elitemarketer
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- Dec 20, 2009
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If you only need $15 to $20 a day as you say, all you really need to do is some quick incentive CPA.
Continue this or quit?
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All those rip of products are nothing short of scam.If those people were making money like that,they are not going to teach us how they did it.Simply blabbering,saying all basic stuffs like teaching what is a clickbank and what is wordpress.
Piece of shit they are all and for teaching things which we need they dont even mention.They run away.There are lots of mother fucking gurus out there who are good for nothing.Now the lesson,only way you are going to make money online is to teach others and scam others on how to make money online and suck their blood.You know what there are millions of frustrated people like me and you who can be easily scammed into buying their product.In one short word-make money online by scamming others on how to make money online after releasing a product and then you can be a successful scamster
Piece of shit they are all and for teaching things which we need they dont even mention.They run away.There are lots of mother fucking gurus out there who are good for nothing.Now the lesson,only way you are going to make money online is to teach others and scam others on how to make money online and suck their blood.You know what there are millions of frustrated people like me and you who can be easily scammed into buying their product.In one short word-make money online by scamming others on how to make money online after releasing a product and then you can be a successful scamster
Risky Business
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- Apr 5, 2010
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Where do they go to?
MarketerX
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- Mar 7, 2010
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Why do people fail?
The main reason why people can't make money is not because the methods are outdated or rehashed etc. The reason is, most people are not aware of the principles of marketing. If you're lacking of that knowledge, no matter how hard you try or no matter how many methods you apply, you'll most likely fail because you're not putting your own twist to it.
What do i mean by twist? Every single product or service no matter what it is whether a software or a cpa offer, needs to be marketed properly so that people can be convinced that "they really need it". This is it, pretty much dead simple. You have to come up with something that it will help convincing people. Now, if you need their dedication (i'll get back to this in a bit) then things will get harder for your promotional efforts because your conversion rate will be very low.
Commitment aka Dedication
So what do i mean by dedication? This is the base of any relationship between two people. The more positive interaction occurs, the deeper will the dedication be. I know it sounds complicated so let me give you an example with chicks : When you first meet with a girl, you keep wondering what you can and can't do with her. You will wonder what you can get away with, what you can't. The more time you spend together, the more tolerance she will have as long as your interaction with her is positive. In other words, if she likes you she'll put up with your shit. When time passes, you will have shared and been through a lot of shit, so you will have more value in each other's eyes. It will be harder for both you and her to detach from each other because of the memories and experiences you have together. We can re word dedication as commitment also.
This is all the same in marketing. When people advice you to build a list, the main reason behind this is, you will have a chance to communicate and build memories with them. Now you don't hold hands together of course, but every interaction counts and creates a memory in our subconscious. The more they commit, the better it is. Starting from signing up to your opt in list to filling out cpa offers for you or buying the ebook you recommend.
Of course you can't build this relationship instantly, so you have to give something back to get more. Just like friendships or relationships. You do something she wants, in return she does something you want. To get them to opt in, you give them a free book. To make them buy stuff, you give them what they want. Maybe good free content or a tutorial about something, etc. The more you give, the more you get in return. You can't keep asking (in other words keep spamming with offers without providing the content they want) or they will leave you. You can't keep giving without a return etc. This only works both ways. In marketing, relationships etc.
How to Market anything?
Now let's go back to dedication a bit. Let me ask you a question: "Would you hand over your car keys to a stranger on the street?" I don't think so. "Would you hand over the keys to your roommate?" Probably. Why? Because you have a history together so you know him, so you "trust" him. This is exactly the same in marketing. It will be hard for a total stranger to fill out a 3 page cpa offer for you. Why? Because you are a stranger for him. But if he would know you, then maybe he would. That's why email/zip submits convert better (well, except shaving) because the commitment required is "minimum". He doesn't have to know you much. And he doesn't have to spend much time to do it.
