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De-ranking competitors pages: Anyone know how?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by BigBlue, Aug 13, 2009.

  1. BigBlue

    BigBlue Regular Member

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    Hey I am wondering if anybody has the scoop
    on the blackhat practice of de-ranking your competitors
    pages in the serps.

    I have been building sites and ranking well for a certain niche,
    but at the top of most of the highest searched keywords there
    is a guy with a page that eludes to the niche being a scam. He
    is holding the number one spot pretty firmly for a few keywords
    receiving the bulk of the traffic for this niche. His page serves as
    a pretty big deterrent to anyone doing research on whether or
    not they would like to buy.

    I am wondering if there is some sneaky blackhat practices I can
    put into use to get him de-ranked. I am tired of him shoo-ing away
    customers.
     
  2. Micallef

    Micallef Supreme Member

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    This might help you.

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/107559-known-bad-neighborhoods.html

    You might also want to get them a few hundred links on matt cutts' personal blog (it works).

    Or, report them to google for spamming, after you add their link to some obvious spam pages. If they're using a web 2.0 platform as-well, report them for spam.

    Often however, these just don't cut it, and you have to out compete sites the hard way. You can do it.
     
  3. neo

    neo Power Member

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    Spaming his links might help if he doesn't have good quality links.
    However you are going on the negative track. Instead of trying to get ahead of him you are trying to get him down which is a negative attitude and will not help you to succeed in long run.
    You might be able to pull him down, but if another guy gets that spot. You will be continuously trying to get your competitors down. Instead you can spend the same time and efforts to boost your own site.
     
  4. BigBlue

    BigBlue Regular Member

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    Thanks for the replies guys. I will check out that thread.

    Well I am not necessarily going on the negative. This guy
    isn't exactly a competitor. He is a guy who is teaching a lot of
    people that the niche is a scam, so he is lowering the amount of
    sales made in the niche. I am fine with just out ranking competitors
    selling a product in the niche, but this guys page is meant to
    stop the niche as a whole.

    even if I out rank him, he will still then be #2 and people will still read
    his page about how the niche is a scam.

    I don't mind giving out the niche... Type in satellite tv for pc or satellite
    tv on pc and you will see this guys page at the top talking about
    how the niche is a scam. It's just one of his side pages. He
    randomly reviews products from as much as I can tell on his site.

    I am just trying to figure out a way to get this page de-ranked
    because I am sure his page is having a negative effect on the
    niche, expecially with it's 250 comments on his page.

    This subject comes up other times as well when one is dealing
    with a crazy popular authority page like wiki, amazon, ebay forum
    results. So it would be nice to know some methods to get
    around pages like this.
     
  5. neo

    neo Power Member

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    It will be tough to de-rank him since the guy got links from .gov and edu pages as well.

    I would say you target similar keywords with another webpage+a number of web2 properties. You need to mention in your webpage that there is scam in Satellite PC niche, but the ones you are suggesting are pretty good. The people who read Bob's site definitely would like a second opinion and would like to see more sites with similar opinion. If they all they get sales pitch the surfers will not be happy.
    So confirm their suspicion and recommend your sponsor as a good guy.

    -Neo

    PS: As a matter of fact Satellite TV on PC is really a scam ;)
     
  6. BigBlue

    BigBlue Regular Member

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    ya thanks neo. That is the way I am going with my page. Picked a product without "satellite tv for pc" or "digital tv for pc" in the title so I could knock off the others and agree they are a scam.

    Just still wondering if there is some blackhat tricks to de rank someone.

    This is the blackhat seo section :p.

    P.S. Oh yeah, I know it's a scam niche, but I would rather the buyers dont know that :p.
     
  7. RiTu

    RiTu Regular Member

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    Don't be a sucker and outrank them in a fair way.
     
  8. BigBlue

    BigBlue Regular Member

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    Ne1 know if it actually works to de-rank a stable first spot page? or is
    it just going to make him stronger.

    You can move onto white hat seo, but yea, he's not a competitor, so simplt outranking wouldn't help. He would still be doing dmg at #2.
     
  9. barcodeunit

    barcodeunit Junior Member

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    yeah i agree... don't be a fool. be a good sport and outrank him your own way
     
  10. Djingel

    Djingel Junior Member

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    contact the sites linking to them and say why the competitor sucks and should link to you instead.
     
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  11. yousefgreat

    yousefgreat Regular Member

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    This is quite unethical. Again, your competitor might be any member of this forum.