CTR Manipulation - Underrated search engine ranking tactic?

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I've been testing CTR manipulation for a long time now.
I've tried to make sure there's nothing else is manipulating the site rankings (such as backlink building).

Here's an interesting test I just ran. The website owner wanted to rank for the "cartoonpornclips" but wasn't ranking.

So, we tried just searching their website as a keyword once per day.
We also searched their website with the keyword we wanted to have them start ranking for once per day (to tell Google they're related).

Meanwhile, we also continued to search the naked keyword each day to see if it would appear.

The results? In a very short time, we did, in fact, manipulate Google into ranking the website for the keyword.

Take a look at the video, and let me know your thoughts!

https://www.loom.com/share/fe861dc0ed21406f8dfee98f7731f392

There are many naysayers regarding CTR manipulation, but I think it has a much stronger effect than most people realize.

What's your experience?
 
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I've used such services in the past (years ago now) and for me they provided a positive effect - definitely a noticeable rankings shift. However, to get any sort of movement required a pretty hefty investment, and the ROI just wasn't there in my case.
 
N3WY0RK said:
I've been testing CTR manipulation for a long time now.
I've tried to make sure there's nothing else is manipulating the site rankings (such as backlink building).

Here's an interesting test I just ran. The website owner wanted to rank for the "cartoonpornclips" but wasn't ranking.

So, we tried just searching their website as a keyword once per day.
We also searched their website with the keyword we wanted to have them start ranking for once per day (to tell Google they're related).

Meanwhile, we also continued to search the naked keyword each day to see if it would appear.

The results? In a very short time, we did, in fact, manipulate Google into ranking the website for the keyword.

Take a look at the video, and let me know your thoughts!

https://www.loom.com/share/fe861dc0ed21406f8dfee98f7731f392

There are many naysayers regarding CTR manipulation, but I think it has a much stronger effect than most people realize.

What's your experience?
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This is interesting, do you think this has the ability to push a site to the top and still keep it there?
 
It doesn't make any sense to me.

You say: "In the beginning it was never found" and then "it started to be found"

If it was never found, how the CTR could work? Without being in the SERPs you cannot be clicked; hence you cannot improve the CTR.

I posted two months about this and all I have to say, is that CTR is nothing new, not underrated, in fact, it's too overrated from my perspective. And more overrated when using those CTR farms that probably have an IP score of -1000 or clicks come from Asia countries with dubious quality proxies.

Furthermore, I have been very skeptical about CTR use for keywords under certain position because it doesn't make any sense. Why a couple of clicks on the positions 74, 87 and 98 could make sense rank wise? I'm not 100% certain of this yet, but it's counterintuitive. Although it could work, I need to do further testing because I feel it was patched some time ago, but as many other things, for some reason, things get unpatched overtime and this is what makes SEO so crazy, one guy claiming it doesn't work and the other praising it does.
 
Issue I'm having with CTR increasing services is that it's extremely hard to proof how big part the service you have used to increase the CTR has in the event of ranking improvements.

Also, if you then stop using such CTR service, are you going to lose the rankings?
 
I have logged into two websites in this case and used click-through rates to improve rankings. From October last year to now, the website has no traffic at all. I don't think this is a good idea. If you use a low-quality IP to click, you will be punished. If you use a high-quality IP to click, the price/performance ratio is too low.
 
420lounge said:
I think it is a short time success , it might lead to penalties from Google
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I haven't found this to be true, because if I did I would use it against competitors. It would be a goldmine.

SirLouen said:
It doesn't make any sense to me.

You say: "In the beginning it was never found" and then "it started to be found"

If it was never found, how the CTR could work? Without being in the SERPs you cannot be clicked; hence you cannot improve the CTR.

I posted two months about this and all I have to say, is that CTR is nothing new, not underrated, in fact, it's too overrated from my perspective. And more overrated when using those CTR farms that probably have an IP score of -1000 or clicks come from Asia countries with dubious quality proxies.

Furthermore, I have been very skeptical about CTR use for keywords under certain position because it doesn't make any sense. Why a couple of clicks on the positions 74, 87 and 98 could make sense rank wise? I'm not 100% certain of this yet, but it's counterintuitive. Although it could work, I need to do further testing because I feel it was patched some time ago, but as many other things, for some reason, things get unpatched overtime and this is what makes SEO so crazy, one guy claiming it doesn't work and the other praising it does.
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Look at the loom video. They weren't found at all for the keyword they were trying to be ranked for. So, we searched their website as the keyword (website.com) and their website with the keyword they wanted to rank for (website.com + keyword) which it was found for. I think this is a signal for Google to see that people attribute this keyword with this website.

