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CPAENGINE scammed me out of $500

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by TheRealRazzy, Jun 12, 2014.

  1. TheRealRazzy

    TheRealRazzy Supreme Member

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    Well, I was scammed by CPAENGINE

    I decided to give the new guy a chance... I shouldn't have.

    I posted a thread looking to hire an app developer.

    I should have seen a red flag when CPAENGINE didn't post in the thread but instead just sent me a PM.

    He sent me a portfolio to look over to which now I know was faked.

    He agreed to do my app for $500 in 5 days. Now I knew it would take longer than 5 days but I assumed he was just saying that so he could look better than the other developers who were saying it would take at least 3 weeks.

    Fast forward to today and I have $500 less in my account and no mobile app for my customers.

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    ***Note*** on [4/9/2014 8:39:56 PM] I edited his skype name so it would show his BHW username and why I added him. Early on it shows "R. R." as his username and then I changed it to "CPAENGINE (app developer)" so I knew exactly who he was and what he did.

    [4/1/2014 10:39:03 PM] TheRealRazzy: Hi R. R., I'd like to add you as a contact.  This is TheRealRazzy from BHW
    [4/1/2014 10:45:18 PM] *** R. R. has shared contact details with TheRealRazzy. ***
    [4/1/2014 10:45:21 PM] R. R.: Hi there
    [4/1/2014 10:45:51 PM] TheRealRazzy: Hey man.
    [4/1/2014 10:46:14 PM] TheRealRazzy: So I need an app for apple and android.
    [4/1/2014 10:46:25 PM] TheRealRazzy: Here's my competitor: 
    (Link Removed)
    [4/1/2014 10:46:36 PM] TheRealRazzy: I would pretty much need a clone of that but with more features that I want.
    [4/1/2014 10:46:54 PM] R. R.: Let me take a look
    [4/1/2014 10:48:08 PM] R. R.: Alright can do it
    [4/1/2014 10:48:14 PM] R. R.: Please take a look at some of my work
    [4/1/2014 10:48:16 PM] R. R.: 
    (Links Removed)
    [4/1/2014 10:48:34 PM] TheRealRazzy: alright.
    [4/1/2014 10:48:41 PM] R. R.: clumsy bird is the app i made myself
    [4/1/2014 10:48:53 PM] *** R. R. sent Portfolio.doc ***
    [4/1/2014 10:48:59 PM] TheRealRazzy: How much do you think the app I want would cost?
    [4/1/2014 10:49:33 PM] R. R.: additional features or something else you want to add?
    [4/1/2014 10:49:38 PM] R. R.: you want theexact same app?
    [4/1/2014 10:50:37 PM] TheRealRazzy: I want an app almost similar to that at the start, but I want additional features added in.  I don't like how they have users pick the days.  I'd prefer a calendar there and users would just pick the day off of it.
    [4/1/2014 10:50:47 PM] TheRealRazzy: I have more features but I have to write them down lol.
    [4/1/2014 10:51:15 PM] R. R.: in order for me to give you the exact quote i need to know the additional features sir
    [4/1/2014 10:51:24 PM] TheRealRazzy: So to start.  How much would it cost to have an app like that with the calendar instead of the date function they have on theirs.
    [4/1/2014 10:52:13 PM] R. R.: 460$ sir
    [4/1/2014 10:52:17 PM] TheRealRazzy: alright.
    [4/1/2014 10:53:38 PM] TheRealRazzy: Estimated time frame?
    [4/1/2014 10:54:29 PM] R. R. (App Developer): 4-5 days
    [4/1/2014 10:54:52 PM] TheRealRazzy: Ok.  I'll get back to you when I've talked to a couple other people.  I'm just waiting on their responses.
    [4/1/2014 10:55:31 PM] R. R. (App Developer): sounds good Man, we can work price out as well.
    [4/1/2014 10:55:40 PM] TheRealRazzy: Alright :)
    [4/1/2014 11:18:43 PM] TheRealRazzy: Is it possible to put ads on the app?
    [4/1/2014 11:18:59 PM] TheRealRazzy: I want to offer it for free but make money from advertisers lol.
    [4/1/2014 11:19:11 PM] R. R. (App Developer): Of course
    [4/1/2014 11:19:28 PM] TheRealRazzy: Is it easy for me to add new advertisers into rotation?
    [4/1/2014 11:22:34 PM] R. R. (App Developer): Yes
    [4/1/2014 11:24:32 PM] TheRealRazzy: A few features I know we want are these.
    (Features removed so I don't have people copy my app)
    - Feature 1
    - Feature 2 
    - Feature 3
    [4/1/2014 11:26:21 PM] TheRealRazzy: Feautre 4
    [4/1/2014 11:27:31 PM] R. R. (App Developer): alright 500$ for this APP sir
    [4/1/2014 11:28:29 PM] TheRealRazzy: Feature 5
    [4/1/2014 11:29:16 PM] R. R. (App Developer): alright i get your idea.
    [4/1/2014 11:29:22 PM] TheRealRazzy: Sweet :)
    [4/1/2014 11:29:37 PM] TheRealRazzy: By the way, the competitor app looks like it was made in 1990 lol :D
    [4/1/2014 11:29:59 PM] TheRealRazzy: I'd like my app to be nice to look at lol
    [4/1/2014 11:30:20 PM] R. R. (App Developer): UI will be HQ for sure the graphics and layout
    [4/1/2014 11:30:45 PM] TheRealRazzy: Awesome :D
    [4/1/2014 11:32:13 PM] R. R. (App Developer): alrighty when do you wanna get started sir
    [4/1/2014 11:38:16 PM] TheRealRazzy: I have to talk with my partner and then we can start I guess.
    [4/1/2014 11:38:25 PM] TheRealRazzy: I'll talk to him in the morning and then get back to you.
