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Cracking rank in "golden" keywords...

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by ThopHayt, May 1, 2015.

  1. ThopHayt

    ThopHayt Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I've been pretty successful at ranking over the past year. In two particularity tough niches I have finally got traction, however I'm noticing that on truly high competition terms the rules of engagement seem to change once you flirt with the top two pages. These are terms that drive TONS of traffic, and have million+ results. I'm not so worried about the top half of page one because its rules by the usual Google Monopoly of cronies: Best Buy, Amazon, Walmart, Target, CostCo, and such... but these terms are so valuable that even being on page two drives insane amounts of traffic. I know this because I briefly broke into the second page and it was amazing... while it lasted for a few weeks.

    What I've noted, however, is that the sheer amount of link authority needed to push up even a single spot is insane at that level. And the constant velocity is bank-breaking. One issue I was running into was that every competitor above me pulls significantly more traffic per day. This is a huge problem in that A) Google loves sites with HIGH traffic, and B) that traffic earns these sites natural links at a faster clip than mine. I tried to overcome this with fake traffic (not the typical cheap bot crap, but high end traffic exchange) and it actually hurt me. So I've since been trying to focus on getting higher authority links, however due to a non-infinite budget that means that I must slow my overall link velocity. This is in its early stages, so the jury is still out... but so far it has not restored me to my brief glory. If anybody here has experienced a similar journey I'd love to hear your thoughts. I've noticed that the game is a LOT different than ranking for even your normal "high" competition terms. Maybe this is a fool's errand, but after getting a taste I am determined to make it!
     
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    Usually for really high traffic keywords you actually need a legit site ie not some crap affiliate site propped up on a PBN.

    Getting there isn't nearly as tough as staying there, as you'll either be met with manual reviews or your competitors reporting you.

    Unless you have a legit site, I would expect any premium rankings to be relatively short lived no matter what you do.
     
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    Interested in what members have to say.
     
  4. jelly91

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    my advice is just buy service in bhw until you get that, if u have tight budget u might want to try to work in mcd first.. XD
     
  5. sailingboy

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    I think you know this is going to be very expensive, and quite likely a failure. Depends how much money you are happy to burn to chase it.
     
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    say what lol ?
     
  7. ThopHayt

    ThopHayt Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Yeah its a legit site alright, the site was a $7,000 custom build. So no way thats a limiting factor, and I'd imagine its probably the only reason it was even capable of peeking at page two of such a keyword. Nonetheless, page two was indeed short lived. Its almost as if anchors (not exact, but anything with the small term even in it) had a link limit. Google was willing to give me full credit for X number of links which boosted the term. Then because the all the next links to come weren't HIGHER QUALITY than the previous quota, even if it replaced them it wouldn't raise rank.

    Its like Google says ok, for anything exact, longtail, or LSI for the term "toothbrush" I'll give the juice from your top 100 links. Things go fast and great until I fill that number up. Then because links 100-200 are the exact same quality as 1-100 were I see no gains. Like I'm just swapping out credit for my top 100 most powerful links. Like each layer of links needs to be BETTER than the last, otherwise its essentially ignored.

    This crazy thinking?