CPA + SEO Journal

kirkonpolttaja said:

Damn i hate this season!!! My traffic has dropped and conversions suck cause it is summer on the way My rankings are still being up but conversion has plummeth...

Also my second site is STILL DANCING!!! For crying out loud!! It is well optimized but still something is making it stay up there... what would be the best way to bring site down from dancing?...

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Is your niche seasonal? Evergreen niches shouldn't be affected atm. What kind of backlinks have you built to the second site?

jiggsaw said:

Is your niche seasonal? Evergreen niches shouldn't be affected atm. What kind of backlinks have you built to the second site?

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It is somewhat seasonal as i'm converting best on holidays when people have more time to google my niche.

Hmmm i think i ended up into eternal dancing because of one fiverr gig which made me 15 web2.0 and blasted them with xrumer/sb.... Too much power so i have been dancing from january lmao... So possibly dancing should stop in "near" future yes? or i need to buy some high authority links to bring dancing down.

Last month earnings which i received few days ago were:
$360 + 130?

It is still good for single site... but i'm little dissappointed in myself cause i started making way too many sites to maintain and one of them i got ranking at #4 until domain got suspended lmao... i had review site of one "penny auction" site and i think their people got upset cause i was saying they are fraud (and they really are), didnt have the change to make money out of it cause suspension... was directing them to other more paying (to me) penny auction site.

I should ease on the site building... tough i have 1 host sitting empty for 3 months so i might be going to get domain for it (site which domain got suspended) and copy my first money making site with tweaks so maybe i have 2 money hoses....

Also i'm getting my toy on next week if i'm lucky cost $+~1100 and i should get around 100-200? for each run... and there is many runs!!!

Small update how everything has gone so far around world of IM from fall to present:

Ok so i started my journey half-a-year ago with first site, it took a month to get first conversion and now it is dominating 5 keywords at 1-3 places and #1 for keyword with 22k exact local searches.
It is getting roughly 550 visitors daily and income is jumping at estimate of $18~14€. This niche is converting best on holidays so now it has been calm as sun is showing much more at this time of year.

Some statisctic how much i have done with my first site so far:
From one CPA network: +~$1600
and from another network: +~700€

So i'm going somewhere $2550 from single site.

about $1100 went to offline toy and some of the money went to sites and on tools + services.

When i established my second site around cristhmas, it has been dancing ever since because i made huge mistake when making links when i just had 1 article in it... went down too fast and it has been in peril since.
Then i jumped into pinterest bandwagon and started making direct links to my second site from pinterest (gaining trust and social value tough i cant convert pinterest traffic with this site.... just trying to stop dancing with social traffic.)

And with pinterest, as we know social media is KILLER when it comes to money, i'm trying to stay with pinterest as long as i can cause it's brand new still and not that spammed yet, i need to produce atleast $11k with pinterest to invest in future projects. Now i'm producing pinterest accounts for spamming, if someone is interested in helping out a fellow member and you need pinterest accounts, i have rate of $1/account (bulk example: $20/30accounts).

Summer is coming and i'm now saving all money i make so i can have a holiday Last months income was lowest yet!!! But i'm already estimating much better income for this month than last months income so i'm happy.

Also my nitwit pal owns me 600€ so i'm happily waiting for that sum aswell.

Share your toughts with me! Lets storm!

EDIT: also looks like my avatar works now!!! oh happy days i feel like a person now haha.

hey man great journal, been following your progress.

i have been using pinterest for a while and the traffic is awesome at the moment.

paranora said:

hey man great journal, been following your progress.

i have been using pinterest for a while and the traffic is awesome at the moment.

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Thanks mate!

Can you throw me estimates on what kind of traffic are you receiving from what kind of ammount of accounts? i have 3 accounts under the way and i'm receiving daily of maybe 50 visitors only.
I have a feeling that my traffic numbers suck as people have told that you can get 1k's EASILY from work of 15min.

Well i'm now getting used to pinterest and i passed my last months earnings few days ago small decrese in rankings but i'm going to get it back up with GSA again... should buy VPS to install it on so it can run 24/7, now i'm running it now and then like once a month haha... still good enough for my site!

My second site is STILL somewhere, how the heck am i able to get it down? any ideas???...

kirkonpolttaja said:

My second site is STILL somewhere, how the heck am i able to get it down? any ideas???...

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BOOM!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZzBd41NuZw

Thanks newest google update i love you! newest update broke my sites dancing shoes! Here is my thread about most recent google update (atm 23.4.2012) :http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...e/432037-still-hope-newest-google-update.html

So here is my latest rankings Still havent seen any difference in revenue due to that i think google is still updating my SERPS (might be temprary?) nor this day is bad for converts
HERE YOU GO!



This is my second sites rankings and looks like easy street starts with that particular site My first site is dancing a little (1 keyword dropped to #9 from #5 and is now coming back up again).
Hopefully i can start focusing on my forum next My 4th website took a blow some time ago btw! I was ranking for their keyword haha... they took my domain down (suspended).