After doing that for a week or two, they we're then found for the exact keyword (without the website) which they were never appearing for before.
domainmadness said:
Issue I'm having with CTR increasing services is that it's extremely hard to proof how big part the service you have used to increase the CTR has in the event of ranking improvements.

Also, if you then stop using such CTR service, are you going to lose the rankings?
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This is why I run tests on sites that have sat stale / aren't doing anything else to manipulate their rankings.
 
N3WY0RK said:
Look at the loom video. They weren't found at all for the keyword they were trying to be ranked for. So, we searched their website as the keyword (website.com) and their website with the keyword they wanted to rank for (website.com + keyword) which it was found for. I think this is a signal for Google to see that people attribute this keyword with this website.
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Ok, now that makes better sense

That has also been a very popular technique also, but personally as @Steptoe suggested it requires massive costs specially at certain point when you have to keep adding more and more CTR (and by default is not cheap). I was trying to design a method like the one that @sscaz was using to lower costs a little bit (and improve the quality of clicks also), but so far it has been very faulty for me on my tests.
 
SirLouen said:
Ok, now that makes better sense

That has also been a very popular technique also, but personally as @Steptoe suggested it requires massive costs specially at certain point when you have to keep adding more and more CTR (and by default is not cheap). I was trying to design a method like the one that @sscaz was using to lower costs a little bit (and improve the quality of clicks also), but so far it has been very faulty for me on my tests.
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I've been following a process like this for my local seo clients:

- Start searching their website or brand name (website.com) as a keyword 1 time per day.
- Start searching their website or brand name + main keyword 1 time per day
- Start searching main keyword 1 time per day

Total is 3 search per day.

If they have another core keyword they want to rank, I start searching brand + that keyword, then again, search the main keyword. (2 more daily searches)

It's not expensive at all following this. In most cases there's only a few keywords max that are their biggest buyer intent keywords (moving company [city], landingscaping company [city]) and they're super happy when I'm able to start boosting their map pack rankings which in many cases they can't seem to budge anymore from traditional methods.
 
N3WY0RK said:
I've been following a process like this for my local seo clients:

- Start searching their website or brand name (website.com) as a keyword 1 time per day.
- Start searching their website or brand name + main keyword 1 time per day
- Start searching main keyword 1 time per day

Total is 3 search per day.

If they have another core keyword they want to rank, I start searching brand + that keyword, then again, search the main keyword. (2 more daily searches)

It's not expensive at all following this. In most cases there's only a few keywords max that are their biggest buyer intent keywords (moving company [city], landingscaping company [city]) and they're super happy when I'm able to start boosting their map pack rankings which in many cases they can't seem to budge anymore from traditional methods.
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Local is certainly different. The keywords I was targeting (automotive based) were taking thousands of clicks to shift. It was not a sustainable model for me.
 
We have moved the website from position 46 to 16 with 15 days (10 clicks a day) of CTR manipulation (German SMM niche). Shortly after the client stopped the service it s now returning to where it was.

The thing is it does work in the long run (when consistent clicks are being sent). I ve discovered this phenomena years ago when users inputted the website url which was shown in YouTube video to Google search and visited web. And this consistent traffic moved hlthr page to top 3 after 2-3 months of 3-4 clicks per day.
The problem is that many people want results in short time. But while in some niches it is indeed possible , but niches differ (for some it may require months)
 
My CTR manipulation tactics: Search with the keyword then go to a page.
Then again search with the keyword + my site brand name.
Example: How to do blogging [my website domain name]
It just really works great.
 
SeoIsArt said:
We have moved the website from position 46 to 16 with 15 days (10 clicks a day) of CTR manipulation (German SMM niche). Shortly after the client stopped the service it s now returning to where it was.

The thing is it does work in the long run (when consistent clicks are being sent). I ve discovered this phenomena years ago when users inputted the website url which was shown in YouTube video to Google search and visited web. And this consistent traffic moved hlthr page to top 3 after 2-3 months of 3-4 clicks per day.
The problem is that many people want results in short time. But while in some niches it is indeed possible , but niches differ (for some it may require months)
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I did this months ago, I bought visits and i Sent those ones to a link from google that have my keyword, i put a key in a page 2, with a New website
 
I never saw results with "Keyword + Brand". But Sending traffic from a backlink helped rank for certain very hard keywords on google. Couldn't push them with CTR afterwards!
 
Isn't this too risky for your money site? Does this affect general SERP or also local "places" links?
 
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