    [4/1/2014 11:38:38 PM] TheRealRazzy: It will be $500 for the app, correct?
    [4/1/2014 11:39:27 PM] R. R. (App Developer): Correct
    [4/1/2014 11:39:35 PM] TheRealRazzy: alright, sounds good :)
    [4/1/2014 11:39:41 PM] R. R. (App Developer): 6 months of updates and maintenance included.
    [4/1/2014 11:39:48 PM] TheRealRazzy: oh nice :D
    [4/1/2014 11:39:53 PM] TheRealRazzy: Didn't even think of that lol.
    [4/1/2014 11:40:22 PM] R. R. (App Developer): Yeah its important to get that as well
    [4/1/2014 11:40:55 PM] TheRealRazzy: I'm sure I'll have more features for you to add at a later date, but for now the features I've listed should be good enough for the start of the app.
    [4/1/2014 11:43:25 PM] R. R. (App Developer): alright yes. when are you gonna get back to me with an answer?
    [4/1/2014 11:43:42 PM] TheRealRazzy: Within 12 hours I think.
    [4/1/2014 11:44:29 PM] TheRealRazzy: I'll most likely be choosing you since you were one of the only ones that gave me a portfolio lol.  And most of the apps in the portfolio were complex so it means you know what you're doing :)
    [4/1/2014 11:48:31 PM] R. R. (App Developer): Thank YOu i appreciate that
    [4/2/2014 12:08:17 AM] TheRealRazzy: You're welcome :)
    [4/2/2014 12:53:30 PM] R. R. (App Developer): Hello buddy
    [4/2/2014 3:15:31 PM] R. R. (App Developer): you therre?
    [4/2/2014 4:33:32 PM] TheRealRazzy: Hey man.
    [4/2/2014 4:33:43 PM] TheRealRazzy: I'm talking to my partner right now.
    [4/2/2014 4:33:49 PM] TheRealRazzy: Sending him your portfolio.
    [4/2/2014 9:15:54 PM] R. R. (App Developer): Hey buddy
    [4/2/2014 9:15:58 PM] R. R. (App Developer): any updates?
    [4/3/2014 1:54:20 AM] R. R. (App Developer): Hello bud.
    [4/3/2014 1:54:25 AM] R. R. (App Developer): Can we talk now
    [4/3/2014 8:58:33 AM] TheRealRazzy: Hey there.
    [4/3/2014 8:58:53 AM] TheRealRazzy: We're going to go with you for our app.  I just have to get some money from my partner before we push forward :)
    [4/3/2014 8:59:21 AM] R. R. (App Developer): sounds good
    [4/3/2014 8:59:24 AM] R. R. (App Developer): let me know ill be here
    [4/3/2014 8:59:39 AM] TheRealRazzy: Alright, thanks :)
    [4/3/2014 10:28:49 AM] R. R. (App Developer): any luck :)
    [4/3/2014 2:41:31 PM] R. R. (App Developer): Hello Razzy ping me when you see this thanks bud
    [4/3/2014 5:57:25 PM] R. R. (App Developer): Hello razzy.
    [4/3/2014 7:00:43 PM | Edited 7:00:48 PM] R. R. (App Developer): Ping me back if anything please
    [4/4/2014 10:51:11 AM] R. R. (App Developer): hello razzy
    [4/4/2014 12:52:52 PM] R. R. (App Developer): are we gonna do this buddy?
    [4/4/2014 9:27:22 PM] R. R. (App Developer): Hey buddy, i'm ready to work
    [4/5/2014 9:32:04 AM] R. R. (App Developer): You there?
    [4/5/2014 1:34:46 PM] R. R. (App Developer): Hello sir, can you please ping me back
    [4/5/2014 1:34:51 PM] R. R. (App Developer): are we doing this at all?
    [4/5/2014 1:36:27 PM] *** Missed call from R. R. (App Developer). ***
    [4/5/2014 7:02:53 PM] R. R. (App Developer): razzy
    [4/5/2014 7:02:54 PM] R. R. (App Developer): ?
    [4/5/2014 9:07:44 PM] TheRealRazzy: hi there.  I'll see my business partner tomorrow so hopefully I can get the funds from him then.
    [4/5/2014 9:26:48 PM] R. R. (App Developer): alright thanks:)
    [4/6/2014 12:19:58 PM] R. R. (App Developer): any luck?
    [4/6/2014 12:20:57 PM] TheRealRazzy: I haven't gotten together with my partner yet.  I should be seeing him in about an hour or so though.
    [4/6/2014 1:53:47 PM] R. R. (App Developer): alright let me know please
    [4/6/2014 5:40:09 PM] R. R. (App Developer): Hello Razzy :) ping me whenever you are ready
    [4/6/2014 10:28:42 PM] R. R. (App Developer): hello razzy are you there
    [4/7/2014 2:28:31 AM] R. R. (App Developer): ?
    [4/7/2014 2:57:07 AM] TheRealRazzy: Sorry, I forget to log off of skype every now and then.
    We'll be good to go on Wednesday :)
    [4/7/2014 2:57:43 AM] TheRealRazzy: My partner looked through your portfolio and liked it.
    I will most likely have other work for you after this app is done as well :)
    [4/9/2014 7:05:09 AM] R. R. (App Developer): Hello Razzy it's wednesday
    [4/9/2014 7:05:14 AM] R. R. (App Developer): How are you, im ready
    [4/9/2014 10:55:13 AM] TheRealRazzy: Hey R.R.
    I got the funds last night and I'll be depositing them today.   What's your paypal email?
    [4/9/2014 10:56:58 AM] R. R. (App Developer): (paypal email removed for privacy.  I can give it to you if needed)
    [4/9/2014 10:57:35 AM] TheRealRazzy: Alright.  After I deposit the funds into my business account I'll send over the $500 for the app.
    [4/9/2014 10:57:57 AM] R. R. (App Developer): Sounds good buddy let me know ill be here
    [4/9/2014 10:57:59 AM] TheRealRazzy: Do you still have all the info about the app that I wanted?
    [4/9/2014 10:58:20 AM] R. R. (App Developer): Yes i do
    [4/9/2014 10:59:24 AM] TheRealRazzy: Alright, sweet.    I'll probably send the money over to you around 5pm CST.
    [4/9/2014 11:00:36 AM] R. R. (App Developer): Excellent buddy ill be ready
