody knows how far Paypal and the collectors will go. They might do nothing or they might go the full monty and report the person. Anyway Im off out to drive a motorbike, I dont have a motorbike license but at least I know your theory will save me.
 
He broke the law. So using your theory... I dont have a driving license... I get caught driving..and I cant be prosecuted. Yeah right. And I am in the EU so that why I said I think it would be a felony in the US. It is a crime in the EU (ie UK) to falsify information on a financial transaction. Paypal by definition is not a credit giver and he has no credit card, they are a payment processor which he broke the law to use. As I said nobody knows how far Paypal and the collectors will go. They might do nothing or they might go the full monty and report the person. Anyway Im off out to drive a motorbike, I dont have a motorbike license but at least I know your theory will save me.


There is a big difference that you failed to see.
Under 18 he CAN NOT make a contract with paypal (this is for sure against banking regulations even in US). And paypal gives credit in many cases, like for example if you have only a bank account in your paypal (verified) then paypal will charge the bank account later (not direcly), therefor paypal gives you a credit, same as mastercard or visa.
Now the difference is: A driving license is, of course, not a contract. Also driving without a license is a "Penal Crime" not Civil. By driving without a license you are breaking the law (laws are the only form of contract not requiring a party to sign it).
A contract with someone who was by law not allowed to be a party of the contract is NEVER valid.

If I sell you a house, which I do not own, and you sign the contract and pay it even. That would be fraud from my side of course, because the contract would not be valid, as I was never authorized to sell the house (not being the owner).
If I would in fact own the house, and in the contract or in country law it would state you can only sign a contract if you are at least 18 years old and you are not (in that example), and you would pay me the house, the contract would not be valid as well. I would have to give you back the money and you me the house.

Falsifying information.. Where do you see that? For example, years ago, I had a ebay account and when paypal tookover ebay, I could make a paypal account without being asked for my age, as well as paypal did not check the age of my ebay account (I was under 18).

Paypal asks nearly nothing of data by the way (still not).

NCO. This places you in the US. In the US a juvenile cannot enter into a legally binding contract. Not with Paypal, not with anybody. While you may have technically broken the law by misrepresenting your age, you are not legally liable in a civil action.
And this is the reason why paypal broke the law for letting a minor sign up without any checks of age (even not entering the ID number etc) and broke the law for giving out private data (name, financial records, address) of a MINOR to a third party! This is heavily punishable in EU (we are speaking here some thousands of euros at least for compensation).

This matter is so minor that there would be no criminal prosecution. Paypal is at fault because they failed to properly vet you and your age. They have a duty to verify, this does not mean a checkbox on a web form.

this guy knows what he is takling about!
 
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Which clearly you do not.

What you stated in your previous post seemed just like an opinion with zero fact. (with your offensive comment but I understood that was just there to strenghten your own opinion). Nothing wrong with holding strong onto an opinion or belief of yours but please treat people nicely!

PayPal too have an obligation to follow the KYC routine in order to operate under a valid license.
 
Happened to me over 5 years ago when i used to sell on ebay ,ive payed the debt, moved house twice ,i think they track you by council tax, as i still have a mark for paypal, on my credit rating. your best to pay it if you can.As soon as you can.
 
What you stated in your previous post seemed just like an opinion with zero fact. (with your offensive comment but I understood that was just there to strenghten your own opinion). Nothing wrong with holding strong onto an opinion or belief of yours but please treat people nicely!

PayPal too have an obligation to follow the KYC routine in order to operate under a valid license.

I wasn't being offensive I was just saying you are wrong.
 
Under 18 he CAN NOT make a contract with paypal (this is for sure against banking regulations even in US)

but if the user in question provides fake docs to paypal to use there service
miss-leading pp to believe hes 18 the whole time, blame falls as much to paypal
as it does to the user for deception.
 
be a man not a boy.

phone then up tell them your 16 explain what went wrong
be brave i am sure there come to some payment plan.....

tell mum and dad what happen and exspect a debt letter
with a sceduled payback scheme ....

take if on the chin.

never run from Debt creditors face them make a payment plan simple.
 
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I don't see why everyone talks about Paypal. Paypal is out of the picture the second they sold his debt to the collector, they got their % back and the burden falls to the collector. Now we know 75% of the posts above are useless, let's move on. I will do the research for you I guess:
Official
https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0347-your-equal-credit-opportunity-rights

What anybody said online (like here)
http://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/can-a-collection-agency-hold-a-minor-responsible-f-413247.html
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money...it-dotcom-debt-collector-5-year-old/28166033/
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130201162124AArsI3P
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/illegal-debt-collection-practices.html
 
I managed to get a 485$ debt with paypal when i was 17 after a chargeback.. this people made my life a hell, even calling my aunt and shit. They would call my mom and say, but he's your son, it's your problem! Even though maybe legally, you could go around this, it's not worth the hassle. Nobody believed that it was not my mistake back then, so i just payed all even though i was scammed.. for people under 18 making debt, the parents are responsible.. if you guys think that as a minor you can go around making debt everywhere, then everyone would be scamming companies this way, it doesn't work, parents are responsible if the minor fucks up in such cases.
 
so it goes to next of kin, so he mum or dad will cop it, there no escape a debt is a debt, depends if address given was same as parents tho.

but if the user in question provides fake docs to paypal to use there service
miss-leading pp to believe hes 18 the whole time, blame falls as much to paypal
as it does to the user for deception.
 
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Fjaer

Like I stated in my first post in this topic, creditors job is to collect the debt with any necessary means. And very very often do they act on psychological pressure such as fear. It's what they are famous for. They want you to be scared, and they WILL use social pressure to get you to pay. Very often do they fall out of the legal scoop anyway, that is not unheard of.

This sounds like a case he would win in court anyway. It'd be extremely costly for every one of them (guessing some 30k in legal fees excluding lawyer).

Go on with your life and meet them like a man, just tell them to leave you alone. Consider this equivalent to a DMCA or C&D.
I cannot comment too much on this case though as TS doesn't state what actually happend for him to get the debt.
 
No guys listen this wasn't my fault it was complete bs and I fucked up because I accidentally connected my savings account to paypal creating a lot of $48 nso fees. That's why I just want to leave they already got their money from the fees already...
 
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