DC's Money Making Ideas - Part I

Here is part one in a series of numerous


Ok, here we go - Basically I called it the Middle Man Affiliate Network. You basically setup an affiliate network and promote programs from other affiliate networks for a lower payout. This can't be illegal, and it MUST make money because CPA Storm basically does it. There used to have the South Beach Diet on their site that paid $45 (Linkshare pays $55).

1) Sign up to as many affiliate programs as you can. I would try to stick with the big ones at first until you get things up and running.

2) Next compile a list of all the programs you think can convert along with pricing at each affiliate. Ex. Obama Zip Submit is $1 at CJ and $1.25 at NeverBlue

3) Start your own affiliate network. Get the same script they all use, buy a domain, get hosting, blah, blah, blah. You may need personnel working for you, but probably not until you start getting big.

4) Take that list of offers from #2 and add those programs to your affiliate with a lower payout.

5) Promote on all the shitty IM forums like DP and BHW. You basically want noobs because they will be too dumb to look at other Affiliate companies to see the higher payouts.

I may have missed a few steps, but you get the idea.


Bottom Line:
Does it make money? Yes
Is it Illegal? Probably not (I am not 100%)
Start Up Money? Yes - Domain, Hosting, Affiliate Script
Risk? Some - You need to monitor for illegal clicks and whatever else, but I would hope the affiliate script would do that

I would rate this probably a 7/10 only because it WILL make you money, but there are a few unknowns.

Part II (another method) coming in about a week.

Very interesting idea DC but I am guessing you are then forwarding them to your own affiliate links so you get credited for the leads but pay them the left over money.

So lets say the lead is $1.25 at neverblue and you put in on your affiliate network at around $0.80, you will be making around $0.45 per lead.

So you will need around 222 leads per day to make $100 a day but then you will have the problem with all the noobs as most will be too stupid to actually get leads anyway.

Most of them will see the only way to make money as signing up themselves etc.

This is a solid idea but I can see a few problems. Great share nonetheless and we need more of these in this forum.

When people post ideas like this, it sparks different ideas in everyone elses minds and then new stuff is born.

DAMN - just saw that Beret.

What is up with that comment DC? That must not be your method, did you copy it from somewhere man?

Can't believe Rambo let this comment get away without a remark:

5) Promote on all the shitty IM forums like DP and BHW.

Yeah that just clicked Blackberet. Guess I didnt expect him to say such a comment.

Thanks for the heads up and I hope DC can explain that comment...

BlackBeret said:

Can't believe Rambo let this comment get away without a remark:

5) Promote on all the shitty IM forums like DP and BHW.

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DC, did you mean "DP and WF"?

I think this method may have been copied from a different forum and then maybe he forgot to change BHW to WF.

Actually, I think that affiliate networks probably do a bit of this kind of arbitrage themselfes.

I'm not going to comment on the 'DP and BHW' remark - it's either a plaigarized post or a Freudian slip. Methinks it's the former.

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If I understand this right, lots of Affiliate networks already do this. Numerous times when I check landing pages for say an offer at one network I will see it it hop through another networks jump link before making it to the landing page. Basically they are brokering offers for other networks and offering the lower payout. This is especially prevalent on networks using Direct Track. Many new affiliate networks simply go out and buy Direct Track and start their business by brokering for other networks.

To the BHW remark:

No, I am only on this forum and DP (just to sell crap). No it was only posted here. And No, I did not copy it. It was a joke.

Although, there are enough noobs on here posting, "How do I make money?", you can sell it to them.

Thanks for clearing that up mate.

Rambo said:

Very interesting idea DC but I am guessing you are then forwarding them to your own affiliate links so you get credited for the leads but pay them the left over money.

So lets say the lead is $1.25 at neverblue and you put in on your affiliate network at around $0.80, you will be making around $0.45 per lead.

So you will need around 222 leads per day to make $100 a day but then you will have the problem with all the noobs as most will be too stupid to actually get leads anyway.

Most of them will see the only way to make money as signing up themselves etc.

This is a solid idea but I can see a few problems. Great share nonetheless and we need more of these in this forum.

When people post ideas like this, it sparks different ideas in everyone elses minds and then new stuff is born.

DAMN - just saw that Beret.

What is up with that comment DC? That must not be your method, did you copy it from somewhere man?

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I was a noob when I started at CPA Storm, and I pulled in $1K in a month and a half (before they dropped all my campaigns). I had about 22 sales, $10 a piece for them, $200+ in about 2 months. And I am like #8000 or so on their list.

Also, that is why I gave it a 7/10, because there is some risk.

c'mon this method is nothing new. it is over staurated specially for email /zip offer & available everywhere..I was hoping something else

safaristyle said:

c'mon this method is nothing new. it is over staurated specially for email /zip offer & available everywhere..I was hoping something else

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I dont think anybody said this was a brand-spanking new method?

Rambo said:

I dont think anybody said this was a brand-spanking new method?

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I always hope something special from Blackhat members because whatever BHW members share in this forum always works

safaristyle said:

I always hope something special from Blackhat members because whatever BHW members share in this forum always works

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Yes and this method will also work

two problems.

1) most affiliate TOS states that you cannot outsource your offers

2) are you willing to risk your account when one of your affiliates does some stupid shit and gets you banned?

chillyd

That is the risk that DC is reffering to.

safaristyle said:

c'mon this method is nothing new. it is over staurated specially for email /zip offer & available everywhere..I was hoping something else

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Yeah, blow me Mr. 25 Posts.

I ain't going to give you my bread and butter for Part I, I need to build up to something.

Food for thought though folks. If you were going to create the infrastructure to "outsource" offers from other networks, why wouldn't you simply take the time to establish the right relationships with advertisers?

I mean why would I want to make .45 for my affiliates leads, when I could be making $5+ by cutting out that middle network? Seriously, working arbitrage on arbitrage is only cutting into everyone's profit. If CPA storm pays me $2 on a zip submit, I'm pretty confident they're making quite a bit more than that. I'd rather be the guy getting that big payday in the middle. You don't get the big payday by being the guy in the middle in the middle.

In addition, if one of your bozo noob affiliates really screws up, your affiliate status at a big network can be twacked. However, if you are the big network, then you just drop the bozo, and keep the commission. That's what they all do.

All that said, this is a clever idea, and one that can probably make someone some bucks. For what it's worth though, if you're going to do the work this one will take - just start a real network.