Why ewhoring is very hard now? Because people don't trust easily as they used to before. So you need more communication, more back and forth messaging to re establish and gain that trust. For most, it's too much work now. No more one liners. So they quit. To be successfully promote any offer or a service, you need to put yourself in their shoes and think like them. Think about the product. How you can market it. If you would come across, would you be interested? Why not? If what would be different, you would be interested? Ask these questions to yourself. Brainstorm. Try and fail. Assume yourself as the marketing manager of that cpa offer's company. You are in your office, sitting on your chair. How would you market it? When you do this and brainstorm, sooner or later you'll come up with many ideas. And some of those ideas will work, some won't. But you can't know if you don't try.
Conclusion
My advice to people who are not making any money online. Before reading ebooks and methods, read a marketing book. Marketing 101 and marketing for dummies are good ones. If you don't know what marketing is and what it is about, then you have zero chance in internet marketing. Not one single method will help you, even if it's a copy paste method. Because you will do something wrong and you will fail. You can get lucky and make a few dollars here and there but it will never be enough to quit your day job.
This is the same for your life. If you constantly go out 100 nights in a row, and talk with 20 chicks each time, you will get laid, eventually. Your looks or your voice doesn't matter. You'll run into a chick so drunk or so high and you will get laid. But this won't make you a casanova. You know what i mean?
So the key is not what you're doing. It's how you are doing it. Don't quit my friend. Work hard, try and fail and try again. You'll see that one day everything will be different for youGood luck!
Great post. If I couldi'd hit the "thanks" button a few more times...
Also my first 8 months were also a complete failure...but actually not COMPLETE because it taught me how NOT to work
Also a big step upfor me was when I got serious about using automated programs ect...so if you aren't using many of those you should start building a collection of working bots, learn how to use an article spinner and use it to its maximum potential, and buy some proxies Creativity + Good Niche + Good CPA Offer + Good Software. The first one is the big hurdle for most...
These are the things that helped me start earning.
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take a look this video :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4uG2kSdd-4
this video is really giving motivated for us (especially for me), for not surrender in any of conditions, like nick said if you fail then you can still trying to get up, if you fail again, you can start to trying to get up again. i know its hard, but if person like nick want to get up and still trying to get what he wants, why we do not want to grab our want?
so, if you ask yourself, maybe in your heart you hear a sound that said you don't want to quit, stop, or anything named, but you just fear to continue your daily activities. my advice is just trying again, again, again and over again.
i am really sure, if we say focus for what we believing and what we want, then there is a guidance and there is a way that will help us to face it, and we can still continue to reach our goals.
so my friend, if you feel tired, just take a rest for a while, forget a while about internet, computer, mouse, lcd or monitor, and enjoy what you want, but don't get to long, because you need more practice and more learning to make some cash on internet like other people.
take some vacations, go with some chick, get drink or anything else you want to get some power and energy to get back again, to reach what you're goal, to reach your dreams, to fulfill what you want. because we live on this earth must fight, especially with ourself.
and you can learn from many people like nick, when he fall in a way, he don't give up, but he trying to get up many times, just to show to us that he never surrender.
stay focus in your mind, and there are a ways for you. GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4uG2kSdd-4
this video is really giving motivated for us (especially for me), for not surrender in any of conditions, like nick said if you fail then you can still trying to get up, if you fail again, you can start to trying to get up again. i know its hard, but if person like nick want to get up and still trying to get what he wants, why we do not want to grab our want?
so, if you ask yourself, maybe in your heart you hear a sound that said you don't want to quit, stop, or anything named, but you just fear to continue your daily activities. my advice is just trying again, again, again and over again.
i am really sure, if we say focus for what we believing and what we want, then there is a guidance and there is a way that will help us to face it, and we can still continue to reach our goals.
so my friend, if you feel tired, just take a rest for a while, forget a while about internet, computer, mouse, lcd or monitor, and enjoy what you want, but don't get to long, because you need more practice and more learning to make some cash on internet like other people.