    [4/9/2014 11:00:44 AM] TheRealRazzy: Sounds good :)
    [4/9/2014 12:51:47 PM] R. R. (App Developer): Buddy got gmail got locked i tried many times couldnt get in i called paypal and changed my email to : (removed for privacy)
    [4/9/2014 12:52:06 PM] R. R. (App Developer): paypalID: (removed for privacy)
    [4/9/2014 12:52:14 PM] R. R. (App Developer): i hope you dont mind buddy. THanks
    [4/9/2014 4:25:26 PM] R. R. (App Developer): Hello buddy, you there?
    [4/9/2014 6:00:18 PM] R. R. (App Developer): Hey bud, it's already 5pm you around?
    [4/9/2014 7:46:43 PM] R. R. (App Developer): Razzy you there?
    [4/9/2014 8:13:32 PM] TheRealRazzy: Hey R.R.
    Sorry, I took a nap and it was longer than expected.
    Why did you paypal get locked?
    [4/9/2014 8:39:56 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): No it did not got blocked
    [4/9/2014 8:40:15 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): i lost my password and couldnt access using my email so i had to change it
    [4/9/2014 8:40:28 PM] TheRealRazzy: ahhh got ya.
    [4/9/2014 8:40:28 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): that's why but im still can receive money
    [4/9/2014 8:41:06 PM] TheRealRazzy: Alright.   I can send you milestone payments of $100.
    You said it would take 5 days to complete, correct?
    [4/9/2014 8:42:22 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): the app is going to cost 500$ sir and yes 5 days Max.
    [4/9/2014 8:42:38 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): i was expecting at least 250$ to get me started...
    [4/9/2014 8:47:13 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): you still with me?
    [4/9/2014 8:50:17 PM] TheRealRazzy: How about $150.
    [4/9/2014 8:50:26 PM] TheRealRazzy: sorry, I was on the phone.
    [4/9/2014 8:50:29 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): let's do 200$ sounds good?
    [4/9/2014 8:50:32 PM] TheRealRazzy: Deal.
    [4/9/2014 8:50:36 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Alrighty
    [4/9/2014 8:50:48 PM] TheRealRazzy: [Wednesday, April 09, 2014 12:52 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): 
    <<< (removedfor privacy)
    That's your paypal email, correct?
    [4/9/2014 8:50:52 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): paypalID: (removed for privacy)
    [4/9/2014 8:50:55 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Correct
    [4/9/2014 8:50:55 PM] TheRealRazzy: got it :)
    [4/9/2014 8:51:06 PM] TheRealRazzy: Sending $200 over to you now.
    [4/9/2014 8:51:14 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): alright i'm here.
    [4/9/2014 8:53:07 PM] TheRealRazzy: Seo Systems and Services, you have sent $200.00 USD to (Named removed for privacy)
    [4/9/2014 8:53:22 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Alrighty
    [4/9/2014 8:53:36 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Will update you tomorrow night with some progress
    [4/9/2014 8:53:53 PM] TheRealRazzy: Sounds good :)  Thanks man.
    [4/9/2014 8:54:01 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): thank you man
    [4/9/2014 8:54:08 PM] TheRealRazzy: You're welcome :)
    [4/9/2014 8:54:26 PM] TheRealRazzy: If this app goes well I'll have you make another one that I've had on my mind for a while :)
    [4/9/2014 8:54:39 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): excellent more work!
    [4/9/2014 8:55:27 PM] TheRealRazzy: haha :)
    [4/9/2014 10:39:54 PM] TheRealRazzy: One thing I forgot to mention, I think.
    Feature 5.
    [4/9/2014 10:40:19 PM] TheRealRazzy: Feature 5 extended
    [4/9/2014 10:42:21 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): uhmmmm
    [4/9/2014 10:42:28 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): you want this feature?
    [4/9/2014 10:44:15 PM] TheRealRazzy: yeah.
    [4/9/2014 10:48:59 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): alright
    [4/9/2014 10:49:07 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): uhmmm let me take a look
    [4/9/2014 10:50:24 PM] TheRealRazzy: Feature 5 extended
    [4/12/2014 12:28:57 AM] TheRealRazzy: Any update on the app?
    [4/12/2014 2:02:49 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Hello bro working on it
    [4/12/2014 2:12:57 AM] TheRealRazzy: When do you think you'll have everything finished up?
    [4/14/2014 9:28:16 AM] TheRealRazzy: How's the app coming along?
    [4/14/2014 3:13:46 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Hey buddy its all good updating you more later on tonight
    [4/14/2014 5:43:24 PM] TheRealRazzy: Alright.   How much longer do you think it will take to finish?
    [4/14/2014 10:19:41 PM] TheRealRazzy: How much longer do you think it's going to take?
    [4/14/2014 11:41:55 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): friday buddy.
    [4/16/2014 2:56:11 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Hey buddy, im still working sorry i was not able to provide updates.
    [4/16/2014 2:56:14 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): will do later on tonight
