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Custom SEO Tools

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by meatro, Dec 12, 2011.

  1. meatro

    meatro BANNED BANNED

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    I'm wondering if there's any type of demand for custom SEO tools.

    These tools would be made custom based on the client's needs and sold for a fair price. It would not be extravagant because it would also be available to other customers.

    So custom tools would be affordable to initially make and then would be kept in a library of tools that you could browse and purchase. Extra charges for an exclusive tool, you can purchase the source code, etc.

    I think this would be a pretty cool idea, it would be nice to have a blackhat website that people could browse for tools and people could break out of the more expensive tools if they didn't require all the same functionality. (For example, if you just want forum profiles, you don't need $600 XRumer. If you just want spinable Squidoo commenter, you don't need custom programming.)

    People could just browse the library of tools and, "hey, I need a Yahoo answers bot. $20... I also need a YellowPages scraper. $20. Then I need a Mediawiki bot, $20."

    Maybe we haven't built what you need yet. Custom bots would be cheap, too if they're marketable to other users.

    I dunno.. Just an idea I've been playing around with. I've found it very fun to make bots and I end up making a lot of them based on the methods of BHW posts, so a lot of them are unique in their functionality. Also, I can make them very quickly, taking an idea to a completed bot in a day or two unless it requires very thorough options/functions.
     
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  2. sixalarm

    sixalarm Regular Member

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    You know, I have been thinking about doing the same thing. From what I can tell, there is definitely a demand for these types of tools. Especially with google getting smarter about what all the major seo softwares can do, it seems like there is going to be a growing demand for tools that target specific niche tasks and sites. Just my 2 cents but it certainly seems plausible.
     
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    Sounds like a good idea, and you would basically be building a modular seo suite - so you just by the modules you need and you can add modules at any time for additional fee.?
     
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    sometimes i hire people to create my own scripts.

    By the way, if you need profiles, you can use scrape board also:)
     
  5. meatro

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    Hehe... I use XRumer. :p
     
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    meatro BANNED BANNED

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    Exactly for both of you. :)

    How long before Google totally shits all over SENuke X, AMR or any other tools that are used by, basically, the general public?

    The whole reason that I wanted to start making bots was to get away from those types of programs, and especially those 2 specifically. The problem that I faced was that those tools simply aren't available... If you do a search for SEO tools, chances are you're going to end up with:

    ScrapeBox
    XRumer
    SENuke X
    AMR

    Or some variation of similar tools... Some scraping, link building, 2.0/articles tools. Now this is all well and good, it's the basic foundations of SEO. First of all, there's no replacing ScrapeBox, so we'll just shut that conversation down right now.

    However, I see tools like SENuke X, XRumer, AMR, etc as being completely variable. And honestly, SENuke X is the one that got me thinking this way.. I was setting up one of my first campaigns and started thinking

    "How many others have the exact same SEO campaign as this?... Yeah, ok, you can move modules around and whatnot. Wowwy, how impressive. It's still boiling down to these 12 social networking sites, these 8 2.0 profiles and those 5 article directories."

    Like I said, how long before Google figures out "Ok, if they have tons of links coming from these sites, have them interconnected in these ways and the content reads like this... Poof, that's a SENuke campaign." Personally, I'm not a nailbiter like that, I'd rather not pull my hair out from stress anytime I hear "algo update" and start praying.

    I would also give a little bit of functionality from some of my other tools for BETTER links. Yeah, I said it. I would rather have better back links coming to my site than the knowledge that my tool has 497 options, all spinable.

    Just thought it would be a pretty cool idea. Kind of like the module mode of SENuke X, put together your potential campaign... "Want profiles from these sites pointing to this page which is linked to $$$." Then go through the toolbox and simply select what you need...

    Web 2.0 Profile Maker --> YouTube Videos --> $$$
    EDU/GOV Link Builder --> Squidoo Comments --> $$$
    Yahoo! Answers --> Website Blog --> $$$

    So you need a web 2.0 profile maker, easy. YouTube commenter. Done. Link builder, give me 3 days. Yahoo! Answers bot, no problem.

    Not only that, since there's so many of them and new ones all the time, with enough people chipping in on each project.. (If 10 people bought a simple tool, that would be worth it for me to make).. You get them for cheap, you get support with them, you get updates with them, new features, all that.
     
