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Creating Diamonds from Human Ashes - Thoughts?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by ronywilliam, Aug 5, 2011.

  1. ronywilliam

    ronywilliam Senior Member

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    I just found out something like this can be done.

    Link to a very old news article about this:
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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2209799.stm
    Lifegem seems to be the biggest player in this.

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    http://www.lifegem.com/
    I believe its an excellent idea. (Commercially) ... No idea why this has not taken off yet.

    comments?
     
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  2. angelas111

    angelas111 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    i have heard of people doing this for pets a lot. i guess its better then having someone sit in an urn.
     
  3. ronywilliam

    ronywilliam Senior Member

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    Yeah. But why is this not being sold properly? With a proper sales letter i think one can sell this so easily! Imagine the kinda stuff a copy writer can write in a sales letter for this + the kinda margin you can offer to affiliates per sale! 20-30% affiliate commissions on a $3k product can be huge!

    Targeting: Widowers on FB or something like that...!
     
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    we can do the same thing for people with internet marketing - take someone who is dead from failure - and turn them into a diamond.

    :)
     
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    i dunno i think a diamond of my dead relatives or pets would be a tad bit creepy... that or maybe i just hate all my relatives... but yeah i think this has alot of potential for sales to old folks or spouses who have strong binds to loved ones.
     
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  6. ronywilliam

    ronywilliam Senior Member

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    Exactly! If somebody has a source to get these drop-shipped etc :p... I'm sure I can get a killer sales copy etc done :p
     
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    Another method to get sentimental people to part with their money.
    A Diamond is just another form of carbon which everything in this world
    is made of.
    Ashes? Diamond? Same thing different form.
    No monetary value as it's artificial.
    Remember the Russians with cubic zirconium thought they could break the market.
    I'd rather turn my loved ones into a door stop they'll have more use.
     
  8. ronywilliam

    ronywilliam Senior Member

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    The idea was selling them and not buying them :) ... If people can spend $10-20k on a grave why not $3k on converting there loved ones into a diamond they can wear! :) ... Wayyy cheaper and looks great too!
     
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    In my opinion is a very delicate matter. WHY? The answer to this very question is the key to the truth behind this thing.

    WHY? - Technology versus Religion (plus the strong ties between the persons involved)

    There are a few matters that you need to attend to before launching into this venture.

    CHURCH will definitely be against, while Steve Jobs will tell you that your Design NEEDS TO BE PERFECT!

    It has potential nevertheless.
     
  10. ronywilliam

    ronywilliam Senior Member

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    Good point. I'm an atheist so never really thought about that angle. :)
     
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    Roparadise BANNED BANNED

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    At one point people did believe the cubic zirconium's were real diamonds. The old guy on Pawn Stars lost his ass off back when they first came out,since no one really knew what they were.

    I personally want to go to jewelry stores and try to see if I could make money selling these to them. Supposedly not even certified gemologists could tell they were fake diamonds.
    http://betterthandiamond.com
     
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    Kickflip BANNED BANNED

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    Toss the ashes in the bin and send them a sparkly gem from a pawn shop and claim the persons ashes must have been really special since they turned into a rare Amethyst. Who are they to claim otherwise? Tell them only 1/100,000 peoples ashes turn into Amethyst instead of Diamond and it means the person is in Heaven thinking of their loved ones.
     
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    This is really creepy and gross lol.
     
  14. ronywilliam

    ronywilliam Senior Member

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    jesus... :p ... BTW cant u get sued for doing this? lol
     
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    Personally I would rather have my ashes put in a douche bag so I run through one one last time. :) But yes this does have potential. I read on the local news today that a company here in Alabama is making bullets from ashes. They have only sold three orders so far, but I can see some of the rednecks here going for this.
     
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    Kickflip BANNED BANNED

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    That movie pretty much writes itself. A young GORGEOUS Alabama redneck girl sees her 'Pa get killed protecting his family from a corrupt government assassin after he wouldn't shut down the trailer park he runs. The girl has her father cremated, and his ashes formed into bullets. Government officials involved start to drop dead from a sniper. The bullets are traced back to the original maker, who tells them he made 15 bullets and already 13 are dead.

    Who's next?
     
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    Hard carbon bullets would devastate the rifling in a rifle barrel. There's a reason bullets are made of soft metals like copper and lead. Unless its a copper jacket with a carbon core, that would work I suppose. I wonder what the ballistics on something like that would be.
     
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    OMG I just read that article. Japan has a 98% cremation rate? That is fucking sick. As far as the idea, there are some lines I won't cross. And this is definitely one of them.
     
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    japan has a 98% cremation rate cause lands to expensive for all but the most wealthy or honored to be buried the rest all just get burnt

    that idea of toss it and get them a $5 cz from the pawnshop is pure bh brilliant ... probably get you into a mess of legal trouble though ...

    i think the market for sadness/guilt/love memorabilia is a huge market .. defiantly one the scammer/shark/heartless love to swim in its easy to catch suckers when thiers emotion involved .... more money is spent on emotion than reason or logic...
     
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    Space is a premium in Japan. Even a cheap ugly spot will run about $5,000 in Japan. Most families who opt for a full grave and funeral service could be looking at $50,000 all in for the entire service/grave etc.