    [4/18/2014 10:51:33 PM] TheRealRazzy: Any updates?
    [4/18/2014 10:52:05 PM] TheRealRazzy: I kind of need this app up soon.  Within a few days would be great.  I've already bought advertising spots and they're being wasted every day that passes.
    [4/18/2014 11:30:05 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Yes buddy
    [4/18/2014 11:32:31 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): couple of days more.
    [4/19/2014 9:34:56 AM] TheRealRazzy: When will it be done?
    [4/19/2014 8:35:48 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Will be showing you some updates by tomorrow, couple of days more
    [4/20/2014 12:54:18 AM] TheRealRazzy: Alright.  I'll be waiting patiently.
    [4/21/2014 11:02:57 PM] TheRealRazzy: How's the app coming along?
    [4/22/2014 3:19:31 PM] TheRealRazzy: Are you finished with the app?
    [4/22/2014 3:28:22 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Yed almost budy i had  few issues running it
    [4/22/2014 3:28:37 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): The compile got errors fixng them
    [4/22/2014 3:34:57 PM] TheRealRazzy: Alright.  Do you have any work that I can see?  I'm going to see my partner tonight and he's going to want to see something.
    [4/22/2014 11:55:26 PM] TheRealRazzy: Do you have an update for me?
    [4/24/2014 12:22:05 AM] TheRealRazzy: Hey man.  Got anything I can see?
    [4/24/2014 10:10:27 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): I've fixing the issue, tomorrow showing you full update for sure Razzy sorry for the delay.
    [4/24/2014 11:19:42 AM] TheRealRazzy: Alright.
    [4/25/2014 10:48:20 AM] TheRealRazzy: Alright, have anything for me?
    [4/25/2014 9:15:47 PM] TheRealRazzy: ???
    [4/26/2014 10:12:29 AM] TheRealRazzy: Are you there?  You said you were going to have something to show me yesterday.
    [4/26/2014 10:46:51 PM] TheRealRazzy: Hey, are you there?
    [4/28/2014 3:06:40 PM] TheRealRazzy: Are you there?
    (Dispute in paypal was filed here)
    [4/30/2014 1:50:33 PM] TheRealRazzy: Please send me back my $200 since you have not produced anything yet and you said it would be no longer than 5 days to complete the app.
    [5/1/2014 2:29:37 AM] TheRealRazzy: Are you there?
    [5/1/2014 9:54:40 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): I told you to wait a bit sir, i already completed the app and now that you opened up a paypal dispute i cant just send you the app like that.
    [5/2/2014 1:12:47 AM] TheRealRazzy: Really?   I hadn't heard from you in a few days and assumed you were scamming me.
    [5/2/2014 1:13:48 AM] TheRealRazzy: Send me the app and I'll send you the $300 for full payment.
    [5/2/2014 2:10:08 PM] TheRealRazzy: Are you there?
    [5/3/2014 1:23:10 AM] TheRealRazzy: Are you there?
    [5/3/2014 5:37:56 AM] TheRealRazzy: I'd love to send you the additional $300 for the completed work if you have it.  But if I don't get the app, or at the very least a response back, I'll be forced to open a shit list thread.
    [5/3/2014 7:56:48 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Listen pal, i have finished the app you opened the claim on paypal i did not. You can either send me 150$ or will not release your app, there is no gurantee for me. and my paypal is screwed now because of your claim. I have to use my cousins paypal.
    [5/3/2014 3:17:43 PM] TheRealRazzy: Well you won the claim/dispute so there shouldn't be anything wrong with your account.   Where do I send $150 for my app?
    [5/3/2014 3:18:37 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Please wait im in class
    [5/3/2014 3:18:44 PM] TheRealRazzy: Alright.
    [5/3/2014 5:37:28 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Can we do this monday im gonna be busy until sunday monday we get over this i promise.
    [5/3/2014 6:34:44 PM] TheRealRazzy: Alright.
    [5/5/2014 9:04:49 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): you there?
    [5/5/2014 11:52:40 PM] TheRealRazzy: hey.
    [5/5/2014 11:52:42 PM] TheRealRazzy: Just got in.
    [5/6/2014 3:30:20 AM] TheRealRazzy: You there?
    [5/6/2014 1:57:18 PM] TheRealRazzy: Are you there?
    [5/6/2014 1:58:19 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Yes cpming back home
    [5/6/2014 1:58:39 PM] TheRealRazzy: Alright.  Will you be able to send me the app when you get home?
    [5/6/2014 7:41:09 PM] TheRealRazzy: Hey man, you there?
    [5/7/2014 9:32:31 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Yes brother today it is. I've been so damn busy no joke. Im gonna be home all afternoon so we can get over with this.
    [5/7/2014 9:32:40 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Alright i promise. Today it is
    [5/7/2014 2:11:42 PM] TheRealRazzy: Alright.  I have to leave in about 2 1/2 hours so let's get this done soon.
    [5/7/2014 3:09:35 PM] TheRealRazzy: I have to leave at 4 now.  It's 3:09.
    [5/7/2014 3:09:53 PM] TheRealRazzy: *It's 3:09 here.
    [5/7/2014 3:15:37 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): What time are you coming back?
    [5/7/2014 3:17:12 PM] TheRealRazzy: 7pm probably
