CPA is SCAM!?

kallen said:

hahaha... If you are on Blackhat World and you are concerned that CPA might not be appropriate, then I think you may want to locate another forum....

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There's nothing wrong with having morals.

Blackhat doesn't mean scamming. This is not a scamming forum.

Blackhat is mostly to do with the method of promotion rather than the quality of an offer. You can do all the blackhat in the world to sell a good product and it's ethical and conversely you can stick with legit promotion to push a scam.

People shouldn't be prosecuted because they don't want to scam others. If that's the general attitude of everyone then the forum will become nothing less than a haven for scammers and criminals.

People should be commended for wanting to add value, not laughed at. All you people who are comfortable scamming people have nothing to feel proud of.

If you want to push these offers then fine, but don't attack people because they have morals.

dennisyu said:

yes, you are correct.

zip/email submits are basically scams.

but our job is just to send traffic to them.

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They're not scams. All the user gives up is their name/email. They're not getting scammed out of anything.

Why do you care if it's scam or not? You send some traffic, get some leads for submiting e-mail in form and you get paid. Here you are done. Do not care for that what they do after e-mail submit with users.

The most E-Mail submits are just Datacollects... but it's no Scam!

CPA is legit , its not a scam.

ThePayRoll said:

If morals are you go-to , get out of the IM-game your just wasting your time.

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There are plenty of "moral" things to promote. Promoting a free quote on X is still legitimate. Just because email submits are baiting and a waste of time doesn't mean every service provided on the internet is bogus.

As far as morals though, frankly as long you are not ripping people off I don't see the problem.

Mynarky said:

There are plenty of "moral" things to promote. Promoting a free quote on X is still legitimate. Just because email submits are baiting and a waste of time doesn't mean every service provided on the internet is bogus.

As far as morals though, frankly as long you are not ripping people off I don't see the problem.

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Yeah they really aren't losing anything other than time..

I think Scam is the wrong word for this, you don't Scam them money or stuff like that... you can also find much informations on the most Landinpages

hexalor said:

There's nothing wrong with having morals.

Blackhat doesn't mean scamming. This is not a scamming forum.

Blackhat is mostly to do with the method of promotion rather than the quality of an offer. You can do all the blackhat in the world to sell a good product and it's ethical and conversely you can stick with legit promotion to push a scam.

People shouldn't be prosecuted because they don't want to scam others. If that's the general attitude of everyone then the forum will become nothing less than a haven for scammers and criminals.

People should be commended for wanting to add value, not laughed at. All you people who are comfortable scamming people have nothing to feel proud of.

If you want to push these offers then fine, but don't attack people because they have morals.

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exactly I run a life insurance website, by that I mean its actually mine not a CPA offer, I promote it and help people at the same time by providing something of value. Yeah, I've done some grey things to get people's attention, but I do right by the customer and that's why I'm proud of my brand

everyone's got a different set of morals and most of the time they're arbitrary.
the set of morals the OP ended up with just happens to be incompatible with CPA marketing.
OP also likes to throw around the label Scam on anything they happen to dislike.
big whoop. who cares. nothing out of the ordinary here really.

Wtf man... what's a scam about a claim, phrased as following:

Get a free ipad!
fill in your name, email and zip to find out how to claim yours...

I will tell you:

No scam!

They are not telling you that you'll get it. They're just telling you that you could get it. Even though they say get a free ipad... the second line basically tells there IS a catch.

Nothing scammy about it. People should just learn to read.

Some trial offers aren't scam btw. For a long time I had a trial offer running for an old business of mine. And if people cancelled... fine. Enough people sticking anyway.

So don't say all trial offers are the same. Because they're not.

Anyway... yes... the actual purchase could be a scam. But there's nothing scammy about giving up your name and email to find out how you could, possibly, win a ipad. Just because people are greedy and not reading properly.

Same goes with some "work at home" type of stuff. The scam is usually that lies. But often the products aren't even bad. Just not what was promised.

Here's the thing:

Most products, when actually applied, are good. But in few cases the salestactics used to sell these products aren't good.

Also, when they don't lie... most people are too lazy to do something. So they end up complaining anyway. That's why I sincerely hate that market.

Anyway, mr Ray:

Read properly is the keyphrase here. Hardly any of those companies are lying about what they promise.

Good luck.

The ideas behind CPA are nothing new, and it's not a scam. People tend to use the term scam to to mean "not as good as advertised." In which case, every product advertised ever is a scam.

Money is the scam. The dollar bills in your pocket are printed by a private corporation owned by other member bank private corporations backed partially by the feds assets but primarily by the power of congress to lay tax on the people (not gold). further more since the 1913 federal reserve act our country now "borrows" our money from the fed (private corporation) PLUS INTEREST.

So... how do you ever pay off a countries debt if all we have to pay it off with is more interest bearing dollars? ... you cant, its impossible. The whole system is fucked, it's not real, it's designed to create modern day slaves. We play the game for freedom. You can be the wheel barrel or the thimble

CPA is kinda scammy depending on the offer, but it's more legit than other methods of earning. As far as trying to preview your offers before you run them (for non-US), use a proxy or VPN

For those that are outside US and want to see CPA LP, simply use hxxp://fetch4.me/

Cheers!

SCAM is a strong word... and people use it broadly.

If you are saying that these people do not get the Ipad for free...
well.... I suppose there is nothing for free in this world now a days.
If you look at most offers..... it stated "participation required" and if you
read all the fine print.... you will know exactly what you are getting into.
Because of that... you cannot call it a scam.
Tmobile and ATT and other large mobile companies have UNLIMITED plans...
but if you read the small print.. they are actually not true unlimited...so are they a scam too...... of course not.
so coming back to the email submit.... if you buy every offer they propose to you...and you sign up for everything they ask you to.... they will give you the ipad.... of course you will have spent just as much as if you just purchased it.

let me give you another example..I am selling a boat for $5000
and now I up the price to $5600 but give you a FREE IPAD...
am i scamming you?? no.. of course not.. but the ipad was not really
free in the grand scale of things....

But that is just one type of CPA...
I push the dating..... now.. that is considered by some as CPA.
I don't think the person signing up got scammed in any way or form.
They paid for a membership in which they got full benefits for their money.

Now... if you really think by putting your email into a box...you would get an ipad in the next week or so.... then I have a couple of bridges I can sell you... and i'll throw in an ipad (no email needed) when we close the deal.....