take some vacations, go with some chick, get drink or anything else you want to get some power and energy to get back again, to reach what you're goal, to reach your dreams, to fulfill what you want. because we live on this earth must fight, especially with ourself.
and you can learn from many people like nick, when he fall in a way, he don't give up, but he trying to get up many times, just to show to us that he never surrender.
stay focus in your mind, and there are a ways for you. GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
rap8557
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- Sep 15, 2008
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Ok since you're good in 3D max, try to make a 3D model of celebrities or make a cartoon out of it like the celebrity deathmatch. then upload the teaser/trailer with your URL watermarked on it to youtube, or facebook or anything you can think of to get visitors.
I'm sorry to put it like this, but if you want to quit, then quit. Nobody is going to make money for you. You have to go out and do it yourself.
There is no magic bullet system (althought some courses are call such) where you open up a program, press "go" and then see $1,000 in your bank account an hour later. Stop expecting easy results or good results on the first, second, or third go.
If you want to make money online, then go test that method that made you $30 again until you make another $30. That is step 1.
There is no magic bullet system (althought some courses are call such) where you open up a program, press "go" and then see $1,000 in your bank account an hour later. Stop expecting easy results or good results on the first, second, or third go.
If you want to make money online, then go test that method that made you $30 again until you make another $30. That is step 1.
Jr VIP and Donor,but still no income from the past 20months?Also I tried promoting various movie sites,but its not giving me atleast 1 lead.
0$ is not looking pretty at all.I am now starting to believe that CPA content locker mechanism just dont work.I am going outside to start looking for some part time jobs is some Junk Hotels as a Dish washer if nothing works out
0$ is not looking pretty at all.I am now starting to believe that CPA content locker mechanism just dont work.I am going outside to start looking for some part time jobs is some Junk Hotels as a Dish washer if nothing works out
- Mar 12, 2008
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Guys,
It took me 2 years to see my first clickbank check, Frustrated, even cried few times on my self. But never quit. It's simply not an option.
Build your list, feel the importance to it. be the member of different forums. Prove your self authority. Release your products in forums and then clickbank.
That's what i learned in 2 years.
Thanks.
It took me 2 years to see my first clickbank check, Frustrated, even cried few times on my self. But never quit. It's simply not an option.
Build your list, feel the importance to it. be the member of different forums. Prove your self authority. Release your products in forums and then clickbank.
That's what i learned in 2 years.
Thanks.
Ramsweb
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- Mar 31, 2010
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A guy who was dirt poor once and now a millionaire once said ....
"IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN YOURSELF, WHY SHOULD ANYONE BELIEVE IN YOU?"
Think about that mate. You sound so depressed in your thread. Not making money for 8 months is not the end of the world. Pick yourself and go forward. I know this is all general advice but it the fact is that general advice is applicable in most cases.
The only individual advice that I could give you is - do not focus on so many things. Your strength is 3d designing. Have you heard of Elance.com - Go there and see if you can find some work. You can even advertise here if you meet certain requirements. Once you make a little bit of money, try to scale up and never give up until you do.
"IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN YOURSELF, WHY SHOULD ANYONE BELIEVE IN YOU?"
Think about that mate. You sound so depressed in your thread. Not making money for 8 months is not the end of the world. Pick yourself and go forward. I know this is all general advice but it the fact is that general advice is applicable in most cases.
The only individual advice that I could give you is - do not focus on so many things. Your strength is 3d designing. Have you heard of Elance.com - Go there and see if you can find some work. You can even advertise here if you meet certain requirements. Once you make a little bit of money, try to scale up and never give up until you do.
- Mar 12, 2008
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You took it wrong.
I am talking about releasing products like TwitAttack, FBadder (as in BST) which actually help people to do some 'x' things. NOt releasing some shitty ebook with rehash stuff.
Always come up with your software idea and outsource it for development. It will take money but it worth every penny if your software helps in something.
kronow
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- Dec 21, 2009
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