    [5/7/2014 3:17:24 PM] TheRealRazzy: Maybe 6pm
    [5/7/2014 7:25:44 PM] TheRealRazzy: I'm back.
    [5/8/2014 9:24:11 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Hello Razzy.
    [5/8/2014 9:41:38 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): I'm ready to do this Let me know ok ill be here.
    [5/8/2014 6:05:35 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Hello
    [5/8/2014 10:01:18 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Razzy? let me know.
    [5/8/2014 10:12:03 PM] *** Missed call from CPAENGINE (App Developer). ***
    [5/9/2014 11:11:33 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): let me know buddy, i wanna get this done
    [5/9/2014 3:42:38 PM] TheRealRazzy: Hey man.  I just had to spend a bunch of money so I won't be able to pay you until tomorrow or Sunday.
    [5/9/2014 6:33:51 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Alright let me know ill be here
    [5/9/2014 7:00:37 PM] TheRealRazzy: Alright.
    [5/12/2014 4:27:09 PM] TheRealRazzy: You there?
    [5/12/2014 5:38:58 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Hey buddy yes
    [5/12/2014 5:43:54 PM] TheRealRazzy: Alright.  I can send you the rest of the money now if you want.
    [5/12/2014 5:50:02 PM] TheRealRazzy: What email am I sending the money to?
    [5/12/2014 5:59:26 PM] TheRealRazzy: I'll be back in a couple hours.
    [5/12/2014 6:42:00 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): In a couple of hours should be fine
    [5/12/2014 10:17:12 PM] TheRealRazzy: Where am I sending the money?
    [5/12/2014 10:18:30 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): To my paypal
    [5/12/2014 10:18:49 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): One second im in the shower. Getting out in a minute
    [5/12/2014 10:28:35 PM] TheRealRazzy: Alright.  Send me the email of your paypal.
    [5/12/2014 10:33:37 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): (removed for privacy) 
    [5/12/2014 10:34:01 PM] TheRealRazzy: I'll send $150 now and then the rest after I get the app.
    [5/12/2014 10:35:31 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): ok
    [5/12/2014 10:36:18 PM] TheRealRazzy: Seo Systems and Services, you have sent $150.00 USD to juana alvitres fernandez.
    [5/12/2014 10:36:59 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): check it now getting out of shower
    [5/12/2014 10:42:53 PM] TheRealRazzy: Ok, send over the app now.
    [5/12/2014 10:44:36 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): ok sec
    [5/12/2014 10:54:15 PM] TheRealRazzy: When will you be sending the app?
    [5/12/2014 10:55:11 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): sec mate
    [5/12/2014 10:55:17 PM | Edited 10:55:30 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): wrapping it all up
    [5/12/2014 10:55:51 PM] TheRealRazzy: k
    [5/12/2014 10:56:29 PM] TheRealRazzy: I assume it's formatted in APK correct?
    [5/12/2014 11:06:11 PM] TheRealRazzy: What's taking so long?
    [5/12/2014 11:07:07 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): working on the APK format
    [5/12/2014 11:22:57 PM] TheRealRazzy: How much longer?
    [5/13/2014 12:15:20 AM] TheRealRazzy: It's been over an hour since your last response.
    [5/13/2014 12:15:31 AM] TheRealRazzy: How much longer?
    [5/13/2014 12:15:44 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): im still here.
    [5/13/2014 12:15:49 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Working please
    [5/13/2014 12:15:52 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): :)
    [5/13/2014 12:15:57 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): not going anywhere
    [5/13/2014 12:16:08 AM] TheRealRazzy: How much longer is it going to take?
    [5/13/2014 12:16:50 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): a bit long
    [5/13/2014 12:17:06 AM] TheRealRazzy: Estimate how long it will take
    [5/13/2014 12:17:10 AM] TheRealRazzy: I'll be awake for a while.
    [5/13/2014 12:17:32 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): will give you an estimate soon
    [5/13/2014 12:29:26 AM] TheRealRazzy: Estimate?
    [5/13/2014 12:30:03 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Couple of hours.
    [5/13/2014 12:36:27 AM] TheRealRazzy: Alright.  It's 12:36am here now.  I'll contact you at 2:36am for the finished app.
    [5/13/2014 12:43:31 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): ITS AN estimated time buddy
    [5/13/2014 1:08:38 AM] TheRealRazzy: I'll still be contacting you for an update.
    [5/13/2014 2:43:47 AM] TheRealRazzy: Anything?
    [5/13/2014 4:02:55 AM] TheRealRazzy: ???
    [5/13/2014 4:54:15 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Nothing yet
    [5/13/2014 5:30:20 AM] TheRealRazzy: How much longer do you think it will be?
    [5/13/2014 6:32:28 AM] TheRealRazzy: ???
    [5/13/2014 3:34:42 PM] TheRealRazzy: Do you have anything for me yet?
    [5/13/2014 10:37:41 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): soon buddy
    [5/14/2014 12:50:49 AM] TheRealRazzy: How much longer?
