Darker than BlackHat : What is this method?

For me, monetization would be fhe real challenge.

I believe this can be done im much better manners and for long term. I never wrote content, all my website are programmatic to produce content on their own.

But backlinks have always been the hustle patt. So, building tons of domains, to interlink each other so you don't need backlinks from outer resources is Brilliant..

@OP, from what you said, I believe the main source of their backlinks would be their other domains, right?

This is wonderful, I have to play with it. Now, why do they only use .fr domain and are all of them expired. This is a huge upfront cost.. can you get .fr domains for free or something! And are all of these domains expired?
 
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Sanctioned said:
I've seen so many of these weird websites in weird niches, they get knocked down by Google within a few months but make a bunch of money while they run.
Here is a cool example:

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What they do is, crawl a shit ton of KWs and copy Google SERPs into their web page. They get to million pages pretty quickly and lose steam as fast.
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This us a proper parabola.

Guys who run these kind of sites know very well they won't stand the test of time, so they would make the most out of it for that fee months.

In the case of the one on your screenshot it performed exceptionally great for a year, but before the one year performance. It was also doing great.
It was having somewhere around 500k traffic per month. Look at that graph very well. They probably ran the site for upto 2 years and banked hard.
 
HenryObi said:
This us a proper parabola.

Guys who run these kind of sites know very well they won't stand the test of time, so they would make the most out of it for that fee months.

In the case of the one on your screenshot it performed exceptionally great for a year, but before the one year performance. It was also doing great.
It was having somewhere around 500k traffic per month. Look at that graph very well. They probably ran the site for upto 2 years and banked hard.
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Yeah, and they know that, but that's where the churn and burn comes in. They always have something developing in the pipeline, usually in mass.
 
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1.2K domains and 159 IPs, so thats their own domains.. all internlinked with same JS, again it goes back to indexing, in last 24 hours 9500+ pages indexed :)..
 
Finally, I went back from a travel and had the chance to analyze it with different tools.

It was much easier than I first thought:-
1 - Buy expired domains at first. Then, you can buy new domains later
2 - Run a scraper, provide it with a list of thousands of keywords, it will search for them in google, scrape the meta description and mix them, then publish an article where each title is one of the keywords and article is a chunck of keywords of this list
3 - Which is the most important part, interlink between random articles in the website and from other domains using random generated letters as anchors
4 - Run the scrapers 24hr/day and 7 days a week.
5 - Add a cloaker which will redirect real users to cpa offers and google bot to articles. tbh, this is where they failed and we were able to discover them because of the cloaker poor job. Semrush shouldn't have found them nor any other crawler except google.

Now all you need for maintainance is new domains and new keyword lists.

Finally, the upfront costs of this isn't low, so they must have known from the beginning it will work. Also, how they executed it shows they knew exactly what they were doing in each single step. They knew exactly how the Algorithm works like they are the ones who written it themselves
 
I think they rank for new content 1-2 days, then out. Am I correct?
 
They have 1000's of sites like this. You can find them all easily.

Most of them don't rank for much. The big ones you're seeing are lottery winners. It's a numbers game. If you create 1000's you get a few dozen that rank *big* and a few 100 that rank decent 5k-50k.

They aren't google employees.. What nonsense some people come out with, really.

They don't have any secret method to index. They couldn't run 1 site and guarantee indexing.

The method they're using is actually VERY primitive. They're just throwing some money at domains and code.

But, there is a very specific reason this works, and none of you have even gotten close it and I doubt anyone will spot it, as you'd need a good understanding of a few of the google patents to spot why this works. :)
 
splishsplash said:
They have 1000's of sites like this. You can find them all easily.

Most of them don't rank for much. The big ones you're seeing are lottery winners. It's a numbers game. If you create 1000's you get a few dozen that rank *big* and a few 100 that rank decent 5k-50k.

They aren't google employees.. What nonsense some people come out with, really.

They don't have any secret method to index. They couldn't run 1 site and guarantee indexing.

