Credit system vs. JumpStart-ish

Brainstorming · Dec 31, 2011

Em][n3m;3657915 said:
lol?? 2$ / 1000 views?

Como'n did you ever checked playinator Fast views??

http://www.playinator.com/special/

for 100$ your video get 5000 views during 30 days , thats 150 000 views for 100$

How much money you have to give SpK for 150 000 views if 2$ = 1000 views ?? 300$

Do you realize how many times and how long Playinator was obsolete and didn't send any views at all? Yet you continuously back a service which has failed multiple times? I'd love to see how long they last this time, if they are even working like you claim. I'm beginning to think that you're in some way affiliated with their service/website.

EmpireQuality · Dec 31, 2011

Brainstorming said:
Do you realize how many times and how long Playinator was obsolete and didn't send any views at all? Yet you continuously back a service which has failed multiple times? I'd love to see how long they last this time, if they are even working like you claim. I'm beginning to think that you're in some way affiliated with their service/website.

he probably is associated with playinator

but i cant prove so who knows...

izSpK · Jan 1, 2012

EmpireQuality said:
he probably is associated with playinator

but i cant prove so who knows...

He is associated with it (as well as his second account beaglejuice he uses a proxy to access). Look how mad he got in that other thread. I don't like bashing others product, but feel free to try that thing out yourself guys and see how fast you'll be searching for an alternative.

izSpK · Jan 1, 2012

beaglejuice said:
Obviously, you found a way to bypass BHW's BST rules. You're pre selling and I question your motives because you abandoned your last 2 projects. Specifically, youtoobme that came with a lifetime update.

So much idiocy in one post, but oh well I'll explain it to you:
I am in no way preselling as I haven't even made the product to showcase yet. And look up lifetime in the dictionary "The period of time during which property, an object, a process, or a phenomenon exists or functions". I stopped updating it, so that's the lifetime period.

The most important thing is you're comparing a automated tool, to a credit based view system. If I ever were to stop it, no one can complain because the views have been purchased and delivered. And if the user have credits left he can easily receive a refund for the amount of credits. Me and the coowner of YTNuke have been running that site for a long time and not a single time have I heard a complaint.

Hope I was clear. Writing this from my phone..

EmpireQuality · Jan 1, 2012

izSpK said:
He is associated with it (as well as his second account beaglejuice he uses a proxy to access). Look how mad he got in that other thread. I don't like bashing others product, but feel free to try that thing out yourself guys and see how fast you'll be searching for an alternative.

hehe thank you for the validation my friend

yea, he got very mad in the other thread but now i know why

i also dont like to bash other peoples hustle, but i dont appreciate the bad support back in the day so now i dont respect

and anyone who has to "hide" their id to sell their product is pretty foolish! i dont like dealing with tricksters...

beaglejuice · Jan 1, 2012

No idiocy at all. So much pretentiousness from you quoting from a dictionary. I bought your youtoobme in March of 2011 then in June of 2011 you said that you will discontinue with the lifetime updates. I questioned you regarding that in your forum and you replied that lifetime can mean 5 days or several months yet you continued selling your defunct software prior to updating to tubenoia.

Have you seen tweetattacks, scrapebox, etc. continuously updating their software because they promise lifetime updates?

And yes, it's too obvious that you're pre selling and trying to circumvent the bst system. Who are you kidding?

You are here to take advantage of bhw members.

izSpK said:
So much idiocy in one post, but oh well I'll explain it to you:
I am in no way preselling as I haven't even made the product to showcase yet. And look up lifetime in the dictionary "The period of time during which property, an object, a process, or a phenomenon exists or functions". I stopped updating it, so that's the lifetime period.

The most important thing is you're comparing a automated tool, to a credit based view system. If I ever were to stop it, no one can complain because the views have been purchased and delivered. And if the user have credits left he can easily receive a refund for the amount of credits. Me and the coowner of YTNuke have been running that site for a long time and not a single time have I heard a complaint.

Hope I was clear. Writing this from my phone..

izSpK · Jan 1, 2012

@beaglejuice If you felt that it wasn't right, why not tell me the dates you bought it on and ask for a refund? Many did, and receive their refunds.

Ignore the retarded posts guys

A quick update for those who PM me about the progress:
Finished the panel for the site. Now to start working on the registration system, purchase system, packages, etc.

beaglejuice · Jan 1, 2012

Believe me izpsk, it's not a retarded post. I question your integrity and motive since you keep abandoning your other projects. It's not about a refund from the YouToob Premium - $74.95 I paid you.

You're still pre selling dude outside of bst and I quote "Finished the panel for the site. Now to start working on the registration system, purchase system, packages, etc."

izSpK · Jan 1, 2012

beaglejuice said:
Believe me izpsk, it's not a retarded post. I question your integrity and motive since you keep abandoning your other projects. Not the YouToob Premium - $74.95 I paid you.

You're still pre selling dude outside of bst and I quote "Finished the panel for the site. Now to start working on the registration system, purchase system, packages, etc."

Nope, I am giving free views to everyone that posted in this thread with opinions and I am telling the public the process, no preselling.

Also people do grow up. I admit I might have done some stupid decisions in my life, but you got to see the progress. The YouToob was good for a good 5 months, but then things happened in my life and I had to end it instead of let the customers wait months for me to come back and fix it. That was really stupid, but I admit it. Tubenoia was a even better bot, but the same thing happened there, as I was stupid to put that price tag on it, and I wasn't making anything out of it.