    [5/14/2014 11:43:05 PM] TheRealRazzy: Hey man.  Do you have the app?
    [5/14/2014 11:43:20 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Hey buddy yes its almost done
    [5/14/2014 11:43:25 PM] TheRealRazzy: How much longer?
    [5/14/2014 11:49:26 PM] TheRealRazzy: ???
    [5/14/2014 11:49:55 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): few hours its done
    [5/14/2014 11:50:06 PM] TheRealRazzy: So I should get it tonight?
    [5/14/2014 11:51:28 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): sure
    [5/14/2014 11:51:43 PM] TheRealRazzy: Yes?
    [5/15/2014 4:49:43 AM] TheRealRazzy: Do you have the app?
    [5/15/2014 3:48:51 PM] TheRealRazzy: Do you have anything for me?
    [5/16/2014 2:58:03 AM] TheRealRazzy: You there?
    [5/16/2014 5:30:56 PM] TheRealRazzy: Are you there?
    [5/16/2014 5:31:03 PM] TheRealRazzy: Send me whatever files you have.
    [5/16/2014 5:31:10 PM] TheRealRazzy: I'll reformat them myself
    [5/16/2014 7:38:16 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Alright , hang on im almost done buddy.
    [5/17/2014 12:07:30 AM] TheRealRazzy: How much longer?
    [5/17/2014 4:23:47 AM] TheRealRazzy: Almost done?
    [5/18/2014 2:22:04 AM] TheRealRazzy: When will I get my app.
    [5/18/2014 10:50:00 PM] TheRealRazzy: Sooo are you there?
    [5/19/2014 9:55:56 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): I'm having a few issues with GPS Area feature, no worries im fixing it again. didnt work last time like i wanted
    [5/19/2014 10:42:56 AM] TheRealRazzy: When am I getting the app?
    [5/19/2014 7:55:39 PM] TheRealRazzy: Hey man.  There's a huge tournament this Thursday and I need the app by then so I can get a couple thousand downloads.
    [5/19/2014 7:56:27 PM] TheRealRazzy: We've already got the shirts and Jerseys made.
    [5/19/2014 8:04:13 PM] TheRealRazzy: http://imgur.com/Ja4hkBK
    [5/20/2014 11:26:28 AM] TheRealRazzy: You there?
    [5/20/2014 11:27:35 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Yes already fixed the issues , running some tests soon. youll have it before thursday.
    [5/20/2014 11:29:42 AM] TheRealRazzy: Ok.  I really need it before Thursday so if you can be sure to get everything fixed up I'd be greatful.
    [5/20/2014 6:30:18 PM] TheRealRazzy: Alright, just ordered hosting for the site so hopefully it's set up by tonight or tomorrow.  I can really start to advertise when you finish the app.
    [5/21/2014 1:12:10 PM] TheRealRazzy: got anything for me?
    [5/22/2014 2:49:58 PM] TheRealRazzy: Are you finished?
    [5/22/2014 11:36:46 PM] TheRealRazzy: It's Thursday.  Do you have my app finished?
    [5/23/2014 4:29:30 PM] TheRealRazzy: So should I assume you don't have the app finished?
    [5/23/2014 11:23:29 PM] TheRealRazzy: Are you there?
    [5/24/2014 1:32:38 PM] TheRealRazzy: You there?
    [5/24/2014 9:52:42 PM] TheRealRazzy: Am I going to hear from you before Monday?
    [5/24/2014 9:57:20 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Hey buddy sorry i was at the hospital
    [5/24/2014 9:58:15 PM] TheRealRazzy: Alright.
    [5/24/2014 9:58:23 PM] TheRealRazzy: Are you ok?
    [5/24/2014 10:52:10 PM] TheRealRazzy: You there?
    [5/25/2014 2:17:54 PM] TheRealRazzy: Hey man.  Do you have the app?
    [5/26/2014 10:31:45 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Yes i am ok. i have the app. tomorrow you get the app if not tonight
    [5/26/2014 1:47:08 PM] TheRealRazzy: Alright.
    [5/27/2014 9:46:49 PM] TheRealRazzy: have anything for me?
    [5/28/2014 10:48:38 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Hey buddy i'm recovering and getting better. I am so sorry i tell you what.
    today will wrap it all up and send you the app within this week, "within this week" ok dont wanna fool around or waste your time. just give me time no more time than this week.
    [5/28/2014 5:05:36 PM] TheRealRazzy: Alright.
    [5/28/2014 5:05:53 PM] TheRealRazzy: Within this week as in Saturday or Friday is the deadline?
    [5/31/2014 2:56:09 PM] TheRealRazzy: It's Saturday. Do you have the app.
    [5/31/2014 2:56:57 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): i have till sunday no worries will try my best to deliver this within today
    [5/31/2014 3:02:10 PM] TheRealRazzy: Alright.
    [5/31/2014 3:35:55 PM] TheRealRazzy: Are you positive you'll have it done?
    [5/31/2014 3:37:31 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Yes
    [5/31/2014 3:37:36 PM] TheRealRazzy: Alright.
    [6/2/2014 9:27:22 PM] TheRealRazzy: Do you have anything for me?
    [6/3/2014 10:21:18 AM] TheRealRazzy: ??????
    [6/3/2014 2:03:42 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Yes allow me a few hours. i had a personal problem recently sorry i was not able to reply back
    [6/3/2014 4:56:01 PM] TheRealRazzy: It's been a few hours.  Got the app
    [6/3/2014 4:56:03 PM] TheRealRazzy: ?
    [6/4/2014 5:49:58 PM] TheRealRazzy: Hey man, do you have anything for me?
    [6/5/2014 6:57:23 AM] TheRealRazzy: ????
    [6/5/2014 6:59:24 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Hey buddy, ive been dealing with some hospital bills, can you give me till today