The method they're using is actually VERY primitive. They're just throwing some money at domains and code.

But, there is a very specific reason this works, and none of you have even gotten close it and I doubt anyone will spot it, as you'd need a good understanding of a few of the google patents to spot why this works. :)
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Thanks for the hint.
 
splishsplash said:
They have 1000's of sites like this. You can find them all easily.

Most of them don't rank for much. The big ones you're seeing are lottery winners. It's a numbers game. If you create 1000's you get a few dozen that rank *big* and a few 100 that rank decent 5k-50k.

They aren't google employees.. What nonsense some people come out with, really.

They don't have any secret method to index. They couldn't run 1 site and guarantee indexing.

The method they're using is actually VERY primitive. They're just throwing some money at domains and code.

But, there is a very specific reason this works, and none of you have even gotten close it and I doubt anyone will spot it, as you'd need a good understanding of a few of the google patents to spot why this works. :)
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thanks for this useful msg mate...
 
KHer0 said:
@OP, from what you said, I believe the main source of their backlinks would be their other domains, right?
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More or less. But you 'll still need to scan all over their domains to be sure their backlink formation. As i can see, there specific reason why they are using local domains.

KHer0 said:
Finally, I went back from a travel and had the chance to analyze it with different tools.

It was much easier than I first thought:-
1 - Buy expired domains at first. Then, you can buy new domains later
2 - Run a scraper, provide it with a list of thousands of keywords, it will search for them in google, scrape the meta description and mix them, then publish an article where each title is one of the keywords and article is a chunck of keywords of this list
3 - Which is the most important part, interlink between random articles in the website and from other domains using random generated letters as anchors
4 - Run the scrapers 24hr/day and 7 days a week.
5 - Add a cloaker which will redirect real users to cpa offers and google bot to articles. tbh, this is where they failed and we were able to discover them because of the cloaker poor job. Semrush shouldn't have found them nor any other crawler except google.

Now all you need for maintainance is new domains and new keyword lists.

Finally, the upfront costs of this isn't low, so they must have known from the beginning it will work. Also, how they executed it shows they knew exactly what they were doing in each single step. They knew exactly how the Algorithm works like they are the ones who written it themselves
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They do have some strategy regarding the backlink formation. One of them is to check out their outbound link mate. Most of the sites which ranks, have a very low outbound links than the others.

Razorbl2 said:
I think they rank for new content 1-2 days, then out. Am I correct?
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Yes, but some of them rank for a week

splishsplash said:
They have 1000's of sites like this. You can find them all easily.

Most of them don't rank for much. The big ones you're seeing are lottery winners. It's a numbers game. If you create 1000's you get a few dozen that rank *big* and a few 100 that rank decent 5k-50k.

They aren't google employees.. What nonsense some people come out with, really.

They don't have any secret method to index. They couldn't run 1 site and guarantee indexing.

The method they're using is actually VERY primitive. They're just throwing some money at domains and code.

But, there is a very specific reason this works, and none of you have even gotten close it and I doubt anyone will spot it, as you'd need a good understanding of a few of the google patents to spot why this works. :)
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Which patent? I will prepare my lawyer to sue it

Thanks for the useful hint
 
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"and none of you have even gotten close it and I doubt anyone will spot it "

not true
 
Sanctioned said:
I've seen so many of these weird websites in weird niches, they get knocked down by Google within a few months but make a bunch of money while they run.
Here is a cool example:

View attachment 232745

What they do is, crawl a shit ton of KWs and copy Google SERPs into their web page. They get to million pages pretty quickly and lose steam as fast.
Click to expand...
a few months ...mate that's a year? of 3 mil (average visitors) rinse and repeat. The rate at which google works = Pension fund secured.
 
splishsplash said:
But, there is a very specific reason this works, and none of you have even gotten close it and I doubt anyone will spot it, as you'd need a good understanding of a few of the google patents to spot why this works. :)
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would you care to enlighten us?
 
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