Counter Sue on Stealth Account?

Hi,

As many of you VERO sellers know, eBay gives you an option to file a counter sue against the VERO party that got your listing taken down. Then eBay gives that party 10 business days to comeback with a response. If they do come back with a response, they are effectively suing you and you 'must' appear in court.

The court thing is bs as no judge is going to extradite you based on a civil matter (innocent until proven guilty). However, I still would not do it as the company will be all over you until they are satisfied you are not selling their goods anywhere on the internet.

What if you file this notice under a stealth account? How could they ever find out who you really are? Has anyone counter sued and won in general (no response etc?)

Thank you everyone!

EOC91 said:

Hi,

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Several things wrong here...

EOC91 said:

As many of you VERO sellers know, eBay gives you an option to file a counter sue against the VERO party that got your listing taken down. Then eBay gives that party 10 business days to comeback with a response.

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This is an administrative thing by eBay, not legal

EOC91 said:

If they do come back with a response, they are effectively suing you and you 'must' appear in court.

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There is no such thing as "effectively" suing you. They either sue you legally or they don't.

EOC91 said:

The court thing is bs as no judge is going to extradite you based on a civil matter (innocent until proven guilty).

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1. The standard to appear in a civil court is actually lower in civil than criminal courts, since there is no right to not self incriminate yourself in a civil court.

2. Innocent until proven guilty only works in criminal courts, as civil courts work on preponderance of evidence.

EOC91 said:

However, I still would not do it as the company will be all over you until they are satisfied you are not selling their goods anywhere on the internet.

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Not anywhere on internet, just on eBay. You agreed to abide by VERO when you signed up on eBay, not anywhere else.

EOC91 said:

What if you file this notice under a stealth account? How could they ever find out who you really are? Has anyone counter sued and won in general (no response etc?)

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Someone who doesn't exist has no right to sue.

Thank you for your informative response.

toml3030 said:

Several things wrong here...



This is an administrative thing by eBay, not legal



There is no such thing as "effectively" suing you. They either sue you legally or they don't.



1. The standard to appear in a civil court is actually lower in civil than criminal courts, since there is no right to not self incriminate yourself in a civil court.

2. Innocent until proven guilty only works in criminal courts, as civil courts work on preponderance of evidence.



Not anywhere on internet, just on eBay. You agreed to abide by VERO when you signed up on eBay, not anywhere else.



Someone who doesn't exist has no right to sue.

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there is no such thing as a true "stealth"
if someone really wants to get to the bottom of this and know who is selling counterfeits, they certainly can.