    [6/5/2014 6:59:47 AM] TheRealRazzy: I should expect the app by the end of today?
    [6/5/2014 7:00:15 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): yes you should
    [6/5/2014 7:00:34 AM] TheRealRazzy: Alright.
    [6/6/2014 12:53:57 PM] TheRealRazzy: Hey man.  When are you sending me the app?
    [6/7/2014 3:22:42 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Morning it is for sure. im not kidding. will send you the winrar file
    [6/7/2014 3:22:49 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): going back to bed.
    [6/8/2014 5:59:08 PM] TheRealRazzy: When are you sending me the file?
    [6/8/2014 5:59:25 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Im getting it ready now
    [6/8/2014 5:59:31 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): hang on please
    [6/8/2014 5:59:31 PM] TheRealRazzy: alright.
    [6/8/2014 9:41:33 PM] *** CPAENGINE (App Developer) sent app v1.0.7z ***
    [6/8/2014 9:41:53 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): test it on your phone first, the first beta file.
    [6/8/2014 11:35:20 PM] TheRealRazzy: Alright.  I'll download it and test it in a little bit.
    [6/8/2014 11:36:27 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): go ahead
    [6/8/2014 11:48:00 PM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): you there?
    [6/9/2014 12:09:00 AM] TheRealRazzy: yeah I'm here.  Downloading now.
    [6/9/2014 12:10:54 AM] TheRealRazzy: What's the files password?
    [6/9/2014 12:23:57 AM] TheRealRazzy: You there?
    [6/9/2014 1:54:54 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): yes please send me the remaining 150$
    [6/9/2014 1:55:07 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): so give you the winrar pass.
    [6/9/2014 1:55:20 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): (paypal email removed.  I have it saved if needed)
    [6/9/2014 1:55:59 AM] TheRealRazzy: considering this is the only updated I've ever gotten, I'd like to look at the app before sending the remaining $150.
    [6/9/2014 1:56:36 AM] TheRealRazzy: You can post a shit list thread if I don't send the payment after I look at the app.
    [6/9/2014 1:56:42 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): thats because i had an accident.
    [6/9/2014 1:57:03 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): you already have the app. i cannot risk to just give you the app
    [6/9/2014 1:57:12 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): without my remaining money buddy
    [6/9/2014 1:57:21 AM] TheRealRazzy: I don't have the app.  I have a locked file.
    [6/9/2014 1:57:29 AM] TheRealRazzy: How do I know the app is in there for sure?
    [6/9/2014 1:57:43 AM] TheRealRazzy: It's been months since we started this, please just give me the password and I'll send the money.
    [6/9/2014 1:58:03 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): that's the app sir. Please trust me.
    [6/9/2014 1:58:51 AM] TheRealRazzy: I've trusted you this entire time.  You'll have to trust me this time.  You know my username on BHW and my paypal email.  You can report me where ever you like if I don't send the payment.
    [6/9/2014 1:59:14 AM] TheRealRazzy: I've already sent you $350 so now you'll have to trust me this time.
    [6/9/2014 1:59:30 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): sorry sir, but at this point, i have no money and this is the only money im gonna have for the entire week or so. so please understand
    [6/9/2014 1:59:36 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): you have the app.
    [6/9/2014 1:59:45 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): already you need the pass.
    [6/9/2014 2:00:46 AM] TheRealRazzy: Give me the pass and I'll give you the remaining $150.  How do I know if you're not just going to receive the money and then delete me from skype.   I have the money ready to go.  I don't understand what the problem is.
    [6/9/2014 2:01:04 AM] TheRealRazzy: Show me some screenshots of the app and I'd be more willing to send the $150 prior to getting the password.
    [6/9/2014 2:02:04 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): i have to turn on my mac.
    [6/9/2014 2:02:25 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): come on buddy, you do trust me.
    [6/9/2014 2:02:34 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): please, im not going to be kidding around
    [6/9/2014 2:02:50 AM] TheRealRazzy: I'll trust you when I get the password.  It's you who doesn't trust me I think.
    [6/9/2014 2:03:04 AM] TheRealRazzy: I've paid you blindly twice now and haven't seen even a screenshot.
    [6/9/2014 2:03:19 AM] TheRealRazzy: Screenshots of my app will get you $150
    [6/9/2014 2:03:37 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): there is no screenshot due to the fact that i was way busy with bills and my health
    [6/9/2014 2:03:45 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): can you understand that :(
    [6/9/2014 2:03:51 AM] TheRealRazzy: Screenshots are very easy to do.