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    Haha Senuke got me thinking about this too. Yeah, it seems if you are going to want to survive in im/seo you gotta learn how to build links from sites that all the other spammers arent going after. Othewise, it just makes it waaaaaaaaay too easy for google to sniff out what is going on. I think you have a winning idea. Oh, and I would be interested in whatever tools you develop so I hope you decide to post them in BST whenever you decide to do this :)
     
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    I would be interested in custom tools... interesting idea... :)
     
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    This is awesome. So what kind of tools would you all be interested in to start off with?

    I've gathered from some other threads that a lot of people want YouTube tools. Specifically one capable of creating accounts, rating up/down, downloading videos by trend/keyword along with video info, uploading videos & spinning info.

    That I know I could do. I've also got a custom form trainer in the works that you can train to fill any form on any page.. Registration, content posting... Completely spinable all the way up to the usernames and with custom variables so you can assign any kind of content to a form field (it's not limited to name, bio, etc. You can assign your fish's eye color to a form field if you want.)

    Then it saves all the actions to a text file that can be used on those sites by anybody else with the tool without having to train it again.

    I've got some other toys that I've made recently, too. A Squidoo commenter with proxies, multiple account handling, previous comment parsing, spinable comments and more. I automated the +K method on Klout that was posted here on BHW.. Built a Twitter follower.....

    I'll look into all of this further, I already have the site designed and laid out for it. I'll look into some type of system to manage all of this... I think what would work best is something like a group buy scenario, where people suggest an idea for a tool and once X people agree to purchase, the tool is developed and placed in the shop.

    That way the tools are available to everybody, plus I stay motivated to make them because I'm not going off one guy's suggestion and basically doing the work for a few bucks, the tools are affordable and with enough platforms automated, it strays away from the traditional SEO tools and allows us to automate custom methods and strategies.
     
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    I think the youtube tools would be a big hit. Then we wouldnt have to worry so much about our accounts getting banned :). Question, what will you be using to create these tools? Do you hand code everything or will you be using something like Ubot? Would make it easier to make suggestions cause I know that Ubot can be limited when it comes to certain things
     
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    This sounds great! Please keep me up to date with your progress. What about a tool that finds high pr pages on large bookmarking sites and forums and then posts an internal link back to your own profile page on the same site. ie funneling internal PR to pages you control? It would probably need to be unique to each site, but I think it could have potential.
     
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    I do use UBot, however so far the only limitation that I've run across is that I cannot set dropdown values.... Meaning, I cannot scrape a page for a certain term, add those terms to the dropdown and allow the user to select one. Dropdown values must be hardcoded. Retarded.

    Other than that, not much has posed too big of a hurdle. Plus, it's always being developed further, so many of its current limitations more than likely will be worked out in time.
     
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    Haha.. Good idea. My Squidoo comment bot does just that.

    It searches Google for Squidoo "Top 100" category pages, scrapes the lenses from those pages and loads them into the commenter. I picked up almost 500 high PR comments before I got the boot. (I was seeing how strict their spam rules are.. Note, do not comment on Squidoo with lightly spun comments for a week solid on 5 accounts, 24/7 with no proxies.) :p

    Also, being limited is sort of my point for SEO. I'm paranoid as hell about penalties, so I do not use SENuke X. (I use XRumer, but that's apples and oranges.) I do not like mass account signups across 50 sites spinning an article. I would rather focus on one site or even one platform. That's what would be nice about the whole thing, IMO.

    Instead of getting SUPER DELUXE LINK CONQUEST PRO ELITE PLATINUM V5 for $500 or $150/mo or whatever else. You get a YouTube account handler for $20-30. It's not flashy, it doesn't make pancakes. It's a tool (my hammer isn't pretty). It does a task, in the case of recent suggestions.. It creates accounts, downloads videos, spins content, uploads videos, rates videos, etc. That's a bitchin deal for $30.

    But seriously, selling it for $20-30 and hoping 20 people buy it would more than cover the time to make it.
     
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    The squidoo spam team must be patting them selves on the back. . . . .

    That sounds really cool. I have been doing a bit manually on Folkd. Using scrapebox to find the high pr pages then getting links back to my profiles. Its been working pretty well, but I just don't get the time to keep it up on multiple accounts.

    If you could crack custom bots that work for a few sites I think it would be a great way to generate "white hat" page rank and move it around to money sites and "grey hat" sites.