Thing that i have learned from SEO:
To save alot of time and start getting more money, ALWAYS, i mean ALWAYS wait atleast 1month after all articles are in place before you go do backlinking. This is something which i have learned by trial and error, now i'm waiting a bit before i try to rank my forum, maybe on summer so it's aged a bit

Dunno if i have told yet but i started to do pinterest aswell, gives good ammount of traffic with small effort (conversion sucks! you have to target your offers like a laser!), it's good thing to start now as men are getting on-a-board with pinterest so we have wider audience for our "spamming" in future.
Earnings via pinterest so far: ~$1.4
Would be alot better if i had better ad placement on my site tough.

I want questions and some conversation in here! so please, let's talk about current events or about SEO techniques

Oh man i feel GREAT! Yesterday my second site stopped dancing right? well today as i came home via grocery... i found that my second site had already done 3 conversions! and my old site just 1!

So i have already today made well over $20 This is very exciting news to me, hopefully this will keep up for even a month so i can reinvest all that money back in SEO + CPA sites.
Maybe i can mark that $20/day milestone in a short period of time... + i have made 2nd most money in a month in this month already! best month was ~$750 i think? i'm going at ~$380 + ~150€
which is around $580 week to go and we will see if i can break my record!!!

So far looks like my summer is saved.

Nice job man

Just read this thread and hte one u mentioned in the first post. But I have a question. Can you just write every tool you have in a PM or here? I am in to buying a few tools soon I just don't know which ones. I want one for nich reserach and backlinks checker.

Nice journal man...a journal that actually have updates...haha
Keep up the good work! How much you've earned so far?

xstyle: go and get traffic travis for keyword tool, buy scrapebox and GSA search engine ranker for your backlinking, you can do wikis+forums+blogs+articles with GSA automaticaly

wke102: Cheers mate! i try to update whenever i can cause i hate journals that die in the middle! would hope more comments and feedback tough!
I think i have crossed $2500 i think, i dont keep track of my random earnings that much haha.

Small update! last month was good in a some time! but looks like my first money maker has sunk to 2-3 pages so it doesnt generate any revenue now... so i made a good decision! i bought cheap VPS and setup it to run GSA search engine ranker + captcha sniper It is generating backlinks for 3 of my sites at this time and stuff looks sexy!

After a week of running my VPS we should see something happen in my rankings, lets hope my rankings will kill so i can get back to my normal income (+$300/month).

Downloaded some C# videos for beginners and downloaded visual studio 2010 to code with, i'm hoping that i can code (started yesterday and i know how to do simple programs now) some tools myself later on so i'm not depended on other peoples products which doesnt get updated and fail in the end big time, instead i have program which i can update myself... selling it would be fun aswell later on to make fast buck

Great thread, I'm motivated to build similar sites now I hope everything is still going great for you and building up nicely. I've never heard of GSA Search Engine Ranker before... which is odd, since I've pretty much heard of all non-custom tools. How are you liking it since Penguin?

yeah great thread, mabey i'll start CPA+SEO too at the moment i'm using youtube+cpa and making 0.3-8$ a day always getting like 2 conversions and stable 2 conversions because nobody cares if they filling e-mail submit survey or pin submit survey

StreamlineWeb said:

Great thread, I'm motivated to build similar sites now I hope everything is still going great for you and building up nicely. I've never heard of GSA Search Engine Ranker before... which is odd, since I've pretty much heard of all non-custom tools. How are you liking it since Penguin?

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I'm happy that my thread is motivating! at the moment it's going shit because of the penguin, noticed that new sites are now way to go compared to before penguin sites, if you create site now you would do much better than with well aged domain with good informative content.

GSA is keeping my sites up but if i pause it, my sites starts to drop! so i cant afford to stop using it so my link velocity keeps up. but overall GSA IS THE BEST!

valentinas25 said:

yeah great thread, mabey i'll start CPA+SEO too at the moment i'm using youtube+cpa and making 0.3-8$ a day always getting like 2 conversions and stable 2 conversions because nobody cares if they filling e-mail submit survey or pin submit survey

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thanks! you should try to find a way how to get people on your site with social media aswell as with SEO so you dont drop dead like i did, now i'm playing around with pinterest to see how i could benefit from social traffic. Never tried youtube but it should be great for traffic tough!

Fuck all my sites SUNK!!! now i cant any of them, maybe i should drop SEO for now and concentrate on social media for now + fiverr to pay some of the expenses.
I'm bloody depressed haha Should i start from beginning?... backup all my written content and stop buying hosting and maybe later on get back with the content with new domain? dunno but i'm not that happy tough i have made all my money back which i have invested in IM.

This is the thing with relying on Google to rank and attract visitors. You're literally on a knife edge, though I'm trying to use Google too, it's just too unpredictable. Totally sucks that one company holds the ability to sink your earnings, just because that company decides that you aren't providing what they describe to be the optimal web experience for visitors. You'd think they owned the fucking internet.

Sorry for the language, but I've had a few drinks and I see this time and time again.

Sorry for your rankings drop.