    [6/9/2014 2:04:01 AM] TheRealRazzy: It literally takes 2 seconds
    [6/9/2014 2:04:02 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): im not on my mac
    [6/9/2014 2:04:14 AM] TheRealRazzy: You can still do them.
    [6/9/2014 2:04:38 AM] TheRealRazzy: You can even download gyazo and it will let you screenshot right away without having to save any files.
    [6/9/2014 2:04:56 AM] TheRealRazzy: http://www.gyazo.com
    [6/9/2014 2:05:09 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): ill send you the shots in the morning im going back to bed, i was told i cannot stay awake for too long at night
    [6/9/2014 2:05:22 AM] TheRealRazzy: So you don't want your money?
    [6/9/2014 2:05:39 AM] TheRealRazzy: The quicker you send me the password, the quicker I send you $150.
    [6/9/2014 2:05:43 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): im not in a hurry
    [6/9/2014 2:05:46 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): morning it is.
    [6/9/2014 2:06:38 AM] TheRealRazzy: Fine, I'm sending you your money.
    [6/9/2014 2:06:51 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): thank you
    [6/9/2014 2:07:34 AM] TheRealRazzy: Seo Systems and Services, you have sent $150.00 USD to (Name removed for privacy.  I have it saved if needed).
    [6/9/2014 2:08:26 AM] TheRealRazzy: Password?
    [6/9/2014 2:08:34 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): let me confirm please
    [6/9/2014 2:09:40 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): hang on please im sending you the remaining files for the UI
    [6/9/2014 2:09:51 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): uploading it
    [6/9/2014 2:13:23 AM] TheRealRazzy: Have you started the upload?
    [6/9/2014 2:15:14 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): yes
    [6/9/2014 2:15:32 AM] TheRealRazzy: Do you not have a good internet connection?
    [6/9/2014 2:27:41 AM] TheRealRazzy: So what's the password to the other file you sent?
    [6/9/2014 2:34:57 AM] TheRealRazzy: Are you there?
    [6/9/2014 2:42:43 AM] TheRealRazzy: You're not making me very comfortable right now.  Send me the password or I'll open a dispute within paypal.
    [6/9/2014 2:42:56 AM] TheRealRazzy: And also open a shit list thread.
    [6/9/2014 2:43:36 AM] TheRealRazzy: on BHW.
    [6/9/2014 4:02:33 PM] TheRealRazzy: So when am I getting the password and other files?
    [6/10/2014 12:23:42 AM] TheRealRazzy: You there?
    [6/10/2014 12:28:29 AM] CPAENGINE (App Developer): Hey buddy im uploading it again my internet is way too slow please wait a bit
    [6/10/2014 1:28:45 AM] TheRealRazzy: What's the password to the file you sent me?
    [6/10/2014 10:39:31 AM] TheRealRazzy: What's the password?
    [6/10/2014 7:58:23 PM] TheRealRazzy: ????????
    [6/10/2014 11:44:04 PM] TheRealRazzy: Are you there?
    [6/11/2014 2:45:48 AM] TheRealRazzy: ??? are you going to give me the password?
    [6/11/2014 12:29:38 PM] TheRealRazzy: If I don't get the password and files in the next 24 hours I'll be shit listing you on blackhatworld and also filing a dispute in paypal until I receive everything.
    Sorry, but this has gone on long enough.  It takes 2 seconds to type a password and send it to me.
    [6/12/2014 12:57:23 PM] TheRealRazzy: I didn't think I'd get a response.
    I've edited the skype log so that the links, names, and emails were removed. I have them saved in a .txt file in case a mod or admin needs them.

    Thanks guys.

    - TRR
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  2. OldSalt

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    CPAENGINE has been notified that he has 48 hours to respond to this thread.

    @TheRealRazzy - send him his skype address and I'll notify him there too.

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  3. TheRealRazzy

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    Thanks OS.

    If he gives me the mobile app then I'll call it even.
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    TheRealRazzy Supreme Member

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    Well it seems we aren't going to get a response.
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    Sullivansoft Junior Member

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    If I may tag onto this with "The Real Razzy" I also was just recently scammed by "CPAENGINE", if I may post in here our Skype conversations please let me know. I didn't know if I could or if I must start a new one.
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  6. TheRealRazzy

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    I don't mind, but it's up to OS.
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    Additional info isn't needed - CPAENGINE has been perma-banned.

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  8. TheRealRazzy

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    Thanks OS.

    It seems he's using the same skype account in order to scam BHW users. I talked with Sullivansoft and looked at his skype records then asked what the skype ID was and it's identical to what he was talking to me through.