As you can see there is a progression in my work, and every time I release something, it is better than my previous work. YTNuke which is a partner project between me and a team has been REALLY good, and I can only hope for better things with ViewTornado.

And as I said in my previous post, and you should really re-read it, a bot is VERY different from a view system like this. You pay for views, you get the views, or you get a refund. There is nothing on your PC you always need a update for and operate yourself. You pay us, we do the job or refund. Two very different things which can't be compared. You can compare ViewTornado to YTNuke if you wish as they are under the same category, but not a bot. And go ahead, compare YTNuke to ANY other service out there, rather than comparing my bot to ScrapeBox, etc. Do it

--sKy-- · Jan 1, 2012

beaglejuice said:
Believe me izpsk, it's not a retarded post. I question your integrity and motive since you keep abandoning your other projects. It's not about a refund from the YouToob Premium - $74.95 I paid you.

You're still pre selling dude outside of bst and I quote "Finished the panel for the site. Now to start working on the registration system, purchase system, packages, etc."

He is just asking for opinions and people know about tornado before this thread

beaglejuice · Jan 1, 2012

Things happen in my life too but I would never abandon anyone that I have a responsibility to answer to for as long as I'm capable physically of abiding to. I emailed you several times for an update to tubenoia receiving no response at all. That in fact I concede to your childish reasoning regarding "lifetime updates" of youtoobme.

The question is still your integrity and motives that I see ill in every instance.

You keep mentioning refund then so be it. But if I see legitimately wrong then it doesn't matter who is it I mention.

izSpK said:
Nope, I am giving free views to everyone that posted in this thread with opinions and I am telling the public the process, no preselling.

Also people do grow up. I admit I might have done some stupid decisions in my life, but you got to see the progress. The YouToob was good for a good 5 months, but then things happened in my life and I had to end it instead of let the customers wait months for me to come back and fix it. That was really stupid, but I admit it. Tubenoia was a even better bot, but the same thing happened there, as I was stupid to put that price tag on it, and I wasn't making anything out of it.

As you can see there is a progression in my work, and every time I release something, it is better than my previous work. YTNuke which is a partner project between me and a team has been REALLY good, and I can only hope for better things with ViewTornado.

And as I said in my previous post, and you should really re-read it, a bot is VERY different from a view system like this. You pay for views, you get the views, or you get a refund. There is nothing on your PC you always need a update for and operate yourself. You pay us, we do the job or refund. Two very different things which can't be compared. You can compare ViewTornado to YTNuke if you wish as they are under the same category, but not a bot. And go ahead, compare YTNuke to ANY other service out there, rather than comparing my bot to ScrapeBox, etc. Do it

beaglejuice · Jan 1, 2012

Send the refund to this thread without mentioning me or anyone else. We are done.

Code:

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/blackhat-lounge/389325-bhw-please-help-me-my-charity.html

izSpK · Jan 1, 2012

beaglejuice said:
Send the refund to this thread without mentioning me or anyone else. We are done.

Code:

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/blackhat-lounge/389325-bhw-please-help-me-my-charity.html

Already helping Alvin a lot with his charity, and donating.

Dubtube · Jan 1, 2012

Thank you guys for being so involved with my charity. At this point, I am waiting for my thread to be reinstated. If you are still wishing to donate those proceeds to the charity, the link for our charity is https://www.justgive.org/registries/wishlist/donate/makesomedifferences

God Bless you.

beaglejuice · Jan 1, 2012

As I said, send my refund to that thread and we are done. Here's my Unique Transaction ID #01M6395758557160X

No excuses, proof or you're bluffing as always. Once done, I'm done with you. No more bothering nor posting to your thread from me. I'll let the mods decide of any future violations.

izSpK said:
Already helping Alvin a lot with his charity, and donating.

Dubtube · Jan 1, 2012

He has donated $75 to the charity as per your request, I can verify that. I really appreciate your donation to my brain cancer foundation, it means a lot to me.

beaglejuice · Jan 1, 2012

No need to verify. I wish everyone in your charity afflicted with the disease well. My prayers to all for good health.

Dubtube said:
He has donated $75 to the charity as per your request, I can verify that. I really appreciate your donation to my brain cancer foundation, it means a lot to me.

izSpK · Jan 1, 2012

beaglejuice said:
No need to verify. I wish everyone in your charity afflicted with the disease well. My prayers to all for good health.

And there we go, just got the video featured on the YouTube homepage. That is way more valuable than $75 so yeah.

Bi0hazard · Jan 1, 2012

Right, now that that's out of the way, can we stay more on-topic

as in talk about ViewTornado only? ;P

I did ask in a earlier post, but got no reply. Will the method your using for the views count towards adsense izSpK?

izSpK · Jan 1, 2012

Bi0hazard said:
Right, now that that's out of the way, can we stay more on-topic as in talk about ViewTornado only? ;P

I did ask in a earlier post, but got no reply. Will the method your using for the views count towards adsense izSpK?

Must have overlooked it

And no, this will not count towards AdSense, because then I would be comitting fraud, but you can use the views to rank for a keyword which will get you real views, and that will count